My Middle Name Is Earl - The Official ILM Track-By-Track TOM PETTY Listening Thread

without the groove

I think that's just what happens when those respective acts 'Get Funky'...

cmon those shoes is a great break, beasties used to to good effect
i know it's not cool to like eagles and cool to like tom petty but that's just wrong

oh I like 'em both, I just think the Eagles heard this and that it was an influence

This has nothing to do with thinking the Eagles cool or uncool and everything to do with my not hearing a good grove in "These Shoes" (the Beasties found one).

found it? the loop is a clean drum/bass break right at the beginning of the song they sample pretty straight

those shoes is all joe walsh. the funky eagle. even if he didn't write it.

Restless is good, i love the groove in this

and yeah it reminds me a bit of Those Shoes too. Kinda that vibe or similar.

i like the way the groove builds up to the chorus & breaks like a wave
lots of songs do this obv but i always like when you can really feel it & anticipate it

i don't think i have a lot to say about this track. i like the drums at the beginning. but maybe i don't love it? for southern boys its not as heavy or as funky as lynyrd skynyrd obviously. i could hear 38 special or the rossington-collins band doing it. but in the end its not that memorable to me.

yeah, kinda “second-tier” southern lol

Groove and funkiness-wise, I maintain that the drummer could be doing a lot more for these songs, even though this is one of his more active efforts.

HIS NAME IS STAN LYNCH

this might sound mean but i think i'm gonna check for a live version with steve ferrone on drums...

some weekend listening for y'all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf_tCzCi864

he stagedives at that show. showing the future grungers how its done!

Baby's a Rock 'n' Roller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9s5eAG5ks0

It's Glam Petty! Nick Gilder's evil cousin.

nice! needs more footstompin'.

Glad to see that the running discography has reached this album--You're Gonna Get It! is my fave Heartbreakers album as a full-length listen fwiw, it always gets me pumped/makes me happy

What's the policy on B-sides? There's an original one for this album which is on YT. I don't think there are that many overall. Here's the tracklist for the B's disk from the box:

"Casa Dega" (B-side of "Don't Do Me Like That," issued November 1979) [Petty / Campbell] – 3:37
"Heartbreakers Beach Party" (B-side of "Change of Heart," February 1983) [Petty] – 1:57
"Trailer" (B-side of "Don't Come Around Here No More," March 1985) [Petty] – 3:15
"Cracking Up" (B-side of "Make It Better (Forget About Me)," May 1985) (Nick Lowe) – 3:34
"Psychotic Reaction" (Count Five garage rock cover live at Lawlor Events Center, Reno, NV, November 23, 1991; from the UK-only "Too Good to Be True" 1992 maxi CD single) (Kenn Ellner / Roy Chaney / Craig Atkinson / John Byrne / John Michalski) – 4:49
"I'm Tired Joey Boy" (live at Lawlor Events Center, Reno, NV, November 23, 1991; from the UK-only "Too Good to Be True" maxi CD single) (Van Morrison) – 3:42
"Lonely Weekends" (live at Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA, November 24, 1991; from the UK-only "Too Good to Be True" maxi CD single) (Charlie Rich) – 2:47
"Gator on the Lawn" (B-side of "A Woman in Love (It's Not Me)," July 1981) [Petty] – 1:35
"Make That Connection" (B-side of "Jammin' Me," April 18, 1987) [Petty / Campbell] – 5:04
"Down the Line" (B-side of "Free Fallin'", October 1989) [Petty / Lynne / Campbell] – 2:53
"Peace in L.A." (Peace Mix) (B-side of "Peace in L.A.," May 26, 1992) [Petty] – 4:43
"It's Rainin' Again" (B-side of "Refugee," January 1980) [Petty] – 1:32
"Somethin' Else" (live at Hammersmith Odeon, London, England, March 7, 1980; B-side of "Even the Losers" in Australia) (Sharon Sheeley / Eddie Cochran) – 2:05
"I Don't Know What to Say to You" (B-side of "Listen to Her Heart," August 30, 1978) [Petty] – 2:28
"King's Highway" (live at Stephen J O'Connell Center, University Of Florida, Gainesville, FL, November 4, 1993; B-side of the German-only "Something in the Air" as well as the UK-exclusive "Mary Jane's Last Dance" maxi CD single, March 1994) [Petty] – 3:30

So, eight stray originals (nine if you count the regular mix of "Peace In L.A." which was on another disk in the set).

"Trailer" is one of the Southern Accents outtakes that Petty regrets omitting.

the bass on here is very "jumpin jack flash"

i can do "i don't know what to say to you" tomorrow.

I'm dying to get to DTT.

also wondering if people wanted me to post "stop draggin' my heart around" later for fun but i don't have to. also, there is the Mudcrutch question. i wasn't going to do Wilburys but Mudcrutch is very much a Tom Petty joint. so, i will leave it up to you folks. there are two albums of 'Crutch.

there are some other odds/sods and i'll have to make a note of them somewhere. like, the live byrds track actually charted, right? so, there is that.

you know what, rules are made to be broken. i'll do the b-side now.

I think there is a current Petty best of collection that includes Mudcrutch.

i vote yes to "draggin" and travelin, no to muddin'

Yes to "Stop Draggin'"! It's his biggest hit .

I Don't Know What To Say To You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x49sFyOZFG4

well now i have to go add that to the Not Dylan thread...

well technically draggin' isn't HIS hit you know. and now one vote for wilburys! and no to mudcrutch. might have to take a vote.

The guitar crinkles are lovely. This defines "B-side."

basically I'm in for any ILX mention of Stevie Nicks.

lol yeah "I Don't Know What to Say to You" is like he saved up a drawer full of Dylanisms (lyrics and vocal affect) and then dumped them all here. Pretty good for what it is.

I remember where I was when I first heard "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around". Columbus, Ohio. 1981. In a car. We were staying with family friends. the little girl of the family was singing along to the song and everyone laughed. I hadn't heard it yet! The family friends were housesitting for their next door neighbors and their neighbors had "cable television" and they had JUST - that weekend - aired a new cable channel called...........................MTV. My brother and I never left that neighbor's house!

another Wilburys vote here, thanks but no thanks to Mudcrutch

and yes all the B-sides please

am i the only mudcrutch fan? i'm trying to justify wilburys because it was such a group thing with different singers, etc...

but i'll go with whatever. that is 21 wilburys tunes though....

though i have already excluded the two early mudcrutch singles. didn't figure they were canon really. we still could include them of course.

We don't have to cover every Wilbury tune? Maybe the ones with clear Tom Petty leads like "Last Night"?

yeah, that makes sense.

but mudcrutch is basically tp & the heartbreakers and one old guy nobody knows from florida, right? seems hard to ignore. wait, why don't you guys like that stuff? you think its boring? i like the guitars.

the wilbury situation is one we should handle with *porky pig stutter* delicacy

haha

I'm totally good with a selection of Petty-led Wilburys tunes

Definitely include "End of the Line," I think he sings all the verses on that right?

Yep!

Fun to hear "I Don't Know What To Say To You" in the middle of these arena/stripclub-ready rockers, a bit of Bob Wills.

"Baby's A Rock'n'Roller": Petty Doz Slade! Definitely not something I'll get to say again in this rundown. Another one of those stereotypical '70s moves found on these early albums.

"I Don't Know What To Say To You": A fun lil' '60s Dylan/Roger Miller pastiche. Would have been an interesting additional card in this album's pack, but maybe a left turn too far for the tracklist?

this thread should 100% include Mudcrutch…it's the band with TP on bass, Bernie Leadon's brother on 2nd guitar and anudder drummer… what could possibly be an argument to not include?