My Middle Name Is Earl - The Official ILM Track-By-Track TOM PETTY Listening Thread

yes the restraint and tension are perfectly balanced

"you've got a dangerous background," what a great opening line

this was the period when iirc Nicks was begging Petty to admit her as a Heartbreaker; astounded, he said she couldn't because "you're a girl."

Petty and Nicks never soloing or jumping over each other's lines

otm. they were so goddamn good together. their sensibilities blend so perfectly. loooooove this song. love that turn in the last verse: "i'll bet you're his masterpiece / i'll bet you're his self-control."

has a bit of Marshall Crenshaw sound on the chorus.

very otm re "thing about you."

"his quiet world of white and gold"!

wait, is that a dig at John Stewart???

Nothing to add to the "Insider" love except to otm it.

Nicks should've joined the Heartbreakers imo

but then we might not have gotten Tango In The Night!

You say that like it's a bad thing...

haha I was teasing Alfred

The real way to tease him is to have said Rock A Little or one of those other solo albums TP might not have let her make.

Mike Campbell co-wrote a Rock a Little track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeROwFYGgJI

The Criminal Kind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWjN4VVVxx4

Now the guy who took his gal is not only a mean mistreater but a criminal! Tom's got Trumpian levels of grievance going on. The song itself is OK? I like the Stones too?

sounds like a circa 2023 rolling stones album track.

High praise! Best Stones album in years! Back to basics! Just three guys and some session guys in a room!

this one is a little too long, but it's a fine "album track", some sweet guitar sounds

In The Wild: "I Won't Back Down" (coming after "Eternal Flame") in my motel lobby.

Makes sense. The Bangles will sing harmonies on one of his best-ever singles.

You Can Still Change Your Mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5XHrJ1A0WI

Gator On The Lawn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZABzLa2WRf4

Stevie Nicks and her longtime backup singer Sharon Celani on it too.

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Stop Draggin' My Heart Around

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5i7j0VhEHw

i think that does it for 1981.

https://i.discogs.com/ZKIAgpvxhxRkui5qfPYCoxKykNHt33vbcoa_iFRBwdo/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:577/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE4Nzg4/MTc5LTE2MjE0MDY1/NzYtNjk2Ny5qcGVn.jpeg

For those of you around at the time: did "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" hit as hard in 1981 as it seems? That was one of the most somnolent pop years of all time.

it was on the radio a ton and it was one of those birth of MTV moments too. they played that video long after 1981.

long after dark?

way longer.

and then it basically never went away for the rest of my life. and i always like hearing it.

i wonder if this poor woman ever got tired of tom's rationalizing why she didn't want him. i like how he's so consistent thematically yet he's transitioned topic to a different kind of music -- one that suits the radio (and maybe mike campbell) better. these songs sound nice.

the topic

Petty was alllll over MTV, that's what I remember. I don't think we even had MTV until the early '90s, maybe, but I know all those videos, even the ones before "Full Moon Fever."

Btw, my friend's sort of cover band is recreating an '80s themed prom, so I asked him what kind of stuff they would be playing, would they try to be authentic to a specific year or era, would it be kitschy or ironic or earnest, would hip stuff from the '80s mingle with square stuff? And he said all of the above, which he acknowledged might be strange. Because, for example, "Free Fallin'" is from the '80s, but it might sound odd juxtaposed with, say, "Hungry Like the Wolf." But if you look at the top 10 hits of 1981 specifically, it would probably fit right in!

He would have to play Kenny Rogers, Dan Fogelberg, Foreigner, the Stones, and Juice Newton.

Yeah, exactly. It would a weird-ass prom. Is that what was played at proms in 1981? That is the year of "Celebration," at least.

i definitely remember "celebration" at school dances back then. "centerfold" was huge too.

at my middle school Hi Infidelity was probably THE album of 1981. though it came out at the end of 1980. i actually borrowed a copy from someone because i wanted to know what all the fuss was about. i don't think i was very impressed.

"Celebration" and "Superfreak" and later in the year "Let's Groove" were among the few Black top tens that year.

I wish there were prom playlists available. Like, what was played at proms at majority white schools in 1981? At majority black schools? At majority Latino schools? How much musical crossover was there? Were they all played by live bands, cover or otherwise, or were there DJs? Whenever I watch movies or TV shows from the general era and there is a school dance, it always seems to be a live band playing.

I went to 1983 prom and iirc it was a DJ

did "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" hit as hard in 1981 as it seems?

Definitely stood out to me, and I was in peak top 40 mode right then, my sister and I listened to Casey Kasem every week so we heard it all.

haha, i think we all forgot about the last track on the album! its a good weeper too.

what the hell is that sound at the beginning of "You Can Still Change Your Mind"? some weird synthesizer?

"Gator On My Lawn" - can he get any more Florida?

i think i like "you can still change your mind" better than "stop draggin..." which is one of those little nothingballs that passes by on the radio almost demanding that you don't pay attention to it. there's that one insistant guitar synchopation on the chorus that's kind of nice.

I have no love for "Stop Draggin'" at all but it's a fun karaoke jam, where it belongs.

i love their vocals so much on draggin'. very no-big-deal cool attitude to both of them.

is "stop draggin" the only petty song to get a weird al parody?

A One Story Town

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s1lx39sTxA

https://i.discogs.com/43r1qrvmswoydXYYNaelr8BRcb1ddIPsK5ouVF3a74c/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:593/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTgyODI2/Ni0xMjkzNDAzNTA2/LmpwZWc.jpeg