musical theater about butts
https://www.udio.com/songs/dL1WzekLAXoJkLZf1kzHr2
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:32 (five months ago) link
omg that's a serious earworm xpost
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:33 (five months ago) link
it's now telling me it can't generate tracks with improper language after it's done so about 20 times
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:37 (five months ago) link
oh no wait, it made "Invalid request" and "I'm sorry, I cannot generate prompts with inappropriate language" the titles of the tracks lmao...it still let me do it
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:38 (five months ago) link
"shoegaze latin cumbia in spanish about transport" ... sounds pretty good.
https://www.udio.com/songs/fTa5MqeghAWo988DyUtEU4
― CarlosDP, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:57 (five months ago) link
Kinda sounds like Cerati
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:08 (five months ago) link
Enjoy this track by Red House Sausagemakers: https://www.udio.com/songs/cPXiUuVs1Q1aZ17EfYaEDm
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:26 (five months ago) link
https://www.udio.com/songs/7YC2BN8sSYtNd8ek7AWbxU
"Chicago house with diva vocals singing about vampire fellatio"
it fails on every part of that
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 21:00 (five months ago) link
okay this one is arguably about oral sex at leasthttps://www.udio.com/songs/7YC2BN8sSYtNd8ek7AWbxU
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 21:01 (five months ago) link
'a slow jam appropriate for my great-grandfather's funeral'
https://www.udio.com/songs/9T7qGkn6XjDyDdZcP7iKe3
Not sexy enough, sounds like an '80s sitcom theme
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 21:03 (five months ago) link
minimal electronic music suitable for inclusion on a Warp Records sampler from 1992
credit for the AI seeing 1992 and including some 14.4 modem sounds
https://www.udio.com/songs/ooQjqmTZJZ9Xp5dAVaCvd9
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 21:12 (five months ago) link
it seems to pick up more on official genre tags than modifiers. if you type a genre it'll give you pre-filled styles and separate them by commas, but when you type something like "80s cartoon featuring horns" it'll maybe pick up on teh horn part only.
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 21:34 (five months ago) link
it actually did pick up on merging jazz and metalcore a wee bit here
https://www.udio.com/songs/jucfCbm28zB7CuiHz1jbUb
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 21:44 (five months ago) link
trying to merge gangsta rap and death metal now
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 21:46 (five months ago) link
ok I don't think u know what death metal is: https://www.udio.com/songs/epkYfBPP9ys877hvM37iqC
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 21:52 (five months ago) link
used the same rap voice, the drums are at least pingy, but the riffs very much not DM: https://www.udio.com/songs/s8s2FjbGrLhCGiG9xCR5Xq
let's see if it'll mix gangsta rap and 70s progressive rock
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 21:53 (five months ago) link
actually this kinda works lmao: https://www.udio.com/songs/jQzALhAMqxeMbGbMQ47ver
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 21:54 (five months ago) link
soul song about being constipated: https://www.udio.com/songs/2kcJaApKEh4ZeAED9dZRdh
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 22:02 (five months ago) link
the diarrhea song to grindcore:
https://www.udio.com/songs/3KdDK1tubATe5EHQ4Ho2nn
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 22:18 (five months ago) link
joy division song about dating appshttps://www.udio.com/songs/hjVLnKwZ41BSL257byYVFR
― adam t. (abanana), Thursday, 18 April 2024 05:49 (five months ago) link
Motown version of the skibidi toilet song
https://www.udio.com/songs/uTEPiTCCGb69YhRozG47Pw
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 18 April 2024 08:07 (five months ago) link
Yes, this needed to exist.
https://www.udio.com/songs/hFtsYrU8RckreScNN28Y9o
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 18 April 2024 09:49 (five months ago) link
a music lawyer friend of mine informs me that this site is "illegal", just noting that here, I asked for more details
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:55 (five months ago) link
ah here:
"Trained on copyrighted materials without permission, attribution, or payment."
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:56 (five months ago) link
there's also this
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/udio-ai-music-chatgpt-suno-1235001675/
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:01 (five months ago) link
So, like every other AI?
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:01 (five months ago) link
meh, paywalled....
try this - https://web.archive.org/web/20240416155532/https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/udio-ai-music-chatgpt-suno-1235001675/
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:04 (five months ago) link
(it doesn't seem like the legality of being trained on copyrighted material is actual settled law yet, but will be soon)
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:05 (five months ago) link
I’m sure they’ll win the battle against a technology they don’t quite understand this time.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:40 (five months ago) link
the tech is pretty simple aiui (although resource-intensive), it's a plagiarism machine that scrapes the internet for data
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:49 (five months ago) link
Sure that’s how ai works but given a large pool of data that spits out things that faintly resemble something but it’s something new how can you argue plagiarism?
AI is analyzing thousands of songs from every genre and learning what are the main aesthetics of each one. If AI takes 1000 country songs from different artists to learn about it and do something that doesn’t sound exactly like the source should those 1000 country artists get a paycut?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:07 (five months ago) link
according to the lawyers I know, the answer is "yes"
also I don't think it's "something new" by any remote stretch of the imagination, more like a very clever mashup
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:08 (five months ago) link
I figure most human songwriters have learned their craft through studying copyrighted material
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:17 (five months ago) link
not the same, come the fuck on
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:18 (five months ago) link
gotta unbookmark this, y'all are fucking credulous
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:19 (five months ago) link
this is something to play around with for a few daysit's not going to replace musicwho gives a fuck about its legality
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:26 (five months ago) link
I think not this specifically, but something technically comparable could replace sampling similar to how Dr. Dre re-recorded samples (apparently to avoid paying more for them -- though don't you still have to pay for covering sample-length snippets?)
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:59 (five months ago) link
Thought the unspoken rule of the thread was that this is stupid and evil and probably illegal, but let's have a laugh with it anyway.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:02 (five months ago) link
Yeah at this point is more of a novelty tbh, the legal aspect of it should be studied for when it inevitably gets improved but I suppose the better it gets the harder it will be to actually trace what the source is.
I don’t think it will change real music considerably. It will likely be used as a tool for inspiration or as samples and will be a battle uphill.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:20 (five months ago) link
There are a lot of venues where the people paying kind of don't want "real" music, but rather Muzak (supermarkets, waiting rooms, soundtracks, etc...) and to the extent that this continues the shrinking of music-related side gigs, maybe Jimmy Fallon replacing The Roots with a laptop will mark the turning point, though I guess the question is who loses their job first, Questlove or Jimmy?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:33 (five months ago) link
who wrote about the relation between scarcity and pleasure? Like, once these things can churn out 100 insanely good albums by (favorite artist of your choice), will that just fuck everything up like explaining a joke?
― brimstead, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:36 (five months ago) link
What it will do (depending on how it is monetized) is completely decimate the library music business, before long.
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:42 (five months ago) link
i mean, everyone is going to think it's no big deal until it comes for their particular gig
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:45 (five months ago) link
Probably wasn't a good idea for most of the music industry to pump out stuff that already sounds like it was made by A.I.
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:12 (five months ago) link
That’s a dick response
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:14 (five months ago) link
thanks
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:17 (five months ago) link
Thought the unspoken rule of the thread was that this is stupid and evil and probably illegal, but let's have a laugh with it anyway.― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length)
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length)
yeah i'm kinda surprised that there's any debate about this, tbh, the art spaces i come with it's been established in detail why ai art trained on copyrighted art is bad and should be illegal. someone can probably link to a video or an essay or something explaining it in depth, i don't know one offhand.
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:31 (five months ago) link
Well I hope this one will make everyone happy
https://www.udio.com/songs/eNuQmiCLyYBUMkPqdKgJiQ
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 18 April 2024 20:25 (five months ago) link
I agree those are the worst lawyers
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 19 April 2024 01:01 (five months ago) link
Yes, this seems like a victimless crime.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 7 September 2024 11:53 (two weeks ago) link
It's leeching on legit musicians: 'Spotify invests heavily in detecting, preventing, and removing the royalty impact of artificial streaming. Still, bad actors continue to attempt to steal money from the royalty pool that should be delivered to honest, hardworking artists.'
https://artists.spotify.com/en/blog/modernizing-our-royalty-system
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Saturday, 7 September 2024 21:03 (two weeks ago) link
What about lazy musicians?
― There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Sunday, 8 September 2024 01:58 (two weeks ago) link
Well, now that this arch criminal has been apprehended I expect my Spotify, et al. payments to increase. I will report back.
― bbq, Sunday, 8 September 2024 08:09 (two weeks ago) link
*puts on little snob bib* on some level, the victim is Art
― imago, Sunday, 8 September 2024 08:29 (two weeks ago) link
Garfunkel
― Mark G, Sunday, 8 September 2024 22:50 (two weeks ago) link