Let us go then, you and I/When the evening is spread out against the sky/Like a tight end playing in the Super Bowl -- The Tortured Poets Department, Taylor Swift, April 19

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how did she have time for this

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 06:08 (seven months ago) link

uh there are so many sexy songs about matty healy on this album that i don’t think “smallest man” is about him but whatever i don’t really want to know

ivy., Friday, 19 April 2024 06:09 (seven months ago) link

there's a few references on it that make me think it's very much about healy

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 06:12 (seven months ago) link

yeah i’m rethinking my assumptions. regardless i will defend to the death taylor swift’s right to lust after a disaster of a man and bury his freshly dead body on the same album

ivy., Friday, 19 April 2024 06:16 (seven months ago) link

We’ve all been there.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 April 2024 06:18 (seven months ago) link

i was right that "the black dog" was too good to be a bonus track!

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 06:18 (seven months ago) link

One distinguishing feature of this album compared to Midnights is that the songs tend to be filled with more internal variation - e.g. the way that "Who's Afraid of Little Old Me?" speeds up and slows down. Or the general sense during "I Can Fix Him" of "I don't know where this is going".

The songs on Midnights tended to feel kind of... dogged? Very trapped within a single thought? Which worked really well I felt on "You're On Your Own, Kid" especially where the vibe becomes self-conscious, but otherwise (esp. due to lack of bridges generally) could make the songs feel more claustrophobic than a lot of her other work.

These songs feel a lot roomier generally.

Tim F, Friday, 19 April 2024 06:22 (seven months ago) link

Anyway I approve of her just going ahead and releasing her own Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, all two hours of it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 April 2024 06:24 (seven months ago) link

second disc turns into folklore pt. 3 pretty quickly

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 06:31 (seven months ago) link

so far i’m only obsessed with “so high school”

ivy., Friday, 19 April 2024 06:31 (seven months ago) link

i’m not going to be able to stay awake through all these bonus tracks but general impression is she picked the right songs for the album

ivy., Friday, 19 April 2024 06:38 (seven months ago) link

i'm so depressed i act like it's my birthday!!!
every day!!!

i'm so obsessed with him but he avoids me!!!
like the plague!!!

― ivy., Friday, 19 April 2024 04:03 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

massive lol at this bit

Tim F, Friday, 19 April 2024 06:40 (seven months ago) link

first disc is mostly synthpop with antonoff, second disc is mostly folk songs with dessner

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 06:44 (seven months ago) link

“second disc” ennobles what really sounds like a bunch of cast-offs to me. sadly a completely dessner-led swift album would kinda bore me, turns out!!!

ivy., Friday, 19 April 2024 06:48 (seven months ago) link

it doesn't live up to folklore yeah and the highlights so far are the ones where she isn't really working in that mode or reaching beyond it - "the black dog", "so high school", "thank you aimee"

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 06:50 (seven months ago) link

"I'm not trying to exaggerate but I think I might die if it happened to me"

Tim F, Friday, 19 April 2024 06:51 (seven months ago) link

"the prophecy" is alright too but the second disc is not great. it's very much a separate thing though

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 07:15 (seven months ago) link

i really hate to be the one to say this, but isn't hats like matty healy's favourite album, so any reference lyrically or musically to it is some sort of guarded tribute to his taste, even if he cops it bad

imago, Friday, 19 April 2024 07:55 (seven months ago) link

yeah that feels pretty deliberate to me

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 08:36 (seven months ago) link

I thought Midnights was ok, just a major letdown after Folklore/Evermore/the ten minute All Too Well. But this is Be Here Now levels of over the top badness. Two hours of plodding rhythms and boring synths, every now and then livened up by a funny line/rhyme or a 'oh I wonder who that is about' reference. A few good songs, but they drown in the sameness.

Frederik B, Friday, 19 April 2024 09:04 (seven months ago) link

the best songs on here are way better than anything on midnights

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 09:09 (seven months ago) link

Probably true, but even the longest version of Midnights was 40 minutes shorter.

Frederik B, Friday, 19 April 2024 09:14 (seven months ago) link

i recommend just ignoring the second disc which is largely a significant step down in quality

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 09:17 (seven months ago) link

Starting this now—
I think they put a LDR song upfront by mistake

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Friday, 19 April 2024 10:52 (seven months ago) link

You smokеd, then ate seven bars of chocolate
We declared Charlie Puth should be a bigger artist

ILM in a nutshell

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 April 2024 11:40 (seven months ago) link

Lots of Puth heads here?

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Friday, 19 April 2024 11:49 (seven months ago) link

I thought Midnights was ok, just a major letdown after Folklore/Evermore/the ten minute All Too Well. But this is Be Here Now levels of over the top badness. Two hours of plodding rhythms and boring synths, every now and then livened up by a funny line/rhyme or a 'oh I wonder who that is about' reference. A few good songs, but they drown in the sameness.

― Frederik B, Friday, April 19, 2024 5:04 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

kindof agree w this, tho i like midnights more than ok & not a giant fan or folklore/evermore

johnny crunch, Friday, 19 April 2024 12:08 (seven months ago) link

Uh “Florida!” Is terrible

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Friday, 19 April 2024 12:13 (seven months ago) link

But “Daddy I Love Him” is great

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Friday, 19 April 2024 12:13 (seven months ago) link

Uh “Florida!” Is terrible

― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes),

I like the line about Destin, a shit spring break town; but I'm proud to say our version was better.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 April 2024 12:16 (seven months ago) link

i'd take taylor over patti smith. as a songwriter. easily. but she is nice to be nice to her elders.

scott seward, Friday, 19 April 2024 12:37 (seven months ago) link

"I like the line about Destin, a shit spring break town"

my god i love Destin, but yes, good description

Heez, Friday, 19 April 2024 12:55 (seven months ago) link

i think this is my favorite taylor swift record and i will get mad if ppl treat the “anthology” version as the real album

ivy., Friday, 19 April 2024 13:06 (seven months ago) link

Wow, ivy. After two listens to the original album the incessant midtempo-ness of the thing is tiring me.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 April 2024 13:09 (seven months ago) link

i'm just treating the second half as a separate album that is just a frustratingly underwhelming folklore retread

but i love that burst at the end of the chorus in "the black dog"

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 13:09 (seven months ago) link

I want something to POP. "But Daddy I Love Him" is a moment, I guess.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 April 2024 13:10 (seven months ago) link

my biggest problem with the regular album is that it doesn't spent more time in gorgeous synth ballad blue nile tribute mode

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 13:11 (seven months ago) link

the regular album is definitely my favourite - there's no real duds, it has some of her very best songs on it, the production generally works. it could still use an editor as it doesn't need to be an hour but eh that's nothing compared to the sort of issues most of her albums have

no idea why "fortnight" is the single though. it's good but it's hard to see it being much of a hit, it's rather sleepy

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 13:16 (seven months ago) link

Wow, ivy

what, is this not the real midnights? a full album of insomnia-driven spirals about people you’ve lost and still long for or wish you would’ve told the truth to when you were still talking? i guess “florida!!!” is the only “fast” track but i appreciate the sleepy amniotic shuffle, a body turning over in bed again and again. the melodies are gorgeous and i think there’s a ton of internal variation in its half-asleep whispers too… is “guilty as sin?” not her sexiest song? is “but daddy i love him” not like a giant wedding cake of songwriting? is “i can do it with a broken heart” not actually completely manic and simultaneously in denial of and in acceptance of it? i feel like everyone is tired and has cloth in their ears which i understand, taylor swift is exhausting, i guess she was due for significant blowback from a bunch of ppl who form their opinions on someone’s work based on how tired they are, but the moment i heard this i noticed how it moved and shifted in a way none of her previous pop albums have. it is not REALLY my favorite swift album because i am way too sentimental about red and evermore but its 16 tracks long and the songs are full of gorgeous melodies and impossibly none of them are embarrassing. a triumph, imo

ivy., Friday, 19 April 2024 13:20 (seven months ago) link

The second disc is much better imo

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Friday, 19 April 2024 13:24 (seven months ago) link

im sorry that post really reads like i didn’t get enough sleep

ivy., Friday, 19 April 2024 13:25 (seven months ago) link

i feel like everyone is tired and has cloth in their ears which i understand, taylor swift is exhausting, i guess she was due for significant blowback from a bunch of ppl who form their opinions on someone’s work based on how tired they are

OK this is not me.

And it IS the real Midnights.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 April 2024 13:26 (seven months ago) link

i like this. wait where does the regular album end the YT i am listening to has 31 tracks. i like daddy and florida and who's afraid and tortured poets. those are the best.

scott seward, Friday, 19 April 2024 13:28 (seven months ago) link

first 16 are the regular album, 17-31 are "the anthology"

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 13:28 (seven months ago) link

The bass drop in "Who's Afraid of Little Old Me" made me lol in a good way.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 April 2024 13:29 (seven months ago) link

she could make the best punk rock album with a punk rock band. she's so good at pissed.

scott seward, Friday, 19 April 2024 13:29 (seven months ago) link

The ones she wrote herself are the punkiest!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 April 2024 13:30 (seven months ago) link

okay so it ends with "clara bow". got it. haven't gotten there yet.

scott seward, Friday, 19 April 2024 13:30 (seven months ago) link

i do really hate that she released EVERY SONG from these sessions to goose streaming numbers. i have a headache

ivy., Friday, 19 April 2024 13:32 (seven months ago) link

Well at least fans don’t have to track down four versions of the CD to hear the bonus tracks

rendered nugatory (morrisp), Friday, 19 April 2024 13:35 (seven months ago) link


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