to be fair, this would have been a lot of nameless power pop bands' best song by far.
― scott seward, Thursday, 25 April 2024 11:59 (one year ago)
GREAT song, love it so much. “I’ve stood in your gallery/ Seen what’s hanging from the wall.”
The singing doesn’t bother me but as noted above this is my default/baseline Petty album so I just accepted it as the way he was supposed to sound.
The bridge is perfunctory, would be my only note. Other than that, grade A work fellas.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:31 (one year ago)
Change of Heart - haven’t heard this in ages. Great tune, I like Petty in power pop riff mode
― that's not my post, Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:45 (one year ago)
Speaking of underlicks, how about that pretty little Campbell filigree on the intro around the 10-second mark?
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 25 April 2024 19:21 (one year ago)
Finding Out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IljIy5lP0R4
― scott seward, Friday, 26 April 2024 11:26 (one year ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cwgzXXwTyo
this one works for me. the tempo, and all those slashing non-gendered guitar chords. (i just made that up. campbell loves omitting the 3rd of the chord, leaving you guessing whether it's major or minor.) the third part toward the end, which switched over to major, stands out for that reason. one cavil: shouldn't "looking over something" be "overlooking something"?
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 26 April 2024 11:45 (one year ago)
Change of Heart: wow - no memory of this. Really convincing early 80s power-pop, as others have noted. This definitely feels like it should have become a bigger hit and radio recurrent. The particular details in the mix make me think that Semisonic could have done well with this - or maybe I'm just casting about for a different lead singer. Hate to say it, but I'm not loving Tommy here. "CHAYYYYYYYYYYIIIINNNNGE" more like "cringe." I could see it growing on me, but the Adam Sandler baby voice on the bridge is gonna be tough to get past.
Very glad to confirm that he is not in fact intoning "I've stood in your cavity, to see what's raining from the walls!"
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 April 2024 11:55 (one year ago)
Finding Out: oh fascinating --- all of a sudden the blueprint for "Runnin' Down a Dream" comes into focus. Uptempo, urgent. Has any drummer ever grown by as big of leaps as Stan Lynch between the first couple albums and these last few? This has so much forward momentum, I love it.
Also a classic Petty lyrical position - somehow, finding a honey who takes him out of his river of hardcore loneliness becomes, primarily, an occasion for mulling back over the bad times. He doesn't *sound* like he's been rescued in the slightest!
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 April 2024 12:00 (one year ago)
iirc Petty singled out Lynch for particular praise on "Finding Out"
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 April 2024 12:10 (one year ago)
"Finding Out" is a jam, great side closer.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 26 April 2024 12:28 (one year ago)
"change of heart" continues to prove that petty was the greatest to ever write songs about people being around or not around
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 April 2024 14:02 (one year ago)
"finding out" is a banger
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 April 2024 14:07 (one year ago)
i put that live clip up because i felt like you could hear how another producer might have made that song sound on an album. its heavier live. more rock. don't get me wrong i like how the album track came out. it sounds cool. but there is less weight behind it.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 April 2024 14:15 (one year ago)
The Church Studio in Tulsa shares an original Shelter Records press release for Mudcrutch: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/64P5vPHp7FpKrGtv/?mibextid=oFDknk
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 28 April 2024 23:52 (one year ago)
We Stand A Chance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sMoU5esYcc
― scott seward, Monday, 29 April 2024 11:51 (one year ago)
not typically Petty? trying to think of someone who does songs like this and i can't think...feel like it would fit some singer. i like it though. its weird. that guitar is atypical.
― scott seward, Monday, 29 April 2024 11:52 (one year ago)
Another strong one imo. I like the piano, and the bridge is good (“My whole world is a fountain of flame,” dang dude). As to who else it sounds like, this is I can imagine Stevie Nicks singing.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 29 April 2024 12:10 (one year ago)
one I can imagine …
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 29 April 2024 12:11 (one year ago)
this is the kind of pleasant surprise i was looking forward to in this thread. nicely put together song, big fat chinn/chapman-sounding guitar.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 29 April 2024 12:31 (one year ago)
good song. is this the most toto-esque of petty songs?
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 29 April 2024 12:46 (one year ago)
maybe not toto, but the song does seem to fit a turn of the 80s lite fm framework that he doesn’t usually play with
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 29 April 2024 12:47 (one year ago)
i did think of Stevie. definitely. but someone else too. from that time period. maybe a pop country person? i dunno.
― scott seward, Monday, 29 April 2024 13:35 (one year ago)
no, not pop country. hell, maybe its just j. geils again. actually!! i think it might be supertramp. with that jaunty piano. imagine the vocals being supertramp.
― scott seward, Monday, 29 April 2024 13:38 (one year ago)
this album has the most generic song-titles. tom had a lot of them over the years. again, when i listen to tom i listen to an entire album and i never know the titles. other than the obvious ones. i won't remember any of these titles after we are done with this album. other than "you got lucky" and "change of heart".
― scott seward, Monday, 29 April 2024 13:43 (one year ago)
and "Straight Into Darkness," I hope,.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2024 13:52 (one year ago)
TOM PETTY IN THE WILD: S1 E10 of CBS drama Tracker starts with "You Wreck Me".
― scott seward, Monday, 29 April 2024 22:54 (one year ago)
Peter Stormare is in this episode...playing a total freak.
― scott seward, Monday, 29 April 2024 23:37 (one year ago)
Straight Into Darkness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyPeUV9-po8
― scott seward, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 13:03 (one year ago)
Years ago the ambiguity of the biblical trope bothered me; now I'm struck how what begins as a condemnatory song becomes a self-indictment. Tench's piano and those chiming guitars help -- going straight into darkness sure sounds attractive!
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 13:07 (one year ago)
This is one of his most frustrating songs for me - the chord changes off the top set up an atmosphere, and he's trying to convey a haunted mood but the fist-pumping chorus deflates it all. I can't see his singing appealing to everyone either.
i won't remember any of these titles after we are done with this album.
I listened to this at least a half-dozen times and don't remember a thing about any of the non-singles.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 13:14 (one year ago)
wow those vocals are mcguinn-like. these well-packaged song segments don't really cohere into a song.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 13:21 (one year ago)
Springsteen's favorite Petty song.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 13:21 (one year ago)
I remember flyin' out of LondonI remember the feeling at the timeOut the window of the 747Man there was nothin', only black sky
One of my favorite Petty verses. Love this song, it's probably top 10 Tom for me, definitely top 20. The foreboding in the music matches the sadness in the words. The chorus does reach for anthemic but it resolves to a minor chord, leaving it musically and narratively in the shadows.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 13:29 (one year ago)
i don't think the chord changes at the beginning are haunting or intended to be so, just the start of a journey
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:12 (one year ago)
the piano kind of reminds me of "king of pain"
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:22 (one year ago)
and "The End of the Innocence" a few years later
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:25 (one year ago)
just the start of a journey
... into darkness! I think they're pretty haunting.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:50 (one year ago)
We Stand a Chance: agreed that this feels like a big departure for these guys! Maybe it's the current Foreigner thread but I immediately thought of "Double Vision," sharpened and 80s-ed up a bit, inching towards Kihn/Survivor territory. The rather icy instrumental track highlights the creepier aspects of Petty's come-on, and I really like the almost countrified bridge. I dunno it I quite adds up as a track for me, but I like a lot of the details, like the handclaps and the searing guitar figure that comes in at the end.
The Stevie Nicks idea is very appealing. It would have been fun if management had tried to recapture the success of "Draggin'" by forcing another male/female duet every album. I want to suggest Juice Newton --- wrong label though. Ummm... Tina Turner??
Straight Into Darkness: This is cool! Another one where the updates Byrds sound takes them very close to R.E.M.... sounds great. Good title/hook for evoking this sudden collapse of love into misery sketched out in the first verse. The rest of the lyrics, apart from that great black sky line, feel a little nonspecific.
It also kinda feels like an (unintentional?) portrait of someone whose actual problem is a very deep-seated depression which they haven't recognized or articulated, so that his experience or perception of these individual situations keeps heading "straight into darkness." I'm gonna sit with that reading for a few listens.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:15 (one year ago)
There is this duet on The Wild Heart:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amOdiSljZa0
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:18 (one year ago)
The Same Old You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGPxPxO111c
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 11:51 (one year ago)
faux-stones petty is fun! that guitar sounds awesome.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 11:52 (one year ago)
Yeah, imo one of the better songs about aging Boomers — no "Boys of Summer," but a good-natured barroom jam.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:15 (one year ago)
you'll never hear me complain about a good mott the hoople rip. well, i guess except for his sense that her rebellious david bowie self would really rather ride shotgun while he tours middle america.
did you know there's a cover band of women on the west coast who call themselves "nott the hoople"?
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:30 (one year ago)
I have always loved the sneering five-syllable pronunciation of "politician"
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:54 (one year ago)
this is very fun, especially the "let that sucker blast" verse. what is he actually trying to say though? in what way did this person have him fooled/confused? is he delighted, or bitterly disappointed, to realize they're still their same old self?
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 2 May 2024 01:48 (one year ago)
Oh, delighted I think. He remembers her back in '72! Whooee.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 2 May 2024 02:16 (one year ago)
This album really does sound great, doesn't it? Punchy and bright but kind of grimy. Peak Iovine-era Petty, sonically.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 2 May 2024 02:20 (one year ago)
Between Two Worlds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y3YGUy_KFQ
― scott seward, Thursday, 2 May 2024 12:04 (one year ago)
Bob Seger's favorite Tom Petty song. kidding. but you totally would have believed me...especially when you heard the words "danger zone".
― scott seward, Thursday, 2 May 2024 12:05 (one year ago)