The popularity of the video made the song seem bigger than it was -- it peaked at #13.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 14:22 (one month ago) link
#2 on the Album Rock charts though! (Today's Mainstream Rock.)
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 16:13 (one month ago) link
Meandering goofy live version from 1991 that's compellingly great.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jDoXitEO0
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 8 May 2024 19:54 (one month ago) link
this one works for me the same way "you got lucky" does -- an effective combination of his own influences and modern radio production. another good driving song. i could do without the double-time part at the end which breaks the mood.
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 8 May 2024 22:27 (one month ago) link
Mentioned this earlier but now that we're at the actual song, I think both this song and video are key to establishing the Tom Petty persona that dominated the late '80s to mid '90s, and maybe really the rest of his career. It's where he crosses over to "Gen X's Favorite Boomer Uncle" status, this kind of hip older dude (he turned 35 in '85) who knows how to MTV and seems like he's probably fun to party with. Full Moon Fever was the full realization of that character, but I think this is where it starts.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 9 May 2024 01:19 (one month ago) link
otm
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 May 2024 01:24 (one month ago) link
the melody, performance and production around the basic seven-syllable hook is mesmerizing and i could listen to a loop of that for 20 minutes straight, even the part where he tries to make five syllables ("you daaar-ken my door") fill the space. i'm not sure anything else in the song is necessary, especially, yeah...
i could do without the double-time part at the end which breaks the mood.
...that
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 9 May 2024 05:55 (one month ago) link
It's where he crosses over to "Gen X's Favorite Boomer Uncle" status, this kind of hip older dude (he turned 35 in '85) who knows how to MTV and seems like he's probably fun to party with. Full Moon Fever was the full realization of that character, but I think this is where it starts.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 9 May 2024 08:45 (one month ago) link
Southern Accents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po8RCVlQZGc
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 May 2024 11:06 (one month ago) link
Like many people, my intro was the Johnny Cash cover.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 May 2024 11:44 (one month ago) link
Yeah, Cash treated it like a standard and essentially turned it into one. I think it's a good song, lovely melody, and as far as expressions of Southern pride go it's on the less noxious end of the spectrum.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 9 May 2024 12:19 (one month ago) link
dolly covered it too, for a tom petty tribute album.
― Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 9 May 2024 12:32 (one month ago) link
I like Dolly's version, except for the "not ashamed" coda — I get it, I know where she's coming from (literally — I know Sevier County pretty well), but it smacks just a little of uninterrogated Skynyrd-style Southern defiance.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 9 May 2024 12:48 (one month ago) link
A shrewd political calculator, that one.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 May 2024 13:00 (one month ago) link
perfect. no notes.
i love the echo of "wichita lineman" wafting through "think i might go work orlando / if them orange groves don't freeze."
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 9 May 2024 13:57 (one month ago) link
Make It Better (Forget About Me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnztiaAilWo
― scott seward, Friday, 10 May 2024 11:47 (one month ago) link
i've gotta say it. this is my LEAST favorite song so far. yuck. one of the three dave stewart co-writes on the album. i have no memory of the song OR the video. MTV did not make this video ubiquitous. and aren't they kinda ripping off that Cars video? i have absolutely nothing good to say about this. this could be the sound of cocaine. this could also totally be a j. geils band song. one of those songs that they stretch out to 20 interminable minutes live.
― scott seward, Friday, 10 May 2024 11:51 (one month ago) link
sounds like something Paul Shaffer would have produced for a forgotten rocker in the 80s. or Bruce Willis.
― scott seward, Friday, 10 May 2024 11:54 (one month ago) link
If it helps, Petty loathes it too; he's called it the worst song he ever wrote.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 May 2024 12:37 (one month ago) link
oh good. that does make me feel better.
― scott seward, Friday, 10 May 2024 12:39 (one month ago) link
I give it a small edge over “It Ain’t Nothin to Me” on coherence alone — it all sounds like one song. Just not a good one. A clunky Southern soul pastiche. Totally forgot it was a single, yikes.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 10 May 2024 12:44 (one month ago) link
starts out like a reasonable sam cooke inspired southside johnny or gary u.s. bonds track, but soon devolves into chord progressions that sound randomly selected. no amount of raving up could help this one.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 10 May 2024 12:52 (one month ago) link
southside and gary us bonds otm. this is both the most, and worst, asbury park 1980s song ever.
as a big fan of q-tips, thumbs up to that specific part of the video.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 10 May 2024 14:15 (one month ago) link
The good news is that the next two songs are good. (imo ymmv etc)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 10 May 2024 19:18 (one month ago) link
this is them trying to do Talking Heads right? it kinda stinks but it at least has me tapping my toes. "Southern Accents" just didn't land for me at all, must be a genre/sound aversion or something. ploddy 80s piano ballad vibes, idk.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 11 May 2024 00:06 (one month ago) link
is this what Graceland would have sounded like, in a universe where Hearts and Bones hadn't completely flipped? god it's dreadful. the video really captures the way-too-long, go-nowhere quality of the song. Petty clearly on something --- he's lost his usually decent knack for lip-synching, and his clap-synching seems intended for some different song entirely. i wonder if the ghastly-looking giant ear inspired the equivalent obstacle on Double Dare.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Monday, 13 May 2024 02:15 (one month ago) link
Spike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu8qe2vUUoA
― scott seward, Monday, 13 May 2024 12:25 (one month ago) link
i usually use tom's official youtube audio but that clip sounded way better. i would expect nothing less from someone called "steelyman08". maybe tom's team needs to think about an upgrade.
you be the judge. from tom's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7ALjBfVn9I
― scott seward, Monday, 13 May 2024 12:27 (one month ago) link
When Tom Petty sings In Character it's time to duck under the table like the Soviets fired their nuclear missiles.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 May 2024 12:29 (one month ago) link
its pretty goofy! maybe this is what mike judge heard that made him think of tom for a part on king of the hill.
― scott seward, Monday, 13 May 2024 12:48 (one month ago) link
finally listening to "make it better" - one-stop train to huey lewis town, but the way tom sings it seems to presage the eventual psamawayah of rusted root
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 May 2024 14:04 (one month ago) link
not great!
and it's 5 mins long, why
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 May 2024 14:05 (one month ago) link
at least "beat on the brat" doesn't beat around the bush.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 13 May 2024 17:42 (one month ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/OKX2MMv.jpg
Fun song, I like that by the end there's some ambivalent level of empathy from the surly redneck barfly. ("I might need me a dog collar too, boy/Might keep me safe") I don't think Petty ever wore a dog collar, but I assume he and his longhair buddies ran into some surly rednecks of their own. I also like the lazy bluesy shuffle, it feels like a hot afternoon at a dark dive bar.
And even tho Southern Accents isn't really a concept album, it has threads of one and this song is one of them. The narrator could be the same first-person as "Rebels" and the title track.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 13 May 2024 18:21 (one month ago) link
yeah for me Spike is the best thing on here so far besides the big hit
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Monday, 13 May 2024 18:23 (one month ago) link
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― scott seward, Monday, 13 May 2024 18:27 (one month ago) link
the Mudcrutch/Road Turkey picnic of 1973.
― scott seward, Monday, 13 May 2024 18:28 (one month ago) link
a long way from Los Angeles.
― scott seward, Monday, 13 May 2024 18:29 (one month ago) link
at fillmore southeast
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 May 2024 18:45 (one month ago) link
i kinda like the laid-back swampy groove but this mostly sounds like a sketch for a much better song he could've written if someone had splashed some water on his face and told him to try harder.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 13 May 2024 18:45 (one month ago) link
I'm with fcc on both pros and cons. I'd also like it better without the put-on voice, in the hands of say... Roger Miller?
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Monday, 13 May 2024 19:51 (one month ago) link
Dogs On The Run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV5F1C2NLdI
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 12:10 (one month ago) link
Petty does Springsteen! i like it!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 12:11 (one month ago) link
it's ok. mid-level tom. he was born in a crossfire hurricane. then he met some babe?
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 12:22 (one month ago) link
The only Campbell credit on the album and also my favorite song on it.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 12:51 (one month ago) link
Here's Campbell doing an acoustic version of it (video appears to only be on Facebook): https://fb.watch/s3871tc-9s/
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 13:29 (one month ago) link
this could've could've been a good bryan adams single. i think bryan would've sung it better.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 15:37 (one month ago) link
Least objectionable horns on the album here too imo, they're relegated to a supporting role and don't overwhelm the mix.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 15:41 (one month ago) link
this is a major breath of fresh air after these last few tracks imo. energetic, forceful, has convincing instrumental and vocal hooks. it finished and I wanted to start it over again just to hear that guitar part.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 00:17 (one month ago) link