My Middle Name Is Earl - The Official ILM Track-By-Track TOM PETTY Listening Thread

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the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 May 2024 03:21 (four weeks ago) link

“Don’t Pull Me Over” on Mojo

Runaway Trains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bW9FSMJ0JI

scott seward, Monday, 20 May 2024 11:47 (four weeks ago) link

where Tom Petty, still steamed about "The Boys of Summer," records his own.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2024 11:48 (four weeks ago) link

yes, this song uses the henley interval. otherwise known as The Devil's Chord.

scott seward, Monday, 20 May 2024 11:49 (four weeks ago) link

five minutes of nothing as far as i'm concerned. sorry tom.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 20 May 2024 12:05 (four weeks ago) link

I love the sound, the way the guitars are given a shriller, serrated tone in the last minute; the feel of Lynch's fills; the yearning in the chorus. I do agree it's not about anything but itself: overtones.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2024 12:09 (four weeks ago) link

I love this song. Great sweeping chorus. The production is soooo 1987, like it almost couldn’t have been made any other year.

Petty has said that Campbell handled the more "produced" material like "Runaway Trains" and "All Mixed Up."

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2024 12:22 (four weeks ago) link

this isn't terrible, but it ain't great

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Monday, 20 May 2024 15:09 (four weeks ago) link

it's a vibe. more than a song. i agree.

scott seward, Monday, 20 May 2024 15:24 (four weeks ago) link

I will say that the lyrics on the chorus are pretty weak. Runaway trains do usually have an actual explanation, and I don’t think we need to bring crying angels into this at all.

oof, I wish I liked this more. i appreciate the Gabriel-isms of the verses and the bridge, it's a cool soundscape. but Tom's melody and his performance aren't capitalizing on it... he's just kinda hanging around. and then the chorus takes us into this awful form of spaciously bland soundtrack-album VH1 ballad-rock.

glad the band was trying things, and glad there are folks here who love it!

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 00:35 (three weeks ago) link

A couple months after the arson attack on his house TP&TH did a string of shows at the Universal Amphitheater. Hilburn (goddamn it) writes about the shows and interviews TP who doesn't really talk about the new album at all. I lucked into seeing the third night - it was one of the best shows I'd seen at that point. The "Should I Stay Or Should I Go" cover was in, Roger McGuinn showed up, and the live "Runaway Trains" was 100x better. The Jacksonville show the following month is up on YouTube but I wish I could find recordings of any of those LA shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phSRV57fp4s

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 01:54 (three weeks ago) link

That's a good interview. You get a solid sense of Petty's thinking, and can read between the lines about his self-critique (when he makes fun of the glasses he was wearing...).

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 02:49 (three weeks ago) link

The Damage You've Done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wc4m0W7Xk4

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 11:42 (three weeks ago) link

@evelynbaron2004
4 years ago
It was Stan Lynch who said about the album Let me up I've had enough that the title spoke for itself but in this song I don't know if Tom is writing about Stan himself or his first wife; I really like it because it's full out raunchy and he is so fucking pissed off and lets it rip.

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 11:42 (three weeks ago) link

Improvised in the studio, Petty sez. He yelled chord changes as they jammed. Another good throwaway.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 11:45 (three weeks ago) link

decent album cut. girl problems used to inspire his best melodies; now we get two-chord vamps. at least it's sprightly, if not full out raunchy.

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 12:36 (three weeks ago) link

definitely more proof that he didn't need anyone else to produce his albums for him. sounds great. though there are nine engineers listed for this album. so he needed a little help.

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 13:02 (three weeks ago) link

I don't hear "girl problems," I hear, "I've got an album to deliver."

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 13:03 (three weeks ago) link

Live version 1992:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvmAo7nFtR0

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 14:22 (three weeks ago) link

cool to learn that "the damage you've done" was improvised in the studio, it def feels that way. band sounds great!

"runaway trains" seems to be going for the "the waiting" and "even the losers" territory but the writing isn't quite strong enough to get there. i like the production tho

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 18:11 (three weeks ago) link

Tomorrow: Springsteen's favorite Tom Petty song.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 18:18 (three weeks ago) link

this song was played a lot on WQMF, the AOR station in town, which very often went for shit kicker rock, which did the trick for lots of people in town unwilling to listen to 80s country.

veronica moser, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 19:29 (three weeks ago) link

"in town" = louisville

veronica moser, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 19:40 (three weeks ago) link

ooh did you get to see squirrel bait a bunch? if so: jealous. that's what i think of when i think of 80s Louisville.

love them so much. they were the bob dylan of grunge rock. nirvana were the tom petty.

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 20:27 (three weeks ago) link

yeah this is fine. at least the band sound like they're comfortable in it.. the whole feeling is kind of a good-natured jam in the garage by now-very-seasoned pros. unfortunately, this also means nothing about it really suggests a feeling of damage having been done. the words are serving the same function as the licks, "this is fun to play," I think.

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 20:43 (three weeks ago) link

Howie's chorus harmonies are nice.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 20:50 (three weeks ago) link

That live version is amazing - the riff is almost "Satisfaction," but they play it like they're in Endless Boogie. Was that during the Smack Years, or before?

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 20:55 (three weeks ago) link

1992, pre-smack

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 21:13 (three weeks ago) link

it occurred to me that after this album is the first wilburys album chronologically. you guys are going to have to remind me if we are doing the whole thing or not. then after that tom's first solo album and then back to the heartbreakers.

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 01:33 (three weeks ago) link

i know we are only two songs in but it already feels like tom got his personality back after that last album experience.

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 01:37 (three weeks ago) link

Wr can talk about "Ladt Night," his solo Wilburys number

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 01:51 (three weeks ago) link

Last

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 01:51 (three weeks ago) link

Talking about the whole Wilburys album could be fun, and it's where Full Moon Fever came from. But at a minimum, should include "End of the Line," he sings the verses and I've always thought of it as a Petty song. (If just for the way he sings, "when somebody plays/'Purple Haze'".)

I did see Squirrel bait once, in 1986, and was shaking in my 15 year old boots, seeing such a fantastically exciting band comprised of guys from my town, each about four years older than me (one member had known since I was very very young, his parents were friendly with mine)… saw various spin off bands involving searcy and Daughtry very often in the late 80s … while indie rock people look back on that band fondly, there is no question that Slint has utterly eclipsed them in town and probly everywhere else …I note that there is a presently active ILM thread re: David Grubbs' second best known project

veronica moser, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 02:14 (three weeks ago) link

i was on a panel with david grubbs once and i decided not to gush and play it cool but those SB albums meant a ton to me when i was a teen. he was very nice. and he knew my friend john armstrong who was also a louisville person. i knew john in philly though.

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 02:27 (three weeks ago) link

I'm cool with "End of the Line," another mostly Harrrisong ftr, which you can hear in the chords.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 02:37 (three weeks ago) link

It'll All Work Out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVEXkLht6hQ

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 11:57 (three weeks ago) link

tom discovers zen, mandolins, three-quarter time. pretty nice. no wonder springsteen likes this; it was created in his image.

Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 12:08 (three weeks ago) link

One of his best ballads.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 12:12 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah lovely little song.

Lovely is the word. As the thread goes on I've come to be fond of all these songs in the "No Second Thoughts" lineage, and this is the most fully worked out. Very pretty arrangement, nice unhurried performance. A welcome return to form.

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 12:44 (three weeks ago) link

Forgot about this one. What a great song!

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 23 May 2024 01:00 (three weeks ago) link

My Life / Your World

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzAkM1-Gdn4

scott seward, Thursday, 23 May 2024 12:14 (three weeks ago) link

getting his j.j. cale on again like the old days. man, what a difference two years makes. though the chorus isn't a j.j. chorus.

scott seward, Thursday, 23 May 2024 12:15 (three weeks ago) link

j.j. cale may be too kind? i think we're in don henley / mark knopfler territory. yet it somehow hangs together.

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 23 May 2024 13:09 (three weeks ago) link

I get Knopfler vibes. He's trying to write another story. Shrewd lyrics.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2024 13:11 (three weeks ago) link

it has that synth sound in it that i was already tired of by 1986. a korg?

scott seward, Thursday, 23 May 2024 13:43 (three weeks ago) link


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