i do feel like jeff lynne knew how to bring the george out of george and make him really sound like george. his voice. his guitar. on this and cloud nine.
― scott seward, Thursday, 6 June 2024 12:47 (five months ago) link
Fifteen years earlier, this Harrisong would've been a sententious affair; now he wrote this shiny, tuneful, ebullient death song. The harmonies and Jim Horn sax are essential.
The opening synth line on "Margarita" -- the Wilburys as Kraftwerk? Then it settles into its Bo Diddley groove. Great throwaway lines ("She wrote a long letter on a short piece of paper").
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 June 2024 12:48 (five months ago) link
― scott seward,
Totally. Cloud Nine was Lynne's first production for these guys and probably the best? George as co-producer kept the Lynneisms in check.
"Heading For the Light" was like Dylan's "Congratulations" a song George brought basically completed.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 June 2024 12:50 (five months ago) link
speaking of production and jim horn, i like some of the stuff on this 1979 roy album. i think there are a couple of 70s-saxy slow jams too. but i just like the way this song sounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecZPP2ONQKA
― scott seward, Thursday, 6 June 2024 12:58 (five months ago) link
the george song is a good one. not sure what to think about "margarita" -- lots of different things spliced together. it's almost like a studio demo of "hey look what i can do with all these famous guys."
― Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 6 June 2024 13:03 (five months ago) link
Oh this is the Disco Orbison album! xpost
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 June 2024 13:03 (five months ago) link
t's almost like a studio demo of "hey look what i can do with all these famous guys."
why it works imo
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 June 2024 13:05 (five months ago) link
also--that's the Wilbury conceit!
― a (waterface), Thursday, 6 June 2024 13:27 (five months ago) link
Yeah Laminar Flow rules and I’m not even a big Roy guy!
― brimstead, Thursday, 6 June 2024 13:42 (five months ago) link
My mom loved "she wrote a long letter, on a short piece of paper."
On the other hand, I remember playing this album in my apartment, circa 2005, for J. Blount (still lurking? idk), him being fairly skeptical throughout, and completely abandoning ship at Margarita's "wang a lang a" backing vocals.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 13:47 (five months ago) link
Alfred otm re: Heading for the Light - can EASILY imagine the turgid version buried in the folds of Here in the Material World. But this one's delightful.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 6 June 2024 13:48 (five months ago) link
Knowing blount I'm shocked he didn't decide that "Margarita" moment was the moment to stay.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 June 2024 13:51 (five months ago) link
Tweeter And The Monkey Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PabG3nJRu3k
End Of The Line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMVjToYOjbM
― scott seward, Friday, 7 June 2024 12:35 (five months ago) link
"end of the line" is the one for me. i think its the best thing that came out of this project.
"Tweeter and the Monkey Man" is Dylan's Springsteen piss-take. I love the AND THE WALLS CAME DOWN interlude. That's why we go to the Wilburys.
"End of the Line" is another mostly George song, but I can't imagine it without Tom Petty's generous, relaxed vocal: he's like an old dear friend paying respects.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 12:37 (five months ago) link
Maxine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zcnj3lTczI
Like A Ship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnCWCNbVvUU
― scott seward, Friday, 7 June 2024 12:38 (five months ago) link
and there you have it. onward to Full Moon Fever.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 June 2024 12:40 (five months ago) link
As a kid, I was mildly scandalized by the use of "Hell," but understood that wild rock and roll band singers would be the types to use language like that.
Apart from all the Jersey window-dressing, which is certainly Springsteen, this seems of a piece with many a Dylan story-song, from "Lily" to "Black Diamond Bay" and even "Hurricane" --- the shift to the first person observer at the end is straight out of the latter two. It all works, not the most exciting crime spree song narrative but I think he just wants it to rhyme, man. I'm not sure what to make of Tweeter's trans status... It could certainly be handled worse.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:05 (five months ago) link
re those last two, the wilburys sure knew how to write throwaways. the first one is evelavated by george's voice, and wow that dylan guitar solo in the second one.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:25 (five months ago) link
Dylan doesn't take any solos on the album; they're all George, according to the credits.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:25 (five months ago) link
that could be true but i have heard lots of dylan guitar solos and that sounds exactly like them. maybe george or someone was channeling dylan? or maybe they didn't count that as an official solo?
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:27 (five months ago) link
actually two guitars are soloing there, but the dylan(esque) one is prominent.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:29 (five months ago) link
Hm! I'm still hearing George's jangle and easily identifiable slide.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:30 (five months ago) link
I just glanced at the credits again and Harrison and Lynne are the only electric guitarists; the other three strum acoustic.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:31 (five months ago) link
we're talking "like a ship" at 1:55? dylan only knows two notes when he solos, and those are the two. i guess it was a loving homage by harrison and/or lynne.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:35 (five months ago) link
Oh! Sorry. I thought you meant "End of the Line."
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:36 (five months ago) link
“end of the line” is one of those songs that feels like it’s always been around
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:58 (five months ago) link
"End of the Line" is really lovely. Best-case scenario for an upbeat middle-aged rock star reflection song. It gains an added poignancy from Orbison's passing --- at only 52! --- and now from Harrison's and Petty's as well. Tom's verses are beautifully delivered, although I'll note that this would have been my first experience of misunderstanding him: "Sit around and wonder / What your ma will bring," I thought.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:50 (five months ago) link
oh yeah for the record, "maxine" and "like a ship" didn't make the album.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:21 (five months ago) link
those are from the "box set" they did later, yeah?
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 7 June 2024 15:24 (five months ago) link
yah.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:25 (five months ago) link
seems like "like a ship" should have though! wondering if dylan thought twice about giving it up...
don't think twice, bob...put it on the album.
don't know what happened there though.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:26 (five months ago) link
so the Wilburys never played live, did they? no TV appearances or anything?
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 7 June 2024 15:27 (five months ago) link
You know Dylan had had a good time when apparently he called George in 1990 or so and asked if they doing another of those Wilbury things
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 15:31 (five months ago) link
never heard these unused tracks before. "Maxine" seems like a Lynne/Harrison demo with not much Wilbury to it, and a pretty unfinished idea for a chorus. "Like a Ship" similarly feels like Lynne auditioning to produce Bob's next album but definitely has a little more going on with the very Beatles-y piano, drum fills and backing vox. i don't think it's better than anything on the album, so if they wanted to keep it short and sweet, they made the right final cut. woulda been a fine b-side though.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:48 (five months ago) link
yeah I'm somewhat baffled that they didn't use those as B-sides, they certainly had enough singles from the album
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:51 (five months ago) link
I feel like this album sort of single-handedly invented the "just some guys in a room getting back to basics" template. it's such a warm relaxing listen, it's cool to see how much fun they are obviously having in that End Of The Line video.
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:53 (five months ago) link
idk maybe that was "invented" with Let It Be, now that I think about it
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:54 (five months ago) link
I love “End of the Line.” Especially poignant given that Orbison died so soon after. (At 52! Still adjusting to the idea that I’m now older than any of these guys were when they did this.)
“Tweeter” is fun — Petty played it the last time I saw him, at Bonnaroo in 2013, it was a good jam.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:56 (five months ago) link
(Oops just saw Dr. Casino made the same point about Orbison’s age and death.)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:58 (five months ago) link
just checked the date that i saw roy orbison give a free park concert in point lookout l.i. (with fireworks!) -- it was july 1987, just pre-wilburys i guess. at the time he was a john belushi punchline. the wilburys really cemented his reputation.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 7 June 2024 18:39 (five months ago) link
it was july 1987, just pre-wilburys i guess. at the time he was a john belushi punchline. the wilburys really cemented his reputation.
He was already well on the comeback trail by then. "In Dreams" was in Blue Velvet, he had a new song on the soundtrack to Less Than Zero (terrible movie, great soundtrack), and had just put out In Dreams: The Greatest Hits, an album of re-recordings. (I used to own it; haven't heard it in decades so can't say whether it's actually good or not.)
https://www.discogs.com/master/137148-Roy-Orbison-In-Dreams-The-Greatest-Hits
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 7 June 2024 19:38 (five months ago) link
Someone posted in the main Roy Orbison thread that it was as if the entire industry wanted a comeback.
He co-wrote "Life Fades Away" with Glenn Danzig and it's terrific.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 19:54 (five months ago) link
Free Fallin'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWJXDG2i0A
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:13 (four months ago) link
https://i.discogs.com/p3hLYX1GfB7ypBrm7_I0nA3mfE8d5isVjpnQcJBw814/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:500/w:500/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTEwMjky/NjUtMTE4NTg1Mzgx/OS5qcGVn.jpeg
https://i.discogs.com/e9wjwxdbvQt6oO1ou0qXr2Qdln0DjmmMRwrJUNU6WKo/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:598/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTEwMjky/NjUtMTM2OTk1MzYz/NS0xNTg0LmpwZWc.jpeg
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:14 (four months ago) link
this song is inconceivably good.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:16 (four months ago) link
all of a sudden its the 90s. just like that. it does not sound like the 80s.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:19 (four months ago) link
His first top ten since "Don't Do Me Like That" (or "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around").
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2024 12:23 (four months ago) link
it must have taken an inconceivable amount of restraint not to add another bridge or break or chorus whatever. just take it and run with it.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:27 (four months ago) link