i think this is my aoty so far which is probably just a reflection of how little i've really loved anything this year
but it rules!
― ufo, Friday, 7 June 2024 12:06 (five months ago) link
I've never understood her, a few hits and coulda-beens aside. We want to turn her into a pop star, she clearly wants to be a star, but she lacks the songs and the vocal presence?
Anyway, listening now to see if my mind changes.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 12:41 (five months ago) link
idk she seems pretty happy with her hyperpop weirdo niche these days
― ufo, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:00 (five months ago) link
alright Club Classics is awesome
― imago, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:10 (five months ago) link
okay yeah this is a huuuuge return, she is back
― imago, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:15 (five months ago) link
The three advance tracks were imho above anything she'd done before so yeah i'm primed for this to be aoty material
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:22 (five months ago) link
it's fabulous. it probably doesn't need 'mean girls' and 'i think about it all the time' but these are minor infractions
― imago, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:43 (five months ago) link
no way, "i think about it all the time" is essential and "mean girls" at least has that crazy piano part
― ufo, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:43 (five months ago) link
they'll probably both grow on me
cosign 'girl, so confusing' as a high-point mind
― imago, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:44 (five months ago) link
goddamn '365'
― imago, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:45 (five months ago) link
"i think about it all the time" is one of my favourites here, just a great vibe
― ufo, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:48 (five months ago) link
We want to turn her into a pop star, she clearly wants to be a star, but she lacks the songs and the vocal presence?
Plenty of other people around if you want that, doesn’t feel like this is what she wants to be at all and likes to do her own thing.
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:59 (five months ago) link
she's found a good lane and i'm so glad she's still doing this
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:03 (five months ago) link
"Von Dutch" pressing all the buttons HARD, weirdly it's more exciting without the video distraction
otm. even though the video is cool too. just a nuts track. Remix also great
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:04 (five months ago) link
― Chewshabadoo,
I don't want that for her but for a while it seemed like she did. Part of what makes this album a delight after my second listen is how she doesn't give a fuck anymore. She and her producers have manipulated a bunch of cool-sounding electronic burps and screeches and big synth bass for the sake of songs about how to face the life you've ignored after you've been out partying. (I still don't like "Von Dutch").
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:07 (five months ago) link
it was only really crash that was a deliberate attempt at commercial success, which didn't even really work as that and was all the worse for her trying
― ufo, Friday, 7 June 2024 14:08 (five months ago) link
That makes me think more of "Charli" ("Crash" did go to #1). But yes this album is supposed to be (and on first listen,yeah,sounds like) a harder turn into weirdpop/what she's purporting to really want to do. Maybe she got better terms on her renewed record deal idk
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:10 (five months ago) link
didn’t like “von dutch” much as a standalone, but luckily it’s probably my least favorite on here. “club classics” is indeed a mega classic(“i just wanna hear me when i’m on the dance floor”), also love “everything is romantic” (“falling in love agayne and agayne”), “rewind,” and “girl, so confusing”
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:11 (five months ago) link
honestly most songs are highlights, this is great
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:16 (five months ago) link
charli felt more like a weird compromise-with-the-label than anything else, like it was just a bit of a mess and seemed to be a few different projects cobbled together
― ufo, Friday, 7 June 2024 14:18 (five months ago) link
don't know if this is showing up anywhere else, but on spotify she changed the art on all of her previous albums to match the style of the BRAT cover
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:23 (five months ago) link
pop 2 & how i'm feeling now were definitely not her aiming for or caring about commercial success and were brilliant (although given "unlock it" later having a bit of tiktok success she might have been able to get more out of it if her label had done any promotion at all when it was released)
― ufo, Friday, 7 June 2024 14:26 (five months ago) link
yes true. "pop 2" was a "mixtape" though. and "how i'm feeling now" i'm thinking sort of a deep-in-lockdown easier sell to the label?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:32 (five months ago) link
crash being an attempt at selling out was very much on her own terms from everything she's said, it's never sounded like it was due to label pressure or anything. i just wish she'd stuck more to the original new jack swing concept she had, the tracks that lean into that were great. she got too cynical with her sell out moves and didn't play to her strengths much
― ufo, Friday, 7 June 2024 14:43 (five months ago) link
“mean girls” is hyper-Kesha (complimentary). the piano part’s left hand is basically “outstanding” by the gap band
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:48 (five months ago) link
she had a bunch of trouble with her label with sucker and charli but it seems like after charli they just gave up on trying to force anything and let her do what she wanted
― ufo, Friday, 7 June 2024 14:50 (five months ago) link
As I just muttered elsewhere, Brat is a good pump-up-in-the-morning listen as it is a good later evening one, I'm finding.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:00 (five months ago) link
"So I" so beautiful!
― J. Sam, Saturday, 8 June 2024 00:53 (five months ago) link
it’s Charli baby
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 8 June 2024 03:57 (five months ago) link
maybe this is even better than pop 2
― ufo, Saturday, 8 June 2024 13:40 (five months ago) link
no mildly grating features for one
nothing tops P2, despite the verse on Femmebot
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 8 June 2024 13:49 (five months ago) link
how i'm feeling now is absolutely her best
― ufo, Saturday, 8 June 2024 13:54 (five months ago) link
^yes
― imago, Saturday, 8 June 2024 16:10 (five months ago) link
this one's great but the lyrics possibly a limiting factor
got my hopes up because the p4k review made it sound like it was gonna have bloghouse production. but it sounds m/l the same as everything else she's done the last few years? maybe top 40 with some touches of hyper pop is basically the same thing
― flopson, Saturday, 8 June 2024 17:52 (five months ago) link
The new album is so great. I'm surprised to find myself loving the ballads as much as I am. So I is absolutely devastating. I'm really into I Think About It All The Time as well. It gives me Air vibes.
She's got such a solid back catalogue now. I'd rank them like this:
Pop 2 How I'm Feeling Now True Romance Brat Sucker (this is so underrated now)Charli (needs a slight trim, but does contain some of her best songs) Number 1 Angel Crash (definitely not as bad as some people make out)
― kitchen person, Saturday, 8 June 2024 19:12 (five months ago) link
Nailed it for me!
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 8 June 2024 19:26 (five months ago) link
my ranking is something like:
how i'm feeling nowbratpop 2
(all the leaked unreleased material from the original version of her third album)
number 1 angelcrashtrue romancecharli
sucker
― ufo, Sunday, 9 June 2024 01:03 (five months ago) link
I’m broad minded and variable in my preferences but on no planet is this album better than Pop 2. Maybe hifn is her best, depending on the day.
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 9 June 2024 07:54 (five months ago) link
but overall I’m thrilled brat is so good we’re having these arguments in the first place.
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 9 June 2024 07:55 (five months ago) link
i think pop 2 has higher highs in "backseat", "unlock it" and "track 10" but brat is just a better listen overall, it's a more relaxed vibe, no features, etc.
― ufo, Sunday, 9 June 2024 08:23 (five months ago) link
“von dutch” my favorite track on second listen. such a sick beat
― flopson, Sunday, 9 June 2024 15:56 (five months ago) link
It’s time to admit I was relieved to see no appearances by Christine and the Queens
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 9 June 2024 23:27 (five months ago) link
I find them insufferable tbh
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 9 June 2024 23:30 (five months ago) link
Oh boy, there's more!
Brat and it’s the same but there’s three more songs so it’s not - Out at midnight. pic.twitter.com/XFbOQsRqDX— Charli (@charli_xcx) June 10, 2024
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 10 June 2024 01:15 (five months ago) link
the bonus tracks are good but hardly feel like they really needed to be on the album or anything
― ufo, Monday, 10 June 2024 05:28 (five months ago) link
"hello goodbye" is excellent though
― ufo, Monday, 10 June 2024 05:29 (five months ago) link
I think both “hello goodbye” and “guess” are good enough for the album
― Tim F, Monday, 10 June 2024 06:21 (five months ago) link
i just mean that it's not like the crash bonus tracks which were better than most of the album, for instance. they're not a step down either
― ufo, Monday, 10 June 2024 07:12 (five months ago) link