and there you have it. onward to Full Moon Fever.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 June 2024 12:40 (five months ago) link
As a kid, I was mildly scandalized by the use of "Hell," but understood that wild rock and roll band singers would be the types to use language like that.
Apart from all the Jersey window-dressing, which is certainly Springsteen, this seems of a piece with many a Dylan story-song, from "Lily" to "Black Diamond Bay" and even "Hurricane" --- the shift to the first person observer at the end is straight out of the latter two. It all works, not the most exciting crime spree song narrative but I think he just wants it to rhyme, man. I'm not sure what to make of Tweeter's trans status... It could certainly be handled worse.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:05 (five months ago) link
re those last two, the wilburys sure knew how to write throwaways. the first one is evelavated by george's voice, and wow that dylan guitar solo in the second one.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:25 (five months ago) link
Dylan doesn't take any solos on the album; they're all George, according to the credits.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:25 (five months ago) link
that could be true but i have heard lots of dylan guitar solos and that sounds exactly like them. maybe george or someone was channeling dylan? or maybe they didn't count that as an official solo?
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:27 (five months ago) link
actually two guitars are soloing there, but the dylan(esque) one is prominent.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:29 (five months ago) link
Hm! I'm still hearing George's jangle and easily identifiable slide.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:30 (five months ago) link
I just glanced at the credits again and Harrison and Lynne are the only electric guitarists; the other three strum acoustic.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:31 (five months ago) link
we're talking "like a ship" at 1:55? dylan only knows two notes when he solos, and those are the two. i guess it was a loving homage by harrison and/or lynne.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 7 June 2024 13:35 (five months ago) link
Oh! Sorry. I thought you meant "End of the Line."
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:36 (five months ago) link
“end of the line” is one of those songs that feels like it’s always been around
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 June 2024 13:58 (five months ago) link
"End of the Line" is really lovely. Best-case scenario for an upbeat middle-aged rock star reflection song. It gains an added poignancy from Orbison's passing --- at only 52! --- and now from Harrison's and Petty's as well. Tom's verses are beautifully delivered, although I'll note that this would have been my first experience of misunderstanding him: "Sit around and wonder / What your ma will bring," I thought.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Friday, 7 June 2024 14:50 (five months ago) link
oh yeah for the record, "maxine" and "like a ship" didn't make the album.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:21 (five months ago) link
those are from the "box set" they did later, yeah?
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 7 June 2024 15:24 (five months ago) link
yah.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:25 (five months ago) link
seems like "like a ship" should have though! wondering if dylan thought twice about giving it up...
don't think twice, bob...put it on the album.
don't know what happened there though.
― scott seward, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:26 (five months ago) link
so the Wilburys never played live, did they? no TV appearances or anything?
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 7 June 2024 15:27 (five months ago) link
You know Dylan had had a good time when apparently he called George in 1990 or so and asked if they doing another of those Wilbury things
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 15:31 (five months ago) link
never heard these unused tracks before. "Maxine" seems like a Lynne/Harrison demo with not much Wilbury to it, and a pretty unfinished idea for a chorus. "Like a Ship" similarly feels like Lynne auditioning to produce Bob's next album but definitely has a little more going on with the very Beatles-y piano, drum fills and backing vox. i don't think it's better than anything on the album, so if they wanted to keep it short and sweet, they made the right final cut. woulda been a fine b-side though.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:48 (five months ago) link
yeah I'm somewhat baffled that they didn't use those as B-sides, they certainly had enough singles from the album
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:51 (five months ago) link
I feel like this album sort of single-handedly invented the "just some guys in a room getting back to basics" template. it's such a warm relaxing listen, it's cool to see how much fun they are obviously having in that End Of The Line video.
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:53 (five months ago) link
idk maybe that was "invented" with Let It Be, now that I think about it
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:54 (five months ago) link
I love “End of the Line.” Especially poignant given that Orbison died so soon after. (At 52! Still adjusting to the idea that I’m now older than any of these guys were when they did this.)
“Tweeter” is fun — Petty played it the last time I saw him, at Bonnaroo in 2013, it was a good jam.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:56 (five months ago) link
(Oops just saw Dr. Casino made the same point about Orbison’s age and death.)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:58 (five months ago) link
just checked the date that i saw roy orbison give a free park concert in point lookout l.i. (with fireworks!) -- it was july 1987, just pre-wilburys i guess. at the time he was a john belushi punchline. the wilburys really cemented his reputation.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 7 June 2024 18:39 (five months ago) link
it was july 1987, just pre-wilburys i guess. at the time he was a john belushi punchline. the wilburys really cemented his reputation.
He was already well on the comeback trail by then. "In Dreams" was in Blue Velvet, he had a new song on the soundtrack to Less Than Zero (terrible movie, great soundtrack), and had just put out In Dreams: The Greatest Hits, an album of re-recordings. (I used to own it; haven't heard it in decades so can't say whether it's actually good or not.)
https://www.discogs.com/master/137148-Roy-Orbison-In-Dreams-The-Greatest-Hits
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 7 June 2024 19:38 (five months ago) link
Someone posted in the main Roy Orbison thread that it was as if the entire industry wanted a comeback.
He co-wrote "Life Fades Away" with Glenn Danzig and it's terrific.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 19:54 (five months ago) link
Free Fallin'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWJXDG2i0A
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:13 (five months ago) link
https://i.discogs.com/p3hLYX1GfB7ypBrm7_I0nA3mfE8d5isVjpnQcJBw814/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:500/w:500/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTEwMjky/NjUtMTE4NTg1Mzgx/OS5qcGVn.jpeg
https://i.discogs.com/e9wjwxdbvQt6oO1ou0qXr2Qdln0DjmmMRwrJUNU6WKo/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:598/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTEwMjky/NjUtMTM2OTk1MzYz/NS0xNTg0LmpwZWc.jpeg
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:14 (five months ago) link
this song is inconceivably good.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:16 (five months ago) link
all of a sudden its the 90s. just like that. it does not sound like the 80s.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:19 (five months ago) link
His first top ten since "Don't Do Me Like That" (or "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around").
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2024 12:23 (five months ago) link
it must have taken an inconceivable amount of restraint not to add another bridge or break or chorus whatever. just take it and run with it.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:27 (five months ago) link
Two things sink this for me - the airless, compressed Lynne backing vocals, and literally trying to drum up some tension in the third verse with pasted-in snare rolls.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:39 (five months ago) link
No one, Petty least, expected Full Moon Fever, a solo album, to be the biggest-selling album of his career, selling more copies than Damn the Torpedoes. I'm not sure what zeitgeist it exploited -- I was there and still can't figure it out. His first album with three top 40 singles, all of which get airplay somewhere today ("I Won't Back Down," "Runnin' Down a Dream"), a bunch of other big ones on the mainstream rock chart ("A Face in the Crowd," "Yer So Bad," "Love is a Long Road"). The damn thing kept selling and selling well into 1990. A total triumph for Petty and the Wilbury sound.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2024 12:54 (five months ago) link
ventura boulevard
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 June 2024 12:58 (five months ago) link
the backing vocals are by far the best thing about the song, fuiud
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 June 2024 12:59 (five months ago) link
Hoo boy here we go. Totally agree that this marks a shift toward the '90s — specifically the nascent AAA radio format, which "Free Fallin'" with its bright acoustic strumming was built for. (This is the year after "Fast Car" and the same year as "Closer to Fine" — the folkies are back, man.)
"Free Fallin'" is undeniable as a song imo, even though I've never loved the Lynne production. As a by-now longtime Petty fan, I was a bit put off by Full Moon Fever. It felt kind of light and slight to me. I like several of the songs on it, but mostly even the ones I like don't feel like they have much to them.
Actually, I don't need to tell you what I thought of it then because my college newspaper has helpfully archived my contemporaneous review lol: https://www.psucollegian.com/archives/arts/tom-petty-loosens-up-on-lightweight-solo-album/article_4e88464c-9d8d-5241-884b-857cb2be00fe.html
Please forgive my literally sophomoric prose (I was 19). But this is the conclusion: "Full Moon Fever is not a great album by any standards, and certainly not by Petty's; at the same time, though, its pleasingly effortless air underlines Petty's natural talent as a singer, songwriter and musician."
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 10 June 2024 13:22 (five months ago) link
I'd make the same argument about Let Me Down (I've Had Enough): slight in intention, cumulatively impressive, lingers in the memory.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2024 13:24 (five months ago) link
idk I can't separate the goodness of "Free Fallin'" from Lynne's creaminess. If it sounded like Indigo Girls or Tracy Chapman or a Wildflowers number it would've bored me.
(I don't choose to listen to "Free Fallin' these days)
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2024 13:25 (five months ago) link
Yeah I can't imagine putting on "Free Fallin'" on purpose, but that's partly because I don't need to, I'll hear it soon enough one way or another.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 10 June 2024 13:29 (five months ago) link
this song will always remind me of "janie's got a gun". same year. ubiquitous videos. two inescapable albums.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 13:32 (five months ago) link
i do like "free fallin'" a lot despite the fact that i have heard it four million times. apparently it just becomes an element in the air. like birdsong. it wouldn't occur to me to be sick of it. its never very intrusive.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 13:34 (five months ago) link
It just occurred to me: the ultimate southern boy namechecks several L.A. streets.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2024 13:35 (five months ago) link
i never get tired of the other two big ones either. hey if i can hear "fly like an eagle" and "rock'n me" ten million times and not hate them...
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 13:36 (five months ago) link
i'm just gonna get this out of the way and admit that "runnin' down a dream" might be my fave TP song. for me it is the perfect blend of petty lyrics & delivery/campbell guitar. i don't know what jeff lynne had to do with that one. doesn't seem like they needed him much for it.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 13:40 (five months ago) link
Yeah, "Runnin' Down a Dream" is definitely the one song I still listen to from this record.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 10 June 2024 14:33 (five months ago) link
The next one always raises my heartrate immediately at the opening slide lick, never gets old
― brimstead, Monday, 10 June 2024 14:49 (five months ago) link
do we have Lynne to thank for all the 12 string guitar because if so, god bless
― Heez, Monday, 10 June 2024 15:43 (five months ago) link