My Middle Name Is Earl - The Official ILM Track-By-Track TOM PETTY Listening Thread

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idk maybe that was "invented" with Let It Be, now that I think about it

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 7 June 2024 16:54 (two weeks ago) link

I love “End of the Line.” Especially poignant given that Orbison died so soon after. (At 52! Still adjusting to the idea that I’m now older than any of these guys were when they did this.)

“Tweeter” is fun — Petty played it the last time I saw him, at Bonnaroo in 2013, it was a good jam.

(Oops just saw Dr. Casino made the same point about Orbison’s age and death.)

just checked the date that i saw roy orbison give a free park concert in point lookout l.i. (with fireworks!) -- it was july 1987, just pre-wilburys i guess. at the time he was a john belushi punchline. the wilburys really cemented his reputation.

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 7 June 2024 18:39 (two weeks ago) link

it was july 1987, just pre-wilburys i guess. at the time he was a john belushi punchline. the wilburys really cemented his reputation.

He was already well on the comeback trail by then. "In Dreams" was in Blue Velvet, he had a new song on the soundtrack to Less Than Zero (terrible movie, great soundtrack), and had just put out In Dreams: The Greatest Hits, an album of re-recordings. (I used to own it; haven't heard it in decades so can't say whether it's actually good or not.)

https://www.discogs.com/master/137148-Roy-Orbison-In-Dreams-The-Greatest-Hits

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 7 June 2024 19:38 (two weeks ago) link

Someone posted in the main Roy Orbison thread that it was as if the entire industry wanted a comeback.

He co-wrote "Life Fades Away" with Glenn Danzig and it's terrific.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 June 2024 19:54 (two weeks ago) link

Free Fallin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWJXDG2i0A

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:13 (two weeks ago) link

this song is inconceivably good.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:16 (two weeks ago) link

all of a sudden its the 90s. just like that. it does not sound like the 80s.

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:19 (two weeks ago) link

His first top ten since "Don't Do Me Like That" (or "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around").

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2024 12:23 (two weeks ago) link

it must have taken an inconceivable amount of restraint not to add another bridge or break or chorus whatever. just take it and run with it.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:27 (two weeks ago) link

Two things sink this for me - the airless, compressed Lynne backing vocals, and literally trying to drum up some tension in the third verse with pasted-in snare rolls.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:39 (two weeks ago) link

No one, Petty least, expected Full Moon Fever, a solo album, to be the biggest-selling album of his career, selling more copies than Damn the Torpedoes. I'm not sure what zeitgeist it exploited -- I was there and still can't figure it out. His first album with three top 40 singles, all of which get airplay somewhere today ("I Won't Back Down," "Runnin' Down a Dream"), a bunch of other big ones on the mainstream rock chart ("A Face in the Crowd," "Yer So Bad," "Love is a Long Road"). The damn thing kept selling and selling well into 1990. A total triumph for Petty and the Wilbury sound.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2024 12:54 (two weeks ago) link

ventura boulevard

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 June 2024 12:58 (two weeks ago) link

the backing vocals are by far the best thing about the song, fuiud

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 June 2024 12:59 (two weeks ago) link

Hoo boy here we go. Totally agree that this marks a shift toward the '90s — specifically the nascent AAA radio format, which "Free Fallin'" with its bright acoustic strumming was built for. (This is the year after "Fast Car" and the same year as "Closer to Fine" — the folkies are back, man.)

"Free Fallin'" is undeniable as a song imo, even though I've never loved the Lynne production. As a by-now longtime Petty fan, I was a bit put off by Full Moon Fever. It felt kind of light and slight to me. I like several of the songs on it, but mostly even the ones I like don't feel like they have much to them.

Actually, I don't need to tell you what I thought of it then because my college newspaper has helpfully archived my contemporaneous review lol: https://www.psucollegian.com/archives/arts/tom-petty-loosens-up-on-lightweight-solo-album/article_4e88464c-9d8d-5241-884b-857cb2be00fe.html

Please forgive my literally sophomoric prose (I was 19). But this is the conclusion: "Full Moon Fever is not a great album by any standards, and certainly not by Petty's; at the same time, though, its pleasingly effortless air underlines Petty's natural talent as a singer, songwriter and musician."

I'd make the same argument about Let Me Down (I've Had Enough): slight in intention, cumulatively impressive, lingers in the memory.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2024 13:24 (two weeks ago) link

idk I can't separate the goodness of "Free Fallin'" from Lynne's creaminess. If it sounded like Indigo Girls or Tracy Chapman or a Wildflowers number it would've bored me.

(I don't choose to listen to "Free Fallin' these days)

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2024 13:25 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah I can't imagine putting on "Free Fallin'" on purpose, but that's partly because I don't need to, I'll hear it soon enough one way or another.

this song will always remind me of "janie's got a gun". same year. ubiquitous videos. two inescapable albums.

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 13:32 (two weeks ago) link

i do like "free fallin'" a lot despite the fact that i have heard it four million times. apparently it just becomes an element in the air. like birdsong. it wouldn't occur to me to be sick of it. its never very intrusive.

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 13:34 (two weeks ago) link

It just occurred to me: the ultimate southern boy namechecks several L.A. streets.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2024 13:35 (two weeks ago) link

i never get tired of the other two big ones either. hey if i can hear "fly like an eagle" and "rock'n me" ten million times and not hate them...

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 13:36 (two weeks ago) link

i'm just gonna get this out of the way and admit that "runnin' down a dream" might be my fave TP song. for me it is the perfect blend of petty lyrics & delivery/campbell guitar. i don't know what jeff lynne had to do with that one. doesn't seem like they needed him much for it.

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 13:40 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, "Runnin' Down a Dream" is definitely the one song I still listen to from this record.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 10 June 2024 14:33 (two weeks ago) link

The next one always raises my heartrate immediately at the opening slide lick, never gets old

brimstead, Monday, 10 June 2024 14:49 (two weeks ago) link

do we have Lynne to thank for all the 12 string guitar because if so, god bless

Heez, Monday, 10 June 2024 15:43 (two weeks ago) link

to me it's the simplicity of the song (same chords all the way through) and the way he strains for the word "free," and the way that the word "fallin'" totally topples the initial sense of "free." it's also a neat trick when campbell's chomping electric guitar drives home the little syncopation that the acoustic guitar's been doing all along.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 10 June 2024 15:49 (two weeks ago) link

After the heroin revelations, I'm struck by the lyrics to this song: verse is a story song about a girl, like "American Girl" or "Magnolia," but the pre-chorus and chorus seems to then go into a first-person description of being high on opiates.

drew in baltimore, Monday, 10 June 2024 16:15 (two weeks ago) link

This is some years before his opiate phase, at least by his account. "Zombie Zoo" later in the album makes him seem like mostly a tourist to LA grime.

Let's keep in mind: "Free Fallin'" was the third single after, in order, "I Won't Back Down" and "Runnin' Down a Dream."

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2024 17:08 (two weeks ago) link

its really slow. that beat is so slow. its slow and minimal. though there is a lot going on. it doesn't feel like a lot when you hear it. that voice just carries the whole thing. if you hear it in a car that voice just cuts through everything. i'll bet a lot of country singers and songwriters were like, damn, i want that song. how do i write a song like that? they had to be jealous.

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 17:23 (two weeks ago) link

before i forget...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9iAqzfJ9Gw

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 17:23 (two weeks ago) link

and then there is...this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLFcMddsWOI

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 17:25 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pie-fumrkRM

brimstead, Monday, 10 June 2024 17:29 (two weeks ago) link

otm

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2024 17:40 (two weeks ago) link

this is a very popular song for african-american reaction video people to listen to and declare a masterpiece.

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2024 17:52 (two weeks ago) link

Pimp C and Bun B have the best taste in white music

Heez, Monday, 10 June 2024 18:12 (two weeks ago) link

Free Fallin' is fantastic imho. As usual Tom's having trouble keeping the lyric entirely on topic from line to line, but this is one of the ones where that ends up working well for the ineffable feelings being captured. The situation(s) he sketches out all do seem, somehow, to tie into that powerful central free/freefall shift.

The "nothing" that he's falling out into now reminds me of the darkness out the window of that 747...

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 01:50 (two weeks ago) link

Yes! I was thinking that too.

And even my favorite lyric from "Even the Losers" - "two cars parked on the overpass/ rocks hit the water like broken glass" - has you looking down from a height.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 02:36 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, that free/freefall shift is amazing, there's nothing like it. This song can't really be overplayed for me; every time I hear the "free" turn into "freefallin" I feel like a cartoon character who is running in midair and has just looked down.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 02:43 (two weeks ago) link

In Lynne's favor, Petty's vocals sound amazing, one of his best performances.

xp And it is the same nothing, isn't it? Like, it's essentially the same story. There was a girl, he stopped wanting to be with her, and then he followed this perfectly normal need for freedom out to its logical conclusion, out over the edge of the earth into nothingness. The difference is just that this is a truly great pop song, with that quality of feeling intensely alive no matter how dark the material is.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 02:59 (two weeks ago) link

It's also an existential update of a classic Petty theme - everything good haunted by its dark side, every happy relationship tinted by its inevitable doom. Here the end of the relationship, poses "freedom" that turns out to be, potentially, oblivion.

The instrumental track is the right match, too - just gentle enough, just uplifting enough, that you can choose to push back the darkness, roll the top down and cruise down the highway on the "free" side of things. Lots of space for Petty's echoing but newly plainspoken and super clear voice. The drumming is, as in Traveling Wilburys, a little bit robotic and demo-like, but the few special touches (like the change-up for the last verse) count for a lot.

I can see, in the abstract, that someone could object to those warm pulses of pasted-in Lynne backing vocals, duplicating the rhythm guitar part, but... Nah, they're great!

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 03:02 (two weeks ago) link

love that post, LD.

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 03:03 (two weeks ago) link

I Won't Back Down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlTJrNJ5lA

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 13:02 (two weeks ago) link

another one that country songwriters could marvel at. at the economy and supreme catchiness. you could write a hundred songs and never write anything this inevitable.

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 13:12 (two weeks ago) link

Mike Campbell playing a perfect imitation Harrison slide part

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 13:14 (two weeks ago) link


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