FMF went top ten in the UK, but, yeah, I believe Sam Smith.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 18:49 (two months ago) link
i know we already had this moment but i'm never not swept away by 'free fallin' even though like everyone i've heard it so many times. lily dale's last post about it is perfect. also one of the great l.a. songs. the twelve-string solo section still shocks. not even r.e.m. got so obvious about loving the byrds.
'i won't back down' always moves me too. petty's underdog persona. doing the right thing in spite of the world beating you up. nothing generic about it, just universal. the older i get the more i love it.
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 18:49 (two months ago) link
as far as sam smith goes, i have good will toward him. i don't think i've actually heard the song though? idk. i'm glad he's having the career he's having. boo the straight version of sam smith, the shape of you guy whose name i can't remember atm, though. fuck that guy.
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 18:52 (two months ago) link
i saw the "latch" youtube embed and had to double check what thread i was in lol
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 18:58 (two months ago) link
Tom Petty and Mike Campbell singing "Latch" sure would've been something!
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 19:00 (two months ago) link
Irving “been drinking his” Azoff
― Heez, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 19:50 (two months ago) link
Never heard that Sam Smith song before, but if that's all it takes to lose 12.5% of songwriting, I'm surprised modern pop singers have any money left. I could totally believe that he never heard that song, and the similarity was coincidental. There are only so many combinations of 3-note phrases over common chord progressions.
― enochroot, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 23:59 (two months ago) link
it was bullshit
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 00:17 (two months ago) link
booming map posts btw
I like the Johnny Cash cover
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 03:06 (two months ago) link
Love Is A Long Road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AilA-M6N5U
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 12:26 (two months ago) link
this one got a major boost from its inclusion in the first trailer for grand theft auto vi last year. now one of his top 5 on spotify.
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 12:31 (two months ago) link
this is one where lynne’s production really works for me
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 12:34 (two months ago) link
ha, I wondered why Spotify had it so high.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 12:36 (two months ago) link
Solid album track IMHO, very much playing to Petty's strengths --- I feel like it could have easily shown up on Hard Promises. Maybe it's the searing guitar lines, or the "loooooooove" vocals (which take me back to "A Woman in Love"). Or, in terms of general early-80s vibes, the way that opening riff sounds quite a bit like Billy's "All For Leyna." And there's just a pinch of Petty's old strangled delivery ("to try and save my soul!"), appropriately used to convey the desperation described in the lyric. Happy to see him using this project to get back in touch with his home base, even while he tries on a fresh 90s sound elsewhere.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 12:53 (two months ago) link
sort of late who-esque? very classic rock. something about the synth and the steady bpm.
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 12:58 (two months ago) link
it really does just remind me of "a woman in love". not in a bad way. but that's the first thing i think of when i hear it.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 13:56 (two months ago) link
A Face In The Crowd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_umeMtV4QU
― scott seward, Thursday, 13 June 2024 13:22 (two months ago) link
so what you're saying is: this album rules.
i can still hear this song in Walgreens and i'm okay with that. its a good song.
― scott seward, Thursday, 13 June 2024 13:24 (two months ago) link
seriously though Runnin' is next which makes this 5 really good songs in a row.
― scott seward, Thursday, 13 June 2024 13:25 (two months ago) link
Out in the streetsThinking aloud
― Heez, Thursday, 13 June 2024 14:01 (two months ago) link
I’m all about that simple 3 note guitar part in the chorus
― Heez, Thursday, 13 June 2024 14:02 (two months ago) link
yeah side 1 of this album whips
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 June 2024 14:20 (two months ago) link
I don't love either of the last two, they're fine but feel more like sketches. But that's also how I feel about a lot of the album, obviously the legions who made it his best-selling record didn't see it that way.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 13 June 2024 14:47 (two months ago) link
nice warm 12-string bath at 2:10.
― Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 13 June 2024 15:34 (two months ago) link
That three-note hook is creepily hypnotic. Sinister.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 June 2024 15:42 (two months ago) link
god i love petty when he's sad and galaxy brained. this one reminds me of "it's good to be king" on wildflowers. so morose.
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Thursday, 13 June 2024 15:50 (two months ago) link
jeez "Love Is A Long Road" is more of a Tom Petty ripoff than that Sam Smith song! I feel like someone should have pulled him aside regarding that chorus.
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 13 June 2024 15:50 (two months ago) link
so far this first side reminds me of this space i've been in where i'm years-deep into a relationship and things are getting hard and confusing and really real and i'm doing a lot of self-excavating and ending up in these places where i'm asking myself "what's the point", going deep in the deep end and holding my breath too much. also maybe depressed. i haven't been good about keeping up with this thread so i wonder if there were traces of his depression in the music before this album.
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Thursday, 13 June 2024 15:56 (two months ago) link
but god he made some glorious and brilliant 'i'm actually depressed' songs. my favorite tom mode. wildflowers has some great ones. i was thinking i can't wait until we get to that one because i'm actually familiar with it. one thing about wildflowers though is he's really weird about women on it. like he can't help turning into his dad or something.
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:00 (two months ago) link
― he/him hoo-hah (map)
I had no idea -- I can hear the sonic connection.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:10 (two months ago) link
booming posts, amp
*map
thanks :)
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:25 (two months ago) link
re: Depression in Petty's lyrics - I think "Straight into Darkness" fits the bill.
"Face in the Crowd" - agreed about that three-note guitar figure. The Lynne signatur of a steady, brightly chugging drum track is a little distracting here. Something about this is a little too clean and "pro" for me. Oddly it almost makes me think of a deep cut on one of the last couple REM albums. It's an okay song though. I'm surprised to realize it doesn't close out Side A!
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Friday, 14 June 2024 11:14 (two months ago) link
side one isn’t over until you hear “hello cd listeners…”
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 June 2024 12:05 (two months ago) link
Runnin' Down A Dream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1D3a5eDJIs
― scott seward, Friday, 14 June 2024 12:07 (two months ago) link
great driving song, nice fast pace -- there'd better not be any traffic when this one comes on. focused lyrics. some actual interaction between the solo guitar and the drums. there's one point durint the (excellent) solo where i could swear he borrows a johnny thunders lick.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 14 June 2024 12:24 (two months ago) link
campbell’s best solo
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 June 2024 12:27 (two months ago) link
is “runnin down a dream” the last-ever classic rock song? dont mean “modern” rock songs that get play on classic rock radio. feel like this is an endpoint for that entire era
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 June 2024 12:30 (two months ago) link
unless it’s “mary jane’s last dance” haha, though that one has more in common with the adult alternative hits of its time
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 June 2024 12:31 (two months ago) link
That riff is so basic and feels so primal that it's hard to believe nobody ever built a song around it before. (Or maybe they did, god knows there's plenty of blooz-rock I've never heard.) So good. And yeah, the solo is terrific. Petty is good here, nice vocal and the lyrics work, but Campbell is the star imo.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 14 June 2024 13:22 (two months ago) link
Plus as a Winsor McCay aficionado I like the video.
it's sort of the "dazed & confused" riff sped up.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 14 June 2024 13:25 (two months ago) link
"it's hard to believe nobody ever built a song around it before" is the Petty credo imo
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 June 2024 13:32 (two months ago) link
yeah this one rocks. otm about the interaction between guitar and drums --- this is still very locked-down rhythmically, but absolutely conveys a band enjoying rockin' out with a rockin' riff, and it is absolutely perfect highway music. Petty's delivery is beautiful, too, especially on "The last three days, the rain was unstoppable." secretly the best hook of the song, next to that brilliantly focused little riff. i shudder to imagine a younger Petty squeezing that line out in Bobcat Dylanthwait mode.
"last classic rock" song is fascinating. looking at some of the year-end charts, I think the only competition might be "Mixed Emotions" and the Pump singles (all 1989) and maybe "Blaze of Glory," "Black Velvet" and "Hard to Handle" (1990), though I can no longer remember if classic rock stations used to play those. out of all of them, "Running Down a Dream" seems closest to the center of the format, and surely wins out on recurrent spins, ime. in any case, i've long felt Petty was definitely the last classic rock artist - I think this maybe got discussed in the run-up to the classic rock ballot poll.
have also long meant to start a thread asking what kind of "mystery" we think Tom Petty is "working on" in this song. it'd be good theme music for a juiced-up new Hardy Boys TV series, that's for sure.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Friday, 14 June 2024 13:41 (two months ago) link
love the strumming responses in the chorus. and yeah the outro solo is one of those transcendent ones that makes it seem like there are a billion chord changes or something… and such a feel.
― brimstead, Friday, 14 June 2024 13:45 (two months ago) link
As a kid I thought the lyric was “born wherever it leads”, like he was describing some cliche crime fiction thing
the strumming responses are sililar to "queen of hearts."
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 14 June 2024 13:48 (two months ago) link
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