this is really nice -- byrds feel, with an almost "meet on the ledge" depth.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 12:12 (two months ago) link
Oops, I've gotten terribly behind! These last four are all at least passable album tracks, though "All the Wrong Reasons" really has no reason to exist. Agreed that the moments when the guitar gets to shine on "Too Good to be True" are highlights.
"Out in the Cold" is sort of best-case scenario for the band finding a midpoint between their classic sound and Lynne's. His fingerprints are all over it, but he's not keeping them from doing *anything* interesting. And it's just got good solid new-wave rocker bones.
"You and I Will Meet Again" is also going over well with me. The recurring spidery guitar/drum figure is a great little background hook. And the big buildup after 2:30 or so is really satisfying! I wish it hit one big finish instead of fading out, but it's great stuff. This album might be rallying on Side B after all!
― the last visible dot (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 16:59 (two months ago) link
The organ is the best part of "You and I..." but it's a pretty good song overall. This album is really front-loaded with suck, but it's definitely improving.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 17:06 (two months ago) link
told y'all to stick with the second side!
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 17:09 (two months ago) link
Makin' Some Noise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsbZTStV2kQ
― scott seward, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 12:03 (two months ago) link
solid filler action! don't think I have ever heard this one.
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 14:51 (two months ago) link
The guitars snarl!
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 14:54 (two months ago) link
gettin' his steve tyler on.
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 15:21 (two months ago) link
Sounds like the Black Keys. This would be a good candidate for the "fiction vs non-fiction music" thread.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 15:28 (two months ago) link
Fun rave-up, not much to it but he sells it. Snarling guitars definitely help.
― Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 16:04 (two months ago) link
Also, I missed "You and I Will Meet Again," but I like that one. I had to check the credits to see if McGuinn was on backing vox (nope, he's on "All the Wrong Reasons"), because this sounds like a latter-day McGuinn tune to me.
― Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 16:06 (two months ago) link
lol maybe it's cause I just caught the video for "Chattahoochee" but I'm getting a lot of New Country here. bolted on to a super solid, propulsive New Wave chassis. this sounds good! very hooky, even if Petty's chorus itself isn't really much of a hook. love that squiggly skronky solo!
― the last visible dot (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 July 2024 04:17 (two months ago) link
Built To Last
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjJtzjVz8UE
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:11 (two months ago) link
Now, here's where the Petty-Lynne collaboration create something innaresting. I like Lynne's chorus harmonies. Another shimmer of a Campbell solo.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:28 (two months ago) link
Agreed about those harmonies! This is lovely. Lush. The particular version of retro here almost makes me think of much later indie stuff like, idk, Mirage or Friends or Caroline Rose. But it's more like if An Innocent Man had more rock-band DNA. It's a good fit for them, and they fill it out with some really nice surprises along the way. Good songwriting too.
The rhythm section is still ludicrously locked in place, but maybe Lynch was at least glad to have a break from just going Boom-chunk, Boom-chunk in 4/4 for three straight minutes.
Overall, yeah, I feel like this album rallied big time. I'll give it another listen tho and see how it hangs together as a piece.
― the last visible dot (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 July 2024 12:59 (two months ago) link
that slide (or pedal steel?) action here is real sweet
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 11 July 2024 14:39 (two months ago) link
and wah-wah pedal, no?
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2024 14:50 (two months ago) link
I haven't changed my mind about Into the Great Wide Open. A fine album. I don't need "The Dark of the Sun," "All or Nothin'," or the title track.
now that we're done with into the great wide open, it is safe to post the dog who looks like jeff lynne
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwFcM8bXEAEOUWg?format=png&name=small
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 July 2024 15:02 (two months ago) link
excellent content tyvm
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 11 July 2024 15:03 (two months ago) link
nice song but i don't love his funny-not-funny voice. he should have sung it straight. roy orbison would have done a nice job with this. or chris isaac.
― Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 11 July 2024 16:12 (two months ago) link
I've always assumed the "Stand By Me" echoes here are intentional, yes? Especially since it had just gone top 10 again a few years earlier. It's a nice song. Still not too much of a chorus, I feel like there aren't a whole lot of real hooky songs on the album overall.
Anyway, as mentioned above, here's the McGuinn-Petty song from earlier the same year. I like this one. I think all the Heartbreakers except Epstein are on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iupUmLy7NoE
― Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 11 July 2024 18:49 (two months ago) link
The Bogdanovnich doc has an embarrassing scene where Tom Petty scolds McGuinn and a hotshot young producer for accepting a song Petty thinks is garbage and beneath McGuinn.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2024 18:51 (two months ago) link
Ha. That McGuinn album does have some clunkers. It's not bad tho.
― Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 11 July 2024 18:55 (two months ago) link
I like his version of this EC song better than EC's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTWb8aQ6yzM
― Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 11 July 2024 18:58 (two months ago) link
My dad loves that McGuinn album, it does have some incredible stuff. “If we ever meet again”
― brimstead, Thursday, 11 July 2024 19:02 (two months ago) link
Yeah, this album definitely works better as a whole. When you know the last few tracks are going to loosen up and rock out, then "Learning to Fly" and "Kings Highway" play like a classic one-two-punch. It's solid mid-career work, not essential but mostly enjoyable and in good spirits.
Alfred, I'd agree with your cuts, but spare "Dark of the Sun" and drop "Two Gunslingers."
― the last visible dot (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 July 2024 19:08 (two months ago) link
Am I mistaken or did "King of the Hill" get MTV play in 1991?
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2024 19:12 (two months ago) link
Yeah, I remember seeing it.
― Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 11 July 2024 19:17 (two months ago) link
agree Dr Casino, I enjoyed this album more on revisiting, some tunes I forgot about and the title track doesn’t have as much of that “stuck in traffic in a hot car “ vibe I got from them it as a kid On Back to Rio, the song “car phone” has a voiceover by Kimmy Robertson (Lucy on Twin Peaks)
― brimstead, Thursday, 11 July 2024 19:20 (two months ago) link
Her and Stan Ridgway! (On a Mike Campbell co-write)
― Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 11 July 2024 19:47 (two months ago) link
The sleeve is horrendous.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2024 19:47 (two months ago) link
haha I was literally just thinking that, what is it even supposed to be? A flower growing from Rio? Looks ... anatomical.
― Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 11 July 2024 19:54 (two months ago) link
Love “King of the Hill.”
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 11 July 2024 20:31 (two months ago) link
heh I remember that. Shuddered at Mcguinn’s mullet
― brimstead, Thursday, 11 July 2024 21:27 (two months ago) link
i wonder if Petty worked on that McGuinn album because during the Wilburies era, McGuinn was like, "hey did you guys lose my number or something???"
"king of the hill" is pretty good — I definitely saw the video on MTV and/or Vh1 back in the day.
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 July 2024 21:31 (two months ago) link
He did! He cowrote "Hill."
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2024 21:52 (two months ago) link
sorry, my post wasn't worded well — i knew that
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 July 2024 22:15 (two months ago) link
anyway, i'm surprised that people seem to dislike Into The Great Wide Open so much! Might be that it came out during the height of my fandom, but I think it's solid — maybe a little lazy / uninspired in parts, but pretty strong for an album that's 15 years into a songwriter's career.
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 July 2024 22:17 (two months ago) link
otm
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2024 22:21 (two months ago) link
i see it was mentioned at the start of this thread, but this tune (falling through the cracks between Full Moon Fever and Great Wide Open) deserves a little more mention:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQC59EUom-k
When it came out on the Playback set, I couldn't believe they'd just tossed it aside — could've been a total radio hit in 1990. Maybe a more successful melding of the Full Moon Fever style with the Heartbreakers.
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 July 2024 22:26 (two months ago) link
I absolutely love this jam. It sounds like it was recorded in 1999. The Bangles harmonies are next-level.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2024 22:39 (two months ago) link
In the Zollo book Petty couldn't stop gushing about what a good studio experience it was with them.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2024 22:40 (two months ago) link
yeah it does sorta sound like it predicts an entire strain of 1990s pop-rock
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 July 2024 22:46 (two months ago) link
He should've recorded a few more like this
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2024 22:48 (two months ago) link
It sounds like it was recorded in 1999.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 12 July 2024 10:47 (two months ago) link
Mary Jane's Last Dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aowSGxim_O8
Something in the Air
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OUCpKzMAbQ
― scott seward, Friday, 12 July 2024 11:35 (two months ago) link
i would just like to say for the record that the picture quality of the mary jane video on tom petty's youtube channel is EXCELLENT. looks like a million bucks.
― scott seward, Friday, 12 July 2024 11:36 (two months ago) link
i would also like to say for the record that i totally forgot about the second Wilburys album from 1990. oops! i guess i can backtrack on monday...
― scott seward, Friday, 12 July 2024 11:42 (two months ago) link
xp it is what 90s kim basinger deserves
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 12 July 2024 11:50 (two months ago) link