― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― steve hise, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 13:57 (nineteen years ago) link
There's a thread in the archive on this very subject.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link
Taking sides : Zeppelin or Sabbath
Taking Sides: Led Zeppelin Vol. 4 vs. Black Sabbath Vol.4
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyways one of the best love songs of all time is "Sweet Leaf."
― steve hise, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link
robert christgau
― elrod hendrix, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― 57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link
yeah, he just made my case. if there were a meter for classic, the red part would go 0 +1 +2 BLACK SABBATH.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― sleep (sleep), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― sleep (sleep), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link
My favorite all time UNDER-mentioned Sab songs: "Hand of Doom" "A National Acrobat" "The Thrill Of It All" "Junior's Eyes"
― pheNAM (pheNAM), Thursday, 28 October 2004 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link
-- steve hise (shistee...), October 27th, 2004.
Sweat Loaf comes ridiculously close to bettering it though.
― Piers (piers), Thursday, 28 October 2004 05:44 (nineteen years ago) link
OK, unless you're really not into heavy rock or metal. Is this the case for you Myonga?
― Piers (piers), Thursday, 28 October 2004 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link
[I couldn't believe that Sabbath even deserved the classic/dud treatment, because I couldn't believe that ANYONE considered 'em duds. I was gonna post an are-you-kidding? reply immediately after my "DUD" assessment. But just before I did, I read Xgau's little blurb about "drug-impaired reaction time" and thought it would be HIGH-larious to wait awhile before changing my opinion, then finally changing it FOR REAL, and then blaming my long delay on...yep, you guessed it! It might've been funnier if I'd waited a day or two, but I've always been terribly impatient.]
Anyway, again, CLASSIC through first six albums; and even the inferior Dio and Gillan lineups produced a great LP between 'em.
Finally, one of these days I'm going to finally buy Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die, just to see if they're really as bad as they're reputed.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 28 October 2004 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), October 27th, 2004.
-- Myonga Von Bontee (scottyfield...), October 28th, 2004.
Never heard Technical Ecstacy, but Never Say Die is grebt for the:
- Cover art - Title track - The start of 'Air Dance'
The rest is decent, listenable stuff, just not as good as what came before (and it's got synths, not that that's necessarily a bad thing).
― Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 28 October 2004 06:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Piers (piers), Thursday, 28 October 2004 07:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 October 2004 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sasha on a different PC, Friday, 29 October 2004 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Please someone tell me they know the two songs on "The Ozzman Cometh" comp: "Black Sabbath" ('70 Basement Tapes) and "War Pigs" (1970 Basement Tapes).
Both of these songs are clear evidence that BIMBLE IS MORE GOTH THAN YOU.
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 21 September 2008 04:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Um there's actually more than two basement tapes on that comp (if you get the 2xcd version). Don't forget the awesome versions of "Fairies Wear Boots" and "Behind the Wall of Sleep".
I love the production of those tunes and all the alternate lyrics and verses. Total godhead.
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 21 September 2008 09:08 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah I will have to get the 2xCD version.
A goth's work is never done.
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 21 September 2008 09:37 (sixteen years ago) link
is that "war pigs" the "walpurgis" version with the satan/witch themed lyrics? i love that.
― REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 21 September 2008 10:08 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah that's what it is, dude.
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 21 September 2008 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link
― Moka, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link
That...
Just... No. Ugh.
― novaheat, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:58 (fifteen years ago) link
<3 cindy und bert <3
― cuisine of demise (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Dehumanize is good too people.
― III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Monday, 6 April 2009 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link
heaven & hell did a dehumanizer song that was pretty good. i only knew it was dehumanizer because they put the cover to that album up on the big video screen
― d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 6 April 2009 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Probably Computer God. Maybe TV Crimes.
― Bill Magill, Monday, 6 April 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Back in 2007 Heaven and Hell played "After All (The Dead)", "Computer God", and "I"...the latter of which sounded really great. That song's held up very well.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 6 April 2009 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link
I is definitely great. I don't know if they played Computer God at the Radio City show I was at.
― Bill Magill, Monday, 6 April 2009 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link
You've got to be kidding me.
http://www.reuters.com/article/peopleNews/idUSTRE54T00420090531
Advantage: Iommi.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link
The reaction on dffd and probably all the other boards was "Sharon Is A Cunt"
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link
that should infact be a poll
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link
poll w/ one option
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link
im sure theres x-factor viewers on ILX who like her. but someone do it to find out!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link
You're it Herm, i have no idea how to do it.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
you click on where it says new pollhttp://www.ilxor.com/ILX/Poll/EnterPollInformationControllerServlet?boardid=41
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Instead of that, I'll just say that the vocals have always been the least important of the idea and ethos of what is "Black Sabbath". In Sabbath, it's:
mountain-moving guitar riffs and sound > thunderous but suprisingly agile rythym section >>>>>>>>> whoever the fuck is singing the lyrics the bassist wrote. Sorry Ozzy, but you now officially suck.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link
If as Ozzy alleges Iommi's trying to claim "ownership" of the Sabbath name, why would he be recording and touring as Heaven and Hell?
― Plunge Protection Team, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Iommi bought the name from the others in the '90s, plus he copyrighted it in 2000. Game, set, match. Just cuz he's touring with another name doesnt mean shit, if you're implying he waived his rights.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Deciblog has a good take:
http://decibelmagazine.com/Content.aspx?ncid=306741
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link
from thatPosted 6/2/2009 2:13 PM by Senile Animal
Sharon Osbourne = Cunt!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
holy shit, that statement by Ozzy. The brand was "literally in the toilet". Is this Kiss, who probably did sell toilets with the Kiss insignia, or Black Sabbath?
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I doubt Ozzy can even go to the toilet without Sharon's permission/Help.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Somebody please shoot the man. Put him out of his misery.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I’m sure there’s a thread about this very thing but the differential between the cover of Sabotage (aggressively terrible) vs the content (absolutely rad and on any given day could be my fave) is stark
― OG Bob Sacamano (will), Sunday, 1 May 2022 23:00 (two years ago) link
I don't know what you're talking about LOL
https://dx72k0ec4onep.cloudfront.net/product/1616/282536311478247228-640x640-5414939920837.jpg
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 1 May 2022 23:04 (two years ago) link
Home in the skyyy-iyyyy
― calstars, Sunday, 1 May 2022 23:05 (two years ago) link
Bill Ward did not know they were shooting the cover that day.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 1 May 2022 23:17 (two years ago) link
Ozzy looks great though.
― Was Hitler a Hobbit? (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 May 2022 23:18 (two years ago) link
6’ 6” in heels
― calstars, Sunday, 1 May 2022 23:22 (two years ago) link
has ilx ever polled black sabbath album covers?
for the record those tights are rad. versus who's the guy on the left in chino pants? is that geezer butler? dud. i mean they all look awful next to ozzy of course but bill is the second best looking guy on that cover, he's got this weird elfin energy that sums up sabbath's aesthetic really well
btw ums i have enjoyed that weird psych band sabbath comp you put together for... i don't know. probably more than a decade, now? but planet caravan is still in a class by itself.
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 2 May 2022 04:05 (two years ago) link
Supertzar? I guess it…doesn’t have drums
― calstars, Sunday, May 1, 2022 4:53 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Great to be back
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 May 2022 13:32 (two years ago) link
Yeah, that's Geezer in the chinos and the giant ass cross, which is typically Tony's look.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 2 May 2022 13:38 (two years ago) link
Heels or no heels, I've stood next to Ozzy, and based on that, the other guys in Sabbath must be fucking dwarves. I'm not a giant, — I'm 6'2" — and he's supposedly 5'10" but I think he's at least two inches shorter than that. (He was wearing old-man velcro sneakers at the time.)
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 2 May 2022 14:37 (two years ago) link
He might well be shrinking
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 2 May 2022 19:02 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6GTf6rOepQ
― calstars, Thursday, 5 May 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link
Jazz Sabbath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qcr708w1HY
oh yes
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 December 2022 11:50 (one year ago) link
This is Geezer Butler- he wrote this!
― The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 December 2022 11:53 (one year ago) link
Jizz Sabbath
― calstars, Friday, 2 December 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link
sorry i think you will find the true story on their Bandcamp page:
Jazz Sabbath (1968) were considered to be at the forefront of the new English jazz movement. Their self-titled debut album would be released on 13 Feb 1970, but on Feb 12th founding member and pianist Milton Keanes was hospitalised with a massive heart attack; leaving him fighting for his life. The record company shelved the album and cancelled the scheduled release out of financial uncertainty of releasing a debut album from a band without its musical leader. When Milton was released from hospital in September 1970, he found out that a band from Birmingham, conveniently called ‘Black Sabbath’, had since released two albums containing so-called metal versions of his songs. His recalled albums had been destroyed in a warehouse fire in June 1970; leaving only a few bootleg tapes of Jazz Sabbath’s live performances as proof of existence. The master tapes, believed to be lost in the fire, were found in 2019. These songs will now finally be heard; proving that the heavy metal band worshipped by millions are in fact nothing more than musical charlatans, thieving the music from a bedridden, hospitalised genius.
When Milton was released from hospital in September 1970, he found out that a band from Birmingham, conveniently called ‘Black Sabbath’, had since released two albums containing so-called metal versions of his songs. His recalled albums had been destroyed in a warehouse fire in June 1970; leaving only a few bootleg tapes of Jazz Sabbath’s live performances as proof of existence.
The master tapes, believed to be lost in the fire, were found in 2019. These songs will now finally be heard; proving that the heavy metal band worshipped by millions are in fact nothing more than musical charlatans, thieving the music from a bedridden, hospitalised genius.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 December 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link
Black Challops
― calstars, Friday, 2 December 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link
Lmao James
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 December 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link
That version of Iron Man is pretty awesome
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Friday, 2 December 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2023/feb/08/black-sabbath-ballet-to-be-staged-in-birmingham
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link
Supernaut is their most funky
― calstars, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:39 (five months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/oKqx0Dd.jpegWas it illusion ???
― calstars, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:42 (five months ago) link
The Wizard, maybe. But Supernaut fucking kills.
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 07:59 (five months ago) link
the coda of Sympton of the Universe is a good candidate too, in fact that whole track is funky!
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 09:22 (five months ago) link
I dig the funkiness of "Behind the Wall of Sleep." They may have enough for a Funk Sabbath compilation.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:13 (five months ago) link
there's a compilation I have on Spotify made by Andrew Male called "Brown Sabbath" which is a selection of their acid-folk hippy trippy stuff
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:16 (five months ago) link
that's much better than what I thought it would be
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:19 (five months ago) link
haha indeed
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:21 (five months ago) link
Supernaut wins the Funk Sabbath contest through the cod-Latin section in the breakdown
― the scouse that roared (Matt #2), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:27 (five months ago) link
who is this andrew male mf jacking my playlist idea
I made "We Sail Through Endless Skies: The Quiet Black Sabbath Album", check it.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:29 (five months ago) link
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, April 16, 2024 8:16 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
here's a link because this was surprisingly difficult to find for me
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Oj4COp422cODysqXbEhK4
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:45 (five months ago) link
UMS i will A/B the two
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:52 (five months ago) link
thanks, should have posted the link!
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:12 (five months ago) link
xxxp nice, there's a lot of crossover between the playlists as you might expect
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:14 (five months ago) link
ha seems like we've hit a "infinite monkeys/typewriters" of black sabbath playlists with this
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:40 (five months ago) link
I thought there was a Brown Sabbath cover band doing Latin funk versions of songs. Were around a few years ago saw links to their material may have even got a set off Dime. Now wondering if that was what they were called. Latin and Black players who I thought were reworking Sabbath tracks among others
― Stevo, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:53 (five months ago) link
Project of a band called Brownout
― Stevo, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:55 (five months ago) link
Brown Sabbath is the name of that band, I thought it worked pretty well overall
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:13 (five months ago) link
And you could make a playlist maybe of the hooky psych power pop of the chorus of Looking for Today or the entirety Am I Going Insane
― President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:21 (five months ago) link
this kind of rules
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifwvsYKuYRw
― budo jeru, Thursday, 2 May 2024 18:42 (four months ago) link
sh1t sandwich
― calstars, Friday, 3 May 2024 01:23 (four months ago) link
they cahn't print that
― RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 May 2024 01:35 (four months ago) link