"this shit is immortal" they say

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1/ hot hot heat "aveda"

this sounds kind of like 2nd string britpop, the singer reminds me ov er someone quite strongly, but i can't remember who exactly. It's ok, but not too great, really.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm listening to thee free cd that comes w/ issue 2 ov "bang magazine". I want to hear something good.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

2/the darkness "the best of me"

this = sux0r. I cannot believe the hype this mag is pushing on thiz band. It is really fukcing dreary pub metal.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

"this shit is immortal" is the title of the cd

the darkness are playing aguitar solo thee like of which i have heard 1000000 times in pubs in newcastle. if this lot hit big, the copyists will be legion

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

3/ the electric six "naked pictures"

Obviously there is a second rate cock rock revival on the go at present. This sounds like late period hanoi rocks, except thee singer /= k-rowr. I hope it gets better than this.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

4/gold chains "code red" 'yeah we're calling code red on so-soy-e-tee'. Shit & w/o merit as far as i can see.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

5/ladytron "blue jeans"

this is more like it, in fact this is fukcing great! At last!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I noticed that some of the bands covered in the latest issue have this revivalist near-tribute band thing going on, like the warlocks for example. They are almost like some jazz revival band playing in the style ov eg chris barber. it's pretty weird, like the death ov rock or s.th

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

mellotron flute on ladytron rekkid is *nice*!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

6/ interpol "roland"

fuck, th1s sounds *exactly* like joy division "unknown pleasures" track!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean I quite like it, but blimey, revivalist/tribute again!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

looking thru magazine, they are still running k-unphunny "the poke" feature. drop it pleae, it's so bad i almost feel sorry for it

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

interpol was ok actually, i'd probably buy their reekid if i saw it in a bargain bin, which is damming w/phaint praise I know, but still....

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

7/postal service "such great heights" - nice backing, but i don't like the vox.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

don't bother norman (irt interpol)

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

what not even if its one quid @ a market stall?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Keep it coming Normina, is the CD over already??

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I must admit, ladytron aside, it's all a bit underwhelming. I wanted to hear stuff I wd either rush out & buy rekkids by, or wd hate & want to avoid forever.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

from the title somehow I thought this had to be a hip-hop thread, dunno why ...

robin carmody (robin carmody), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

seven trax to go tracer!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay, it's RobiN!! Not nearly enough of you round these parts, man!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

8/brendan benson "you're quiet"

this is, y'know, pleasant. It makes me want to put on "Terror couple kill colonel" really loud.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

like: I thought only hip-hop people would use such an egotistical title these days

robin carmody (robin carmody), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

(Threads like this should be more common.)

Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I really wanted to hear this cd, b/c all i listen(ed) to on thee radio is sara cox & tim westwood, & not even that since some charver broke thee aerial off my car

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

(new front pads & discs = 117 pounds to-day, gah)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

9/james mercer of the shins "the past and pending(live)"

this is actually quite nice, in a kind of maudlin sub-cnsy way. I'm a sucker for that sort ov backing vox, tho.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

hello Norman! indeed I have returned ...

robin carmody (robin carmody), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Interpol.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

in a *really* broadly generalising way, most of the bands so far sound kind of "british", tho' they're nearly all amerikan. the james mercer track is the first that actually sounds like american musick.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

well, i liked the track, and i thought they looked kind ov k3wl in their threads & ith rickenbackers in the last issue, but i was amazed at how close they got to the joy div sound!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

sad to hear about your radio mishap, Norman. I still think your Westwood thread late last year is the finest piece of writing about the man, and one of the finest about the visceral impact of great radio.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm just trying to get back onto the"statscock" for the first time in, like 2 yrs really

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

10/ the flaming lips "it's summertime"

this is thee only band i'd heard before so far, it's ok, i sppose, but the singer's voice is kind of annoying in its whiny way.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

they should have dropped in something really old and headfucking that no-one wd have heard of, like rod mckuen and the san sebastian strings.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

11/polyphonic spree "light and day" (the bees remix)

does the original have the k-lame limp reggae beat behind it? It's a bit naff. I dunno if it represents the band at all, it's just this meh bit of sub-dub, with a bit of the vocals dropped in, with too much noise gate applied.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

well, i liked the track, and i thought they looked kind ov k3wl in their threads & ith rickenbackers in the last issue, but i was amazed at how close they got to the joy div sound!

Yeah, they basically sound like a Joy Division tribute band, which is alright by me because, really, I see no need for bands not to sound exactly like Joy Division. I think "Leif Erickson" is a better song than "Roland", FYI if you actually care.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

thx robin, i should perhaps stick an old wire coathanger into the socket where the aerial was, so i can listen to pop again, instead of this stuff.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

thx ally, i'll listen out for that one

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

12/ webb bros "who wants to get high"

this is mediocre but frustrating, like it's got some nice bits, but it sounds like they could barely be bothered to make it. plus there's all these crescendos, but the rekkid is so compressed that they kind of stay at the same level.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

2 tracks to go!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

the singer (webb bros is fading out reall slowly) is kind of over-emoting, but slackly. it's a bit crap i've decided.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

(Just out today, n[]rm4n?)

Cozen (Cozen), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

13/glassjaw "el mark"

"ATDI may be a fond memory now" sez the little bit in the magazine. Pah, in your world maybe, mr bang writer, but in mine, they were the most boring, 1-dimensional live mand i've ever seen. This is really, really awful. It's like they're trying to be extreme, but the production is too mor, and the band resoluttely does not rock. Pah, they should listen to tidfall or antiorp.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

i bought it yesterday, b/c i wanted to read something on the bus (car off road coz ov fux0red brakes, see above) and I'd already got sound on sound & terrorizer. I was too shagged out to liten to it yesterday.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)

are "the apes" any good? their review made them sound kind ov inneresting

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

likewise "imitation electric piano"?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

the apes = frustrating cuz live they can be either really great or shit but on record it's almost always shit

webb brothers are on a comp??? that record came out AGES ago (and wuz awful)

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

last track - the bandits "free me rain", again, pleasant, but totally uninvolving. Ah well, 1.5/14 - I'll buy ladytron's rekkid, certainly, their track i'd have really enjoyed even if everything else on thee cd had been good, plus, i'll check out interpol, i mean i like IQ, and they knock off old-style genesis quite shamefully sometimes, so i shouldn't feel too guilty abt liking a joy div knock off, because i really like joy div as well.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

too much of this stuff is totally in thrall to old bands, i think. A lot of it sounds like 4th on the bill at the Penge blues and progressive festival, 1974 type bands, and i think that's a bit sad. as mentioned above, it reminds me of some kind ov jazz revival thing. Sorry, i didn't have much of interest to report, but a lot of the cd just isn't very interesting. Ladytron really stood out for me, not just coz it, uh, sounded better, but also because it ploughed its own little sonick furrow sort of. The worst was the darkness, i mean it's a real cliche "there are better bands round our way in (insert provincial town here)", but in this case it's true, I've sat thru local metal bands who reeally sucked, but who were no worse, & probably better than the darkness - why are they hyped so? I don't understand.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Plus, I am kind of baffled by there being so many US bands there, and getting coverage in brit magz generally. I mean, I like americans, american musick, especially american synthesisers, and certainly if you checked out all the brit small scene bands i'm sure they'd be loads ov k-lame strokes and stripes knock offs, but there must be some good/weird/interesting brit bands playing the provinces? I want to read about them and buy their rekkids. It does me 'ead in.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

right i'm going to play "half life" for a bit. better music!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Where you up to on Half Life, n[]rm4n?

The best song in the world, as per today, undoubtedly, and I'm not just saying this because you are in the building: VdG "Refugees". No doubt!

Cozen (Cozen), Friday, 25 April 2003 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I got to thee bit w/thee giant 4-legged spider w/the slightly uneasiness-inducing nutsack thing dangling between it's legs. It's really hard, and i ran out of bullets & rockets and stuff, so I started the game again, except with headphones, so i get all the little bits of conversation. I'll save more bullets next time.

I dig refugees, that's fr sure, but my best-track-in-the-qorld right now = "this town ain't big enough for the both of us"

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 April 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

'but there must be some good/weird/interesting brit bands playing the provinces? I want to read about them and buy their rekkids. It does me 'ead in.'

I kinda liked Electronic Eye Machine and The New Tellers live - def. interesting and better than most N

Geordie Racer, Saturday, 26 April 2003 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Old Skool Reunion!!

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 26 April 2003 10:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Norman, I think I watched the rise of the darkness with interest - in reality - it was a bunch of coked up eejits deciding that the datsuns were going to be really big and then deciding they were going to sign a local england band. In reality, shite metal band, probably resp. for the death of the nu-rock scene, is getting local london hype - will die very very soon - ala gay dad.

the magazine? the second issue was purdy bad stuff. i actually get these cds in the post - the mellowdrone and the har mar superstar and thought. meh. not remotely 'citing. And hardly worth the spread of interest.

and know a guy pretty high up in the warner brothers chain of command. I think 'cause NME started a war against BANG and well - that meant that two high profile Warner acts will no longer be getting coverage from NME then - I think, honestly, that Warner Brothers is backing Bang but hardly anyone else. It sort of read like a Warner Brothers tip sheet.

Their own stupuidity for pitting themselves against the NME again. Why not just start a magazine without hyping it as the alternative NME? IPC Media is going to squash it and by the time that I saw the second issue, it's death is assured.

But to surmise from the darkness - the person orginally resp. for the darkness came from another record company where he was supposedly involved (in reality was not) with the signing of two very good bands that stormed the charts. Thus the interest was paid on that eejit's new efforts. Only the people did not know was thus: HE WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TWO COOL NEW SIGNINGS - THE CRED WAS GIVEN TO HIM. BUT THE PERSON WHO NO LONGER NEEDED THE CRED. Thus, the darkness. But alas, what goes around, comes around, they were signed away from Must Destroy (apt) (no option) (hahaha - looks good on the fuckface) and now are on Sony (Death to the Darkness). It will fade. AS the quality is not there.

And I alienate myself against the Bang retards 'cause during the intial meeting I could not contain my disbelief when they were going to back the darkness - when obviously the only darkness they need is a quick strangulation.

Sonny Tremaine (Sonny), Saturday, 26 April 2003 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

And WTF was another Flaming Lips article doing there???? But the original guy told me that he was fully expecting to lose millions of pounds in establishing Bang as a FORCE.

Shit man, what a waste of money and resources.

Sonny Tremaine (Sonny), Saturday, 26 April 2003 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

for people that know = the darkness is one tired london media in-joke. i.e. this guy knows (when he does not) - let's hype anything he throws at us cause it's going to be world-wide big.

anyone read the bang mesage board? does anyone not working for it or prs - actually post on there? that is a litmus test in itself.

ps. i didnt buy it but read it in budgens where afterwards i covered the shameful mess with a bunch of heat magazines! bahahaha! petty but fun.

Sonny Tremaine (Sonny), Saturday, 26 April 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

have never seen the magazine, but the tracklisting for the cd is interminable rubbish

gareth (gareth), Saturday, 26 April 2003 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)


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