wot? no CORTINAS thread?

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Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 20 September 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

A couple of great singles but the album was rub!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 20 September 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, Fritz! I have this record. It's fucking great - a classic piece of kiddiepunk!!

"I'm a fascist dictator/
yeah, that's what I am/
I'm a fascist dictator/
and I'm like no other maaaan"

there used to be an advert for one of their rekkids that appeared in NME & Sounds at the time, which was a narrow strip down the edge of the page, and it was a picture of someone (at the top of the page) chucking up, with this elongated blob of slick-looking vomit running down the length of the advert. At the time I was 12, so of course I thought it was the coolest thing in the world.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

wow!

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

That was the ad. for the second single, Defiant Pose.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Defiant Pose! Yes! (I've never heard the album. what a shame if it's rubbish, the singles were indeed great)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The third single (Heartache) was also rub.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Gah. "Defiant Pose" suggest a self-awareness that they probably didn't have really.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they thought punk had run it's course by the beginning of '78 and tried to reinvent themselves as a powerpop band.

Their guitarist was in the "Cut The Crap" incarnation of The Clash.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

God, powerpop was some terrible stuff for me - I remember hearing this interview w/one of the motors on radio one - "we want to change punk, and make it evolve", which would have been ok, if it had been, say, Ian Curtis or Mark Stewart saying that, not useless bloody bram tchaikovsky or whoever.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"one of the motors on radio one - "we want to change punk, and make it evolve"" = "shit, we missed the bandwagon - hey, wait for us everyone!"

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Fwiw I did / do actually quite like the Motors. And Bram Tchaikovsky.

That's still true 'though.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

t/s the motors' "airport" vs eddie & the hot rods' "do anything you wanna do"

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Tough call but I'm going to go with The Hot Rods.

If you'd said Dancing The Night Away rather than Airport it might very easily have been a different story 'though.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Airport is fantastic ("Well I help her with my baggage/and her baggage is so heavy").

So is "Do Anything..." (I'm gonna break out of this cit-ay"..)

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

with HER baggage

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

But so's Dancing The Night Away, Doc:

"So you wanna believe everything that you read...."


Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Instant Cortinas brain-dump:

1. On stage, they all called themselves "Johnny".
2. First release on Mark P's Step Forward label.
3. Had a song about trusting Valerie Singleton.
4. I frequently (like every couple of weeks or so) get the chorus of "Defiant Pose" stuck in my head. This has been going on for the past 26 years. I don't own a copy; I've only heard it three or four times; I'm not even particularly fond of it; and I wish it would go away.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm gonna strike a defiant pose
Against the life you chose...."

That's all I can remember and I've actually got the single!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

wot? no SLAUGHTER AND THE DOGS thread?
wot? no JOHNNY RUBBISH thread?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Johnny Rubbish? What was it: "I wanna swimming pool in my yard / I wanna gold Barclaycard / 'cos I Wanna Live In NW3" or something like that?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

is there a compilation of this stuff?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, yes, that's the one. Wasn't it actually Peter Cook?

I wish there was a comp of this stuff.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

if it hasn't been done already, someone should really do a nuggets/velvet tinmine style thing of these early english punk singles.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

most of the early UK singles have been comped somewhere by now, legitimately or otherwise. Anagram/Cherry Red have done singles collections by record label that covers a lot of it.

Talking of powerpop and Eddie & The Hot Rods, doesn't "Starry Eyes" by the Records blatantly rip off "Do anything you wanna do" for the melody??

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

"Wasn't it actually Peter Cook?"

Hell, I dunno.... was it?!?

Why, if it was, then that would surely increase the value of my copy to.... almost the 10p I originally paid for it when I found it in the bargain bin!

Without any adjustment for inflation, obv.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i enjoyed reading about them in the trouser press guide to alternative records

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I was at many, maybe most of the Cortinas' early gigs! They were Bristol's top punk band, for what little that was worth, and that was where I was, so I saw them lots. I always enjoyed them too, but have only really retained much fondness for Fascist Dictator.

Tim to thread (ha, some hope) to tell us about recent news of lead singer Jeremy Valentine.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 20 September 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Did you know Vice Squad Martin? They were k-rub, but I have been in various bands with their first bass player for the last 20 years. Still am!

**wot? no SLAUGHTER AND THE DOGS thread?**

'Bootboys' and Cranked Up Really High/Bitch singles I have a soft spot for. They were pretty dodgy really - I have all the first single/EP on Rabid too -the name of which escapes me. It's not bad.

The Drones were better. A REALLY BAD Manc punk band was V2, really, really excruciatingly badly played nonsense - 'Man In A Box' I think was the worst.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 20 September 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I vaguely remember Vice Squad, but no more than that I'm afraid.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 20 September 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The first Vice Squad single (Last Rockers) was absolutely fantastic - did your bass player mate play on that one, Doc?

Unfortunately nothing else I've ever heard from them came close and they eventually ended up in self-parody with two different versions of the band kicking about with both laying claim to the name.

It may be worth mentioning that their vocalist, Beki Bondage, was an extremely attractive young lady and had a voice that could strip paint off window frames (I mean that in a good way).

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Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 07:14 (twenty-one years ago)

First Slaughter & The Dogs single = "It's Alright".

Yes, he did play on Last Rockers.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 07:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Hah! Then I'm pretty sure my mate interviewed him for our fanzine shortly after the single came out!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

"Wasn't it actually Peter Cook?"
Hell, I dunno.... was it?!?

nnnnNo.....h

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 07:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The cortinas : I had "Fasc Dic" on a reel-to-reel that I recorded off the radio.

Radio 210 : Mike Read's punk/new wave top twenty. Now, who actually heared that? as opposed to 'read about it later'?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 07:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha Mike Read: remember the Trainspotters "High Rise Living"?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 07:52 (twenty-one years ago)

"Wasn't it actually Peter Cook?"
"Hell, I dunno.... was it?!?"
"nnnnNo.....h"

I do recall rumours that one or more of The Stranglers had played on it - it was released on UA.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 08:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"I was at many, maybe most of the Cortinas' early gigs!"

I saw them once or twice - I specifically remember seeing them at Hammersmith Palais supporting Buzzcocks and Subway Sect.

I've heard that they originally started out as an R'n'B / pop covers band and changed their look / style to jump on the punk bandwagon - so they may actually have been reverting to type when they started churning out all the soppy stuff that was on the album!

Like a lot of bands around that time they used false names to throw the DHSS off the trail - but wasn't one of them actually the son of some reasonably famous actor or a newsreader or something like that?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Bonus question for extra marks: why does my brain insist on retaining all this useless crap?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)

"Their guitarist was in the "Cut The Crap" incarnation of The Clash."

That guitarist was Nick Sheppard actually (started in Cortinas). He lives here in Perth (Australia)and is currently working as part of that Ramones (Gabba Gabba Hey!)theatre performance that is touring Australia and co-produced/directed by Tommy Ramone!

In fact, Nick has lived here for years and has been doing deejaying here also: playing reggae, funk, jazz, old skool stuff! Also cameoed in the odd movie or two as well) How do I know? I used to work alongside him doing it in the mid-90s!

Seems like Perth has become a nice settling place for old, indie statesmen, as Stephen Mallinder of The Cabs (Cabaret Voltaire) moved here over 10 years ago and runs his record label operations from here also.

herbalizer12 (herbalizer12), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
http://eil.com/newGallery/The-Cortinas-Defiant-Pose-265364.jpg

!!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 28 April 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)


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