Acts that did *NOT* become hugely deified legends -- justifiably or unjustifiably -- after their deaths.

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John Balance of COIL
Wendy O Williams of the Plasmatics

Others....?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

billy mackenzie

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

WHAR IS EPIC SOUNDTRACKS' STATUE???

― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

epic soundtracks is dead?

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

shit!

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

The Bass Thing (aka Rob Jones) of the Wonder Stuff

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It's too early to judge with Jhon Balance ... but Coil were already legends. You could say the same about the Ramones^3 -- bizarrely (and somewhat sadly), their reputation feels unnaffected by the death of three members.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Marc Bolan. (Hear me out)...

Just after he died, a couple months afterwards anyway, his new single came out as scheduled. "Celebrate Summer" had already flopped, and "Crimson Moon" made no impression.

It took a long time for the "Marc on Wax" thing to happen.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Johnny Thunders.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

that milli vanilli dude who died.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Hutchence

― mr. drew (mr. drew), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Johnny Thunders is pretty revered post-death, I'd say. But Michael Hutchence OTM!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Kirsty MacColl

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott La Rock

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The London Boys

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Malcolm Owen of The Ruts.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

D Boon. Not enough, anyway.
Jaco Pastorius. Not enough, anyway.
Peter Laughner. Not enough, anyway.

― diedre mousedropping (Dave225), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

You never hear much about the singer from the Yardbirds (for example, I can't even remember his name).

― Jerzy Lipniki, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

big pun

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

You never hear much about the singer from the Yardbirds (for example, I can't even remember his name).

Keith Relph...I think.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, didn't see this thread before posting on the other:

Mediocrity elevated to posthumous legend is probably more common than the flipside, the talented ones who died young but inspired no great mythology: Mel Street, Minnie Ripperton, Earl Hooker, Lyman Bostock. Who else?

― brianiac (briania), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Shanon Hoon Blind Melon

Great band amazing song writing

Check soup

― jj, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

King Curtis

― brianiac (briania), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Ted Hawkins
Gary Stewert
Chris Kenner

― Burr (Burr), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

wendy o williams and the plasmatics are best forgotten.

cutty, epic killed himself a while back -- very sad.

JIM SHEPARD/V-3/VERTICAL SLIT, ETC SHOULD BE REMEMBERED FOREVER.

― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

it's Keith Relf, actually

Bernard Edwards

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Jim Shepard OTM

― diedre mousedropping (Dave225), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Him out of The Fat Boys

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I CRY WHEN I THINK OF ALL THE STUFF SHEPARD'S EXWIFE IS SITTING ON AND WONT RELEASE OR LET ANYONE ELSE RERELEASE.

― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

David Ackles
Alexis Korner
Graham Bond
Paul Kossoff

― Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Evans & Peter Ham of Badfinger. (Slightly deified among a certain group, but nowhere near what they deserve.)

― mike a, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Klaus Nomi, until this year.

― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

David Crosby's liver donor. He should be celebrated.

― p.j. (Henry), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

that milli vanilli dude who died.

"Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--Girl, you know it's--"

― PB, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Rozz Williams

― Seb (Seb), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The Exploding Hearts

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Falco
Liberace

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Adrian Borland/The Sound

― Fergal (Ferg), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

John Denver
The lead singer from Big Country.
The guy in the Gin Blossoms.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

wendy o williams and the plasmatics are best forgotten.

PISTOLS AT DAWN, PEASANT!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

joe strummer. probably 'cause he didn't die quite young enough.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

wtf? there a lot of people who deify him!

― latebloomer: But when the monkey die, people gonna cry. (latebloomer), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

well yeah, but all those people deified him while he was alive and well. his death did nothing for his legend, and within the wide world of pop culture deification, there was certainly room for it to grow.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Tiny Tim

― Steve Gertz (sgertz), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait.. I take that back. Tiny Tim is a fucking legend!

― Steve Gertz (sgertz), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

dave tyack (i am of course under the impression he never turned up again after going missing?)

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Wesley Willis.

His status in the music world really didn't change at all after his death and the momentary blip of attention on him died out.

― Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

joe strummer. probably 'cause he didn't die quite young enough.

http://homepage.mac.com/alexinnyc/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2005-03-31%2010.27.26%20-0800/Image-43E3F121A21111D9.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

D Boon is dead? i didn't know that.

that really, really bums me out. i was listening to Double Nickels in the Dime when I read that.. this "Dr. Wu" is for you, BOON!

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope you at least know doctor wu is a steely dan song?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

speaking of "wu" -- ol' dirty bastard, anyone?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i was going to say ODB, but his post-humous album hasn't come out yet, so we can't really judge, can we?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i was going to say ODB, but his posthumous album hasn't come out yet, so we can't really judge, can we?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope you at least know doctor wu is a steely dan song?

i have failed.

At least I've still got "Don't Look Now"...

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

(j.k.)

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Exploding Hearts

― a banana (alanbanana), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

layne staley

― Sym Sym (sym), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 06:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Gene Clark?

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 06:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Damon Edge

― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 06:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Big L

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Otha Turner?

― Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Dawn Crosby. Although there are, or were, a couple of web-sites that deified her. I still get sad when I think of her dying.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Jobriath
Vaughn Toulouse (Department S)

― Ian Riese-Moraine has a grenade, that pineapple's not just a toy! (Eastern Mantr, Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Tammy Wynette.

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"I'm not DEAD YET! SHUTUP!"

― diedre mousedropping (Dave225), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Townes Van Zandt (not enough)

― shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeffrey Lee Pierce

― David A. (Davant), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

(Deified by a few, including me, but 999 out of 1000 won't have heard of the Gun Club.)

― David A. (Davant), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

The folks who said Jaco and Falco on this thread are wrong, and I presume that they don't spend too much time around bass players or German speakers.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

matthew fletcher

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Hrm. As of 6:13 PM CST:

Acts that did *NOT* become hugely deified legends -- justifiably or unjustifiably -- after their deaths. (68 new answers)
Thin Lizzy: Classic or Dud? (3 new answers, 53 total)

Live and Dangerous smokes 95% of all greatest-hits compilations by any hard rock band in history and essentially proves they were the missing link between Springsteen and Van Halen without even being from anywhere near Asbury Park or Pasadena. Most of their legacy is left to the occasional t-shirt appearance in a G'n'R video or a Hold Steady namedrop (good endorsements, granted), but they deserve to be namedropped at least as often as, say, the MC5. (Particularly in Strokes reviews; "Look What the Wind Blew In" = 50x the sonic template that VU is)

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Tony Thompson
Peter Tosh
Johnnie Taylor
Charlie Rich
Keith Whitley
Tommy Bolin
Rory Gallahger

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Charizma
Big L
Subroc
Peter Tosh

― ()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Lowell George
Albert King
Waylon Jennings
Laura Nyro

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

The folks who said Jaco and Falco on this thread are wrong, and I presume that they don't spend too much time around bass players or German speakers.

Falco had hits outside the German speaking world too. Back then.

As for Jaco, I wasn't the one who mentioned him, but I'd say he was a legend among bass players way before his death.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 28 April 2005 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris Bell — he should have gotten all the "OMG" that Alex Chilton gets, and more.

― Curious George (1/6 Scale Model) (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 28 April 2005 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Agree about Chris Bell. Chilton may have given the world "September Gurls", but Chris Bell gave the world everything else that was great about Big Star.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 28 April 2005 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Elliot Smith has justifiably not been canonised since, nor due to the method of, his death. I hope.

― mentalist (mentalist), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

the lack of public appearance probably stiffed the promotion of the album

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

OTM re: Layne Staley.
Bullshit: re Joe Strummer. He was a legend before he died, so maybe you didn't notice an influx of bandwagoners post-death because there were already legions of fans mourning his death. BAH!!
Alex: I have an extra pistol, re the Wendy O Williams shootout with Jack Cole. I'm packing if you need backup. "Best forgotten". DOUBLE BAH!!

I don't know if he could become a hugely deified legend, but right now I really want him to be: Paul Hester of Crowded House. He's only been dead for a brief time, but I don't want people to stop talking about him.

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 April 2005 05:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Falco OTM

― daavid (daavid), Thursday, 28 April 2005 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i WAS gonna say big l, but on the other hand he always gets shout-outs. but maybe he still belongs here, b/c big l hasn't become deified in society at large.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 28 April 2005 05:49 (twenty-one years ago)

As for Jaco, I wasn't the one who mentioned him, but I'd say he was a legend among bass players way before his death.

Read one "not enough". He's a legend among bass players. That's hardly being deified.

― diedre mousedropping (Dave225), Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I think Jaco was deified all right, before he died.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, he more or less invented the fretless bass. If that doesn't make him a legend, then what would possibly make somebody a legend?

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Stiv Bator

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost -

Having people besides music geeks knowing who he is.

― diedre mousedropping (Dave225), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Sandy Denny
Phil Ochs

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 28 April 2005 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

what about FRED McDOWELL?

shit, there should be statues of him all over the planet if you ask me...

― Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

Every so often, I remember (or forget) that James Honeyman-Scott was incredible.

― geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

Second Gene Clark

The Big Bopper

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

I second D Boon, Big L, & Big Pun.

I'll add Garreth Williams of This Heat.

― - (smile), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

Every so often, I remember (or forget) that James Honeyman-Scott was incredible.

"Kid" might have my favorite guitar solo of all time.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Chess Islam

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

John Denver

― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Vince Taylor (Except, perhaps, in France.)

― Soukesian, Wednesday, 29 June 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

"Kid" might have my favorite guitar solo of all time.

Ha. That's the one I was thinking of this morning when I remembered this thread. And now I'm thinking of it again, and again I say, "Incredible."

― geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Stuart Adamson...which is ok in my book

― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Lisa Lopez, Aaliyah :(

― Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Tupac

― matlewis, Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Are you serious?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

no, i wanted to mention the exploding hearts but they already got several shout-outs

― matlewis, Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

mat, you are a good person

― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

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