A little late in starting this so here we go...
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:13 (ten years ago)
With thanks to curmudgeon for the initial copy/paste:
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Theme
Get Ur Freak On: Music, Weirdness, and Transgressions
Exploding conventions has long put the bomp in pop: the uncontainable desire of those deemed sexually unnatural, racial impostors, gender outlaws, obsessed fans, willful bohemians, or just plain weird. “We feel perverse, using the word with no comprehension of the principle,” Edgar Allan Poe wrote in “The Imp of the Perverse.” Music often sanctions transgression, challenges or corrupts the status quo depending on your perspective, gives us Prince in one era (called Imp of the Perverse by a biographer), Miley Cyrus in another, an Iggy Pop then and an Iggy Azalea now.
For this year’s Pop Conference, we seek presentations that connect music of any style or period to notions of transgression, perversion, and the weird, such as:histories of the strange from minstrelsy to cabaret, rock and roll to black metal, “Tutti Frutti” to “Super Freak”twistings of form—of the song, the voice, the genre, language; versioning and remixes; sonic markers of the polymorphousqueer pop, gender subversion and the perverse divatransgression, social movements, and culture wars; the role of the state; drugsracialized notions of otherness, margins/difference as center, carnivalexploitation–marketing “Blurred Lines,” the limits of dissolute star/fan behaviortechnology and the estrangement of the human in popcomparative cultural ethnographies of outrageousnessfetishization of records, the past, the disease of collecting
Submissions
Deadline
November 17, 2014.
Email Eric . Weisbard @ gmail.com
http://www.empmuseum.org/programs-plus-education/programs/pop-conference/pop-conference.aspx?t=call-for-proposals#Tabs
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:14 (ten years ago)
And this will be April 16–19, 2015 in Seattle once more. Why yes I've already booked a hotel room.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:15 (ten years ago)
Proposals due Monday1
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 November 2014 20:42 (ten years ago)
I'm annoyed that someone tweeted in October that the deadline already passed and I believed them
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Saturday, 15 November 2014 21:09 (ten years ago)
btw if someone has figured out how to look at last year's accepted proposals, let me know. When I click on panelists' names, it takes me back to 2015's theme.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 November 2014 21:32 (ten years ago)
it's weird, this one is all about weirdness and i couldn't think of anything i wanted to write about.
if EMP ever goes back to NYC in the future i will totally be there though.
― scott seward, Saturday, 15 November 2014 21:45 (ten years ago)
man, these EMP threads ain't like they used to be, huh?
― scott seward, Saturday, 15 November 2014 22:10 (ten years ago)
hey, scott -- can the Eagles count as transgression?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 November 2014 23:01 (ten years ago)
The Eagles are perversity without transgression, that's the problem.
I submitted a metal-related proposal.
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 16 November 2014 02:14 (ten years ago)
i'm so glad you are into the EMP, glenn. i knew you would like them. and you have so much to add in a way that is unique to you.
― scott seward, Sunday, 16 November 2014 06:37 (ten years ago)
Yeah, I had a really good time last year. Gotta get accepted again, though.
I like imagining the people reviewing proposals this year, trying to decide whether each idea is perverse enough.
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 16 November 2014 20:58 (ten years ago)
I'm still thinking about submitting a proposal where I just stand at the podium shouting "THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS TRANSGRESSION UNDER 21st CENTURY CAPITALISM" for 20 minutes.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 16 November 2014 21:12 (ten years ago)
If you don't get that proposal in by tomorrow's deadline, it'll fit great with 2016's theme of 21st Century Capitalism.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 17 November 2014 00:49 (ten years ago)
submitted mine today. i've had a fabulous experience every time i've gone, whether i've presented or not, and i have no doubt this one will be great too.
― Westing (By Musket Anne Sexton) (get bent), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 00:30 (ten years ago)
that said, i do hope the amazon construction near seattle center is a little more under control this time.
― Westing (By Musket Anne Sexton) (get bent), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 00:32 (ten years ago)
sent!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 00:33 (ten years ago)
hahaha good one, it will literally never end.
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 00:51 (ten years ago)
pfeh, didn't think so
― Westing (By Musket Anne Sexton) (get bent), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 00:55 (ten years ago)
sent mine!
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 01:34 (ten years ago)
i do hope the amazon construction near seattle center is a little more under control this time.
lololololololololololololololol
― kate78, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 18:05 (ten years ago)
This city is a crane forest right now
Last time I made a wrong right turn and ended up in Idaho.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 18:06 (ten years ago)
so....who was accepted? I'm in.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 December 2014 16:28 (ten years ago)
I'll be doing a solo thing and a panel.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 26 December 2014 19:17 (ten years ago)
i'm in, doing a lou reed panel.
― Bill Nighy the Science Gighy (get bent), Saturday, 27 December 2014 00:43 (ten years ago)
dudes!!! have fun. would love to hang with you guys. sadly, life intervenes. just too hard to get away these days. i will totally be at an nyc one like swimwear if that happens again.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 December 2014 02:28 (ten years ago)
not accepted, sigh. i'm not counting out the possibility of making the trip to Seattle anyway, just for the fun of it, though.
― some dude, Saturday, 27 December 2014 03:03 (ten years ago)
Don't! It's great fun, despite our company.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 December 2014 03:10 (ten years ago)
Schedule up:
http://www.empmuseum.org/programs-plus-education/programs/pop-conference/pop-conference.aspx
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:12 (ten years ago)
Hope to see or meet some of you!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 February 2015 16:16 (ten years ago)
...you're the drinks guy, yeah...
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:50 (ten years ago)
Lies!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 February 2015 16:53 (ten years ago)
trying to think of my three "worst songs ever"! i might go with three bad company songs, or maybe mix it up with a little solo eric clapton. and there's gotta be a terrible white-guy indie thing.
― no fucks given or implied (get bent), Friday, 20 February 2015 22:24 (ten years ago)
a certain massive 2014 is looking me straight in the eye
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 February 2015 22:25 (ten years ago)
voted. one is a classic rock workhorse, one is a nineties corporate-alternative cover version of a hip-hop song, and one is an eighties comeback by a dinosaur band.
― no fucks given or implied (get bent), Friday, 20 February 2015 22:39 (ten years ago)
Surprised Christgau's not on the poptimism panel.
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Saturday, 21 February 2015 00:11 (ten years ago)
the real worst song of all time is probably some deep cut hiding on a Candlebox album or some shit
― Simon H., Saturday, 21 February 2015 02:41 (ten years ago)
Well here you go, then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6XPtWZRLQ8
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 21 February 2015 03:14 (ten years ago)
See, not far off
My real answer someone else will have to ID, it had a big chorus about "America, America, home of the freeeee" and appeared exclusively on a greatest hits album by a major 70s/80s rock band - thought it was Steppenwolf, but apparently not? It became a bit of a meme at a video store I worked at when my co-worker was trying to convince me of this band's greatness and found...this thing, instead.
― Simon H., Saturday, 21 February 2015 03:59 (ten years ago)
one is a classic rock workhorse, one is a nineties corporate-alternative cover version of a hip-hop song, and one is an eighties comeback by a dinosaur band.America - Horse with No NameDynamite Hack - Boyz in the HoodStarship - We Built This City ?
― MarkoP, Saturday, 21 February 2015 06:12 (ten years ago)
one of those is right.
― no fucks given or implied (get bent), Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:05 (ten years ago)
http://www.thestranger.com/music/feature/2015/04/15/22047264/a-lot-of-smart-people-will-be-at-the-emp-pop-conference-this-weekend-will-you-be-one
List of presenters with books recently out
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 19:13 (ten years ago)
Hope to see you people therer!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 19:36 (ten years ago)
w00t, plane leaves thurs at 7 am!
― HISTERICAL COMEDIC SPOKESMAN (get bent), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 20:41 (ten years ago)
Bags packed! Presentations written and rehearsed and timed! Well, bags packed anyway!
See you all in Seattle.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 23:56 (ten years ago)
Already checked in at the hotel and relaxed. See everyone tomorrow!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 April 2015 00:29 (ten years ago)
how's the hotel?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 April 2015 00:36 (ten years ago)
i got my presentation down to 19 minutes with music cues and slides, so i am keeping my fingers crossed i don't have any a/v fuckups on the day.
― HISTERICAL COMEDIC SPOKESMAN (get bent), Thursday, 16 April 2015 02:13 (ten years ago)
I stayed there last year and liked it just fine. Of course it's nowhere near as nice as the one they haven't built yet.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 16 April 2015 12:19 (ten years ago)
A. and I are staying at the Best Western near EMP. The reviews are mixed but I'm sure it's fine.
― HISTERICAL COMEDIC SPOKESMAN (get bent), Thursday, 16 April 2015 13:15 (ten years ago)
Hey if any of you are still going to be in town on Monday 4/20 and want to hang out, I'm meeting up with some of the Seattle ILXors at Nine Lb Hammer at 7 p.m. I'm in town for work from Friday through Tuesday, but can't make any of the EMP stuff unfortunately.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 16 April 2015 14:47 (ten years ago)
I'm over some part of Montana right now. Maura is over whatever part of Montana is 14 rows further west of my part.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:10 (ten years ago)
after many false starts I am on a plane hopefully arriving in Seattle sometime before the apocalypse
― katherine, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:46 (ten years ago)
Booked a room at Seattle's Best Karaoke for tomorrow night. 9 to ??$5.50 per person, per hour.BYOB
― kate78, Saturday, 18 April 2015 06:37 (ten years ago)
!!
― katherine, Saturday, 18 April 2015 14:32 (ten years ago)
Great running into NA briefly! Sorry we couldn't chat more!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 April 2015 14:35 (ten years ago)
I'm gonna eventually make my way to Kremwerk across the street from Seattle's best karaoke for the queer hiphop night there, so that's a thing going on tonight too.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 18 April 2015 16:21 (ten years ago)
Huh I have a work dinner not too far from the karaoke place, maybe I'll swing by if I'm not too exhausted.
I knew I would somehow run into Ned and it happened.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Saturday, 18 April 2015 17:20 (ten years ago)
that is the definition of ned in the dictionary
― j., Saturday, 18 April 2015 18:15 (ten years ago)
True. Even before the parts about pi and the purple tie.
― You Play The Redd And The Blecch Comes Up (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 April 2015 20:16 (ten years ago)
Sounds about right.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 19 April 2015 00:23 (ten years ago)
see just like that
― j., Sunday, 19 April 2015 02:00 (ten years ago)
that karaoke was the absolute best
― HISTERICAL COMEDIC SPOKESMAN (get bent), Sunday, 19 April 2015 09:40 (ten years ago)
Gahhhh, so much fun!!
― kate78, Sunday, 19 April 2015 10:56 (ten years ago)
That Memphis rap and more panel description on twitter sounds like it was fun
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:02 (ten years ago)
@TyinaSteptoe with "'Big Mama’s Shuffle’: Willie Mae Thornton and Female Masculinity”
the lavender scare of the 50s. "Homophobia literally changes blues music in the 50s" #EMPPopCon
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:08 (ten years ago)
maura, cmolanphy & useful_noise discuss Beatles-related weirdness
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:09 (ten years ago)
"[Alberta Hunter] was a liar. A beautiful liar. And this makes tracking down her story all the more fun
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:11 (ten years ago)
talk on Dirty South hip-hop's preoccupation with violence visited upon black bodies & grotesque aftermath
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:16 (ten years ago)
discussing Kendrick/D'Angelo records w/r/t how gender plays into their polyvocality
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:23 (ten years ago)
So Will Hermes is writing a book on Lou Reed
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:28 (ten years ago)
Lester Bangs panel. Of course
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:32 (ten years ago)
I bet DJ Soul Sister from N'awlins talking about Teena Marie was great
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:38 (ten years ago)
David Byrne, Divine, Suicide,
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:49 (ten years ago)
So Will Hermes is writing a book on Lou Reed― curmudgeon, Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:28 PM (25 minutes ago)
― You Play The Redd And The Blecch Comes Up (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:55 (ten years ago)
Meant to say: this is news to you?
Yep. Though does not surprise me
This sounded interesting too
Gayle Wald comparing the white license of The Who destroying instruments versus the politics of Kirk & Hendrix burning
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:56 (ten years ago)
I had a great time!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 April 2015 20:07 (ten years ago)
That was a long too-short intense non-stop blast of awesomeness. Massive thanks to everybody who made it possible, organized it, spoke, listened, lurked or whatever.
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 19 April 2015 20:44 (ten years ago)
Enjoyed being a fly on the wall of this thread about as much as on the London ILB FAP thread.
― You Play The Redd And The Blecch Comes Up (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 April 2015 21:09 (ten years ago)
Wait so was karaoke last night? I thought it was tonight.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Sunday, 19 April 2015 21:46 (ten years ago)
Seems like I missed it. Oh well.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:49 (ten years ago)
Here's the talk-script from my Sunday morning talk-plus-clip-blasting about searching for a philosophical agenda in nominally Satanic heavy metal:
http://www.furia.com/page.cgi?type=log&id=437
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 20 April 2015 02:21 (ten years ago)
Can confirm.
― The Reverend, Monday, 20 April 2015 04:52 (ten years ago)
will hermes is a really good dude and a great writer (loved "buildings on fire," loved his lou panel, really looking fwd to the lou book). i was initially nervous about stepping on his toes by pitching a paper about lou, but it turned out he invited me to be on his panel and was very encouraging.
― T-Boz Scaggs (get bent), Monday, 20 April 2015 07:03 (ten years ago)
That K-pop influenced by Missy Elliot presentation sounded impressive based on tweets, and the various Aretha ones including from author David Ritz did too
― curmudgeon, Monday, 20 April 2015 14:53 (ten years ago)
My twitter feed about this made me extremely envious of anyone in attendence. Next year, I'll have to make it out. It's been years since I left academia and attended conferences but this seemed really cool.
― Fatalist AmandaPalmistry (irrational), Monday, 20 April 2015 15:26 (ten years ago)
my paper, if you'd like:
http://jodybethrosen.com/2015/04/14/and-then-the-colored-girls-they-walk-over-lou-reed-works-blue-on-live-take-no-prisoners/
for anyone who was there: i am so so so sorry and mortified by the tech problems i had. i had gotten this strong sense beforehand that i was going to experience some glitches but i didn't anticipate how glitchy it would actually be. i was just trying to run powerpoint from a bog-standard hp pavilion laptop and a couple of sound clips from an iphone 6. no reason why that shouldn't have worked. next year if i'm accepted again i'll just read the paper with no accompaniments.
― T-Boz Scaggs (get bent), Monday, 20 April 2015 21:07 (ten years ago)
it was almost funny: the audio cable kept popping out of my phone's headphone jack while i was trying to play music on it! the projector screen kept going blank. lou must have been watching, trying to will this thing into nonexistence.
― T-Boz Scaggs (get bent), Monday, 20 April 2015 21:11 (ten years ago)
I wanna talk to the shade of Lou Reed, man, he through a cup at his Jody.
― You Play The Redd And The Blecch Comes Up (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 April 2015 22:58 (ten years ago)
I guess someone should start a 2016 thread
http://www.empmuseum.org/programs-plus-education/programs/pop-conference.aspx?from=pe
EMP POP CONFERENCE 2016APRIL 14-17, 2016 AT EMP MUSEUM
From a Whisper to a Scream: The Voice in Music
The EMP Pop Conference returns with its biggest roster of presentations yet, looking at the ways music lets us hear voices: singers, to be sure, whether virtuosos or idiosyncratic originals, but also other types of vocalizing. How do instrumentalists insert their selves into their music? When the dominant voices in our songs change, what changes with that, from personal identity to collective messages? A switch in voice—from croon to rasp to rap to Auto-Tune—alters everything it reaches.
In dozens of panels, all free to the public (though we strongly recommend advance registration), we’ll explore musical voices across genre and time period: soul singers and rock singers, singers of exotica and Mexi-Cajun blues. Panels on goth-punk wailer Siouxsie Sioux, warbling rapper Future, and pop-rock duo Hall & Oates. Synthetic “vocaloids” and challenges to female decorum. Singing across lines of color. Good bad singing and bad good singing. Vocal coaching. Southern accents.
Follow the links on this page for more information about each session, including the biographies of presenters, summaries of talks and roundtables, and details on how to pre-register and have an entrance badge waiting for you when you arrive. We look forward to seeing you at the Pop Conference!
Eric Weisbard Pop Conference organizer University of Alabama
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 February 2016 20:27 (nine years ago)
see y'all there. Come say hi and buy me a drink after my presentation.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 February 2016 20:31 (nine years ago)
Hall and Oates...nice
― curmudgeon, Friday, 19 February 2016 14:43 (nine years ago)
I already have trips planned for the beginning and end of May, otherwise I would try to go to this.
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 19 February 2016 14:45 (nine years ago)
New thread? Done and done.
EMP Pop Conference 2016
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 February 2016 15:00 (nine years ago)