Favourite 2000 hip hop

year 2000, that is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy468aoZADo

ban raccoon tanuki

tbf this is an awesome list

Tough call but I had to go with Train of Thought.

in process of making a spotify mix for myself if anyones interested ill post it up at some point

lex's suggestion happens to be my favorite

i had no idea how great that Kim album was actually.

shout out to Big Moe's reply to Black Rob's Whoa, "Mann"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnO7GBhsi7c

no beanie sigel's 'the truth' no credibility

i also like dj quik, scewball, 3-6 mafia, and the big tymers

yeah but the answer is obv supreme clientele what is the point of this

Like Water For Chocolate

so many underrated deep cuts off that kim album, esp "aunt dot" and "i'm human" (so fitting that the album closes with this, kim morphing herself into a posthuman version of herself. IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, SON AND DAUGHTER / HERE COMES THE NEW WORLD ORDER. proto-illuminati right there. ahead of her time.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xApK3xkyc8g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXELYwgdocE

oh wait 3-6 is on the list

i think the underground smellroad is my favourite outkast album, keep it thoro one of the greatest beats, supreme clientele my favourite lyrics on any album, dirty harriet just about my favorite female mc album ever, my fav common album, The W my personal favourite, not saying best, Wu group album. The birth of Lord Quas. So much went down this year it's almost surreal to look back on.

beans was meant to be on there, lost track somewhere.

this was a better year than I remembered altho a lot of stuff I love on here was either preceded or shortly followed by something I think is better (Aquemini, the Fix, Iron Flag, Pretty Toney, the Ballatician)

this was a better year than I remembered altho a lot of stuff I love on here was either preceded or shortly followed by something I think is better (Aquemini, the Fix, Iron Flag, Pretty Toney, the Ballatician)

no way you just said iron flag better than W, and Pretty Toney better than Supreme? I have to strongly disagree on Scarface too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFSjf5jP7hU

weird how i don't associate all these from being from the same year

no way you just said iron flag better than W, and Pretty Toney better than Supreme?

yeah Pretty Toney is his peak imo, strong concept running through the whole thing and I like every track. Clientele is great but it drags towards the end. And nothing on the W is as good as Rules, with the possible exception of I Can't Go to Sleep. The inclusion of that shitty Snoop/ODB track mars the W and it mostly seems to retread a lot of old styles/ideas, whereas the pop sheen of Iron Flag still seems novel and entertaining (and also kind of unusual in the Wu discography).

I have to strongly disagree on Scarface too
haha well I did end up voting for Scarface fwiw. I figure Outkast will get plenty of love.

yeah Pretty Toney is his peak imo, strong concept running through the whole thing and I like every track. Clientele is great but it drags towards the end.

these two songs of unaccountable genius are at the end of SC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbnIscU65gc
(these lyrics)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaFNlyP3Kok

And nothing on the W is as good as Rules

on the contrary everything on The W is better than Rules. Ghostface verses and tears alone. The production is ahhhh

yeah Pretty Toney is his peak imo, strong concept running through the whole thing and I like every track

feeling this

What I liked a lot about 2000 hip hop is the renaissance of rugged/street production into higher fidelity and production values while being close enough to the ruggedness of the 90s to transfer that street and sample based sound into even more booming sonic. You hear this on Rawkus records like Mos Defs debut and the birth of guys like Just Blaze and especially here this modern mixed with old production values on Digga's Dirty Harriet, those beats were fucking turnt up but sample based and rugged but just a whole lot fuller, base heavy. same with Jay's Blueprint next year. We were still on the drum machine, Swizz synths hadn't taken over yet. Timbaland was bubbling under. But you still had Missy and Pharell pushing the move away from sampling. There was also some serious moves by the South into positioning itself to dominance over NY, this was NY's indian summer, almost. Roc A Fella were white hot but Outkast and Ludacris and stuff like Nelly had just cemented the airwaves for the first time NY had to pay attention to South and others.

Haven't even mentioned the presence of Em. When you look at it, 2000 was the end of the era of true geographical and style diversity in Hip Hop. There was room and money for success in your lane, whether it was Rawkus, Eminem, Dirty South, underground, Shiny Suits, Housten, Mid west was still alive

iron flag & the w are pretty comparable i can see arguments for either

SC def better than pretty toney to me, but pretty toney is his last great record IMHO, esp if you group it w/ the hidden darts stuff

that rah digga record is dope btw, i think that was a plum drank fav iirc

i dunno about swizz's synths not taking over though, we were 2 years deep into that by that point. "money cash hoes" was '98

Pretty Toney was dope, esp Holla, but it was toned down Ghost..

i dunno about swizz's synths not taking over though, we were 2 years deep into that by that point. "money cash hoes" was '98

right the shiny suit era too but it absolutely hadn't taken over yet and in fact was on a back seat to sampling as noted by Jay going with Blaze and Kanye around this time, sampling was in a mini renaissance, Swizz was very much in his own lane at ruff ryders, it was a huge lane though, DMX was so huge, like I said there was so much room for variety back then.

re: SC you get past Mighty Healthy and there's all these skits - Woodrow the Basehead, Clyde Smith, Who Would You Fuck, Iron's Theme - plus stuff like Stroke of Death and We Made It and Cherchez La Ghost that I just don'g gaf about, classic CD-era bloat stuff. I do like Wu Banga and Child's Play and Malcolm.

head nodder of the year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLlIbRKY9qY
(that tampon line...)

This LP also notable for having both Pete Rock and Premier producing but neither having the best beats on the album

right the shiny suit era too but it absolutely hadn't taken over yet and in fact was on a back seat to sampling as noted by Jay going with Blaze and Kanye around this time, sampling was in a mini renaissance, Swizz was very much in his own lane at ruff ryders, it was a huge lane though, DMX was so huge, like I said there was so much room for variety back then.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, September 25, 2014 4:10 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know it was an era w/ a lot of variety, i think you're just messing up the timeline. the reason kanye & just blaze sounded so refreshing when it really started to pick up steam w/ the blueprint in '01 (yes i know it was in album cuts on dynasty in '00 but it wasn't the singles, and prior to that kanye was a hitmen acolyte) was because the dominant sound was synthesizers ... it was all mannie fresh and swizz keyboards, trackmaster ish, if people used samples it was in a "pop" way a la puffy, not in a hip-hop method....kanye brought "soul" back to the music at a time when this sorta old school soul sound was mostly absent

it was all mannie fresh and swizz keyboards, trackmaster ish

so much to answer for

NB all that stuff is great

Stankonia's probably my favorite, but I voted for Em just because of how thoroughly MMLP dominated the minds of ten year olds (like me) that year.

between Quik, three 6, outkast & the dinasty for me.

& i'm with pretty toney vs SC.

also add lil wayne's light out to my fav's

the lox - we are the streets

Voted for Warriorz, that combination of aggro raps + heavy boom bap beats is timeless. Stankonia and 3030 are okay, but both are marred by too many pointless skits and interludes. Supreme Clientele is overrated, a lot of the beats on that album sound weak, and Ghostface's pauseless stream-of-consciousness flow just gets grating. The W has some of the best single Wu tracks of all time (especially "Careful (Click Click)" and "I Can't Go to Sleep"), but some meh autopilot stuff too, and fuck Junior Reid. Let's Get Free was my favourite rap album back then, but it sounds a bit dated and corny now. Dirty Harriet has some awesome tunes (particularly "Lesson of the Day"), but ultimately Rah Digga isn't versatile enough to carry a full solo album.

The others, I either don't care about (Eminem, Madlib, Talib, Dilated Peoples, Common, Scarface, Nelly, Luda) or haven't heard (the rest).

Oh yeah, the Bone-Thugs-n-Harmony album is decent too, but it's pretty much exactly what you'd expect from a BTNH record, nothing new or surprising.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ3p3uaqzco

correcting the fact this song wasn't mentioned yet

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MOP!!!!

nothin from nothin leaves nothin
that's why im thuggin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98yEaWPjt7M

Niggas elope wit ski slopes and fall like avalanches
Tootin like it's cool bein a fool, and I can't just
Sit around and watch those nose membranes flame
My ends is loose and you can't stop that rain
When it starts to fall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpEMOa-DiuQ

loved this single, album was disappointing when it dropped two(?) years later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA22kaNzbGk

The Platform sounds better now than it did at the time. Alc beats all good. DJ Babu should've produced a few more.

Wasn't my thing at the time but going back to it this album has to go down as a genre classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Y-CSQor5s

i voted for country grammar simply because it meant the most to me at the time

i also think it's a very underrated rap record in general

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Ha ha zero votes for Deltron

lolcats no votes for any backpacker and/or "conscious" shit w/ exception of train of thought (that album is too good to be dismissed with the pejoratives I just mentioned)

I know this board is more about mainstream, but Country Grammar came 3rd. Huh. 1 vote for Like Water for Chocolate? Hm. Luda album getting more than Scarface, Zro, Mystikal, Big Moe, C Murder, Boosie albums.

lol Supreme Clientele is mainstream now

I would have voted for any of those top 3 or Deltron if I knew he would have 0 votes.

I missed this poll but I would've voted for Quality Control, because if I'm being honest that was the CD I listened to the most at the time. Deltron was a close second; Like Water For Chocolate was a close third, but God that album was like homework and in hindsight I realize that I hated that I bought it and had to listen to it. 20 minutes of good music on an 80 minute CD.

Poll results also suggest not many here were actually listening to hip hop in 2000, idk.

stuff I listened to a lot in 2000:

Beanie Sigel- The Truth
DITC
Supereme Clientele
The Platform
Stankonia
AOI: Mosaic Thump
Like Water for Chocolate
Question in the Form of an Answer
Xzibit- Restless

Land of Oooh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avIqTrX2eac

Appearance from Dave Chappelle scene with Rah Digga at start there too

Mosaic thump def my favorite thing not captured in this poll

It's De La's worst album but I probably listened to it a couple hundred times anyway

Whoa worst? The other aoi album isn't nearly as good.

Hard to get everything in as there was so many good albums in one year always going to miss some. Didn't actually forget AOI just remembered it was being underwhlming at the time but I haven't listened to it in probably 14 years so may hold up well today. That single was always brilliant.

The W was my most listened to in the actual year. Older sibling was listening a lot to Like Water for Chocolate and Train of THought and by Osmosis so was I but maybe didn't appreciate LWFC until later.

Got bought Black On Both Sides for Christmas 99 and that blew my mind during most of 2000.

Bionix was great! I mean, it was a mess like the first AOI, but it's got some killer tracks and a few beautiful moments