Moment when it became like cool to like commercial pop music?

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i mean like genuine commercial made for your money under the indiepop glaze for people who like their starbucks iphone identity but no longer of the generation instinctively and cynically averse to blatant commercialism and instead are of the gen where identity is found within it rather than in opposition to it. Emimem's violent rap against a pop queen finds himself in a era he's not familiar with in that when he was going at pop stars in his pomp because now they curry favour in we are cool and knowledgeable circles rather than just been teen pop who you can say what you like about without anyone serious giving a shit

2011?

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:23 (eleven years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

example (crüt), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:24 (eleven years ago)

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Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:25 (eleven years ago)

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mattresslessness, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:27 (eleven years ago)

definitely 2011

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:27 (eleven years ago)

I was there when it happened I'll tell you about it some time

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:27 (eleven years ago)

shit was cray

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:27 (eleven years ago)

I don't wanna give too much away, but it was a little like this

http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/20122005/776483/Camp-David_wa.jpg

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:29 (eleven years ago)

reading all my posts like I'm Quavo

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:29 (eleven years ago)

iirc it was a fun meeting when we all agreed on this. Good catering.

Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:37 (eleven years ago)

Geir Hongro was the dissenting vote but then I dropped FutureSex/LoveSounds and he was all like "AHHHHHHHHH!"

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:40 (eleven years ago)

call me gotye

shmurda shmapital (sleepingbag), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:41 (eleven years ago)

hurting, was this really the place for your big reveal

imago, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:42 (eleven years ago)

http://sprudge.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Starbucks-Tattoo-2.jpg

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:42 (eleven years ago)

2012: ? The commercial but careful unassumingly cool image for the uncynical tumblr user? (Lana Del Rey and Lorde) Was it that recent?

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:43 (eleven years ago)

http://sprudge.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/1-img_6313.jpg

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:44 (eleven years ago)

http://sprudge.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/starbucks-tattoo.jpg

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:44 (eleven years ago)

http://sprudge.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/VNFZlU7eegqTQDHM.jpg

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:45 (eleven years ago)

excellent thread, and yeah, I'd say 2011 for sure.

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:45 (eleven years ago)

2004?

Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:45 (eleven years ago)

2011 ??

turning point = 2005

reason = rachel stevens : come and get it.

(that said, surely girls aloud hit this spot given the chaos on ilm/charts at the time !)

mark e, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:45 (eleven years ago)

http://s19.postimg.org/s2rc9if77/Starbucks_Tattoo_38009.jpg

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:46 (eleven years ago)

reminder that starbucks is the reason we no longer have seattle supersonics.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:46 (eleven years ago)

Grimes professing her love for Mariah Carey right when Visions came out was a big moment, I think.

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:46 (eleven years ago)

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7285/8747451498_a9d9f93bc6_z.jpg

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:47 (eleven years ago)

http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/m/mte6a4VxA_vpyZf02xIWVlQ/140.jpg

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:50 (eleven years ago)

http://image2.archambault.ca/2/A/1/B/ZIK2759619.1336698594.580x580.jpg

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:51 (eleven years ago)

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MxfLat5x-AI/hqdefault.jpg

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:52 (eleven years ago)

Grimes professing her love for Mariah Carey right when Visions came out was a big moment, I think.

― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:46 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was thinking of her love of Justin Bieber too ("I mean I don't get why he gets so much hate, it's really amazing what he's acheived at his age, by himself, and he's actually like a really good singer" etc). it doesn't matter whether it's genuine or not, point is it was now a thing to actively support commercialism in music than be anything else towards it, and it never really was before that.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:52 (eleven years ago)

You guys are way off. This happened in September 1992.

everything, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:53 (eleven years ago)

http://snappingphotos.com/wp-content/plugins/yet-another-photoblog/YapbThumbnailer.php?post_id=38&w=600

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:53 (eleven years ago)

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3499/3183242174_9c031c77aa_z.jpg?zz=1

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:54 (eleven years ago)

haha jinx

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:54 (eleven years ago)

the real answer is the Prague Spring.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:54 (eleven years ago)

http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/raccoon-coffee.png

Evan, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:55 (eleven years ago)

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/3/8/2/4/3/8/1/starbucks-overrated-lifestyle-coffee-124278086015.png

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:55 (eleven years ago)

2004? http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/31/arts/music/31sann.html?ei=5088&en=bae986089f3d2d35&ex=1256965200&partner=rssnyt&pagewanted=all&position=&_r=1&

Mordy

Great shout as an early misguided attempt. Ashlee Simpson happened though, before ironic cool tmblr wave, so she had no real options for crossover appeal other than what she tried. And it was never going to work. It was only possible for this sort of thing to work at a certain recent time in our history. The /wmv is the clue to why.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:56 (eleven years ago)

“Overrated and a Waste of Money”
2 of 5 stars Reviewed 4 March 2014

Yes, it's a great place to chill out, but to be honest there are better (or at least just as good) coffee places to go nearby. Don't waste your money just because of the name. Go somewhere else for a fraction of the price.
Visited July 2013
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Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:56 (eleven years ago)

This Starbucks is always busy so get used to it. Starbucks is overrated and over priced anyway. The only thing I ever get from here is an iced green tea or a green tea frap. The coffee sucks.

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:57 (eleven years ago)

https://img0.etsystatic.com/028/0/5449023/il_340x270.658601286_depd.jpg

Evan, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:58 (eleven years ago)

First off, Starbucks sucks. Their only good drink is the Caramel Frap. Starbucks is probably the most overrated cafe in the history of the world.

The only reason I gave this two stars is because the service isn't bad.

Starbucks is also a smoke-free environment, which is stupid. Are you kidding me? Yeah, I'm a smoker and cigarette is a compliment to coffee as much as sugar or creamer.

The crowd that comes here varies, and may affect your experience.

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:58 (eleven years ago)

Unlike most, I think Starbucks is quite overrated and too expensive. When my office was nearby I went there fairly often. Now almost never and I wonder why I ever went there. The coffee always tastes burnt and ALWAYS requires "additives" to make it palatable. The pastries they sell are grossly over-priced and mediocre at best. Bread Compny or Eiensteins are always better choices.

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:59 (eleven years ago)

I've always thought Starbucks was overrated. To me, they are like the Walmart of the coffee world - too ubiquitous and not as great as their reputation makes them out to be.

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:59 (eleven years ago)

the brownies are good!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:00 (eleven years ago)

where's dave cool when you need him

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:01 (eleven years ago)

starbucks

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:02 (eleven years ago)

who the fuck is huevo?

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:07 (eleven years ago)

2004: Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone

MarkoP, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:08 (eleven years ago)

http://library.indstate.edu/about/units/rbsc/kirk/images/sm1909_i_love.jpg

a total laugh package (s.clover), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:33 (eleven years ago)

no one came to my lieder parties after that one hit the charts

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:37 (eleven years ago)

Sorry Maura isn't there a VMA's best dressed article you should be writing about now?

Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 21 November 2014 00:35 (eleven years ago)

i bet if i found out how old you were i'd be bummed out

i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 November 2014 00:36 (eleven years ago)

haha sick burn dude the vmas were in september

maura, Friday, 21 November 2014 00:41 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6KOEMJKdEI

maura, Friday, 21 November 2014 00:43 (eleven years ago)

otm

example (crüt), Friday, 21 November 2014 00:45 (eleven years ago)

probably no one mentioned it because we all demolished it when it came out
-maura

By blasting Paramore at full blast and locking yourself in your room?

Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 21 November 2014 00:47 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsrQYVanGO0
My job is done. Weingarten showing himself as the bitter cretin he is. Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam.

example (crüt), Friday, 21 November 2014 00:47 (eleven years ago)

still can't figure whether tanuki will turn out to be one of the likely suspects or some heretofore unnoticed follower of rockwrite who could lurk no longer

da croupier, Friday, 21 November 2014 00:50 (eleven years ago)

By blasting Paramore at full blast and locking yourself in your room?

― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:47 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh honey if you're gonna place yourself as a smarter-than-thou pedant you should at least do a google news search. anyway have fun bashing your tail against bricks

maura, Friday, 21 November 2014 00:50 (eleven years ago)

ooooh what if it's dero, possessed by the symbiote

da croupier, Friday, 21 November 2014 00:53 (eleven years ago)

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Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 21 November 2014 01:07 (eleven years ago)

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maura, Friday, 21 November 2014 01:12 (eleven years ago)

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Moka, Friday, 21 November 2014 01:33 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUpaHawFLUk

i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 November 2014 01:37 (eleven years ago)

raccoon tanuki do you have bennies

mookieproof, Friday, 21 November 2014 01:58 (eleven years ago)

JUST FUN TIMES ON THE INTERWEBZ Y'ALL

search datpiff, you'll find it (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:00 (eleven years ago)

xpost IM SAYIN. ott has been my half-serious pet theory this whole time, although as some dude pointed out in the goon thread ott doesn't exactly (one assumes) know enough about rap to fake it for a troll sock identity

search datpiff, you'll find it (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:01 (eleven years ago)

dude most likely spends too much time refreshing pitchfork for indie buzz bands he can mock and/or/including angrily staring at ryan schreiber's name on the masthead to pay much attention to even what p4k considers cover-able rap

search datpiff, you'll find it (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:03 (eleven years ago)

i think he's mad abt interpol being stuck in the snow right now

i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:23 (eleven years ago)

lol def seems that way

search datpiff, you'll find it (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:26 (eleven years ago)

or i should say he's mad AT interpol for being stuck in a huge blizzard as far as i could tell?

i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:29 (eleven years ago)

My theory: Rollie Pemberton?

Tim F, Friday, 21 November 2014 03:06 (eleven years ago)

OH SHIIIIITTTTT cadence weapon himself lol

search datpiff, you'll find it (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 November 2014 03:22 (eleven years ago)

I want to say RT is Tal Bachman but then RT hates DYNASTIES such as THE BACHMAN FAMILY MUSIC DYNASTY

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 21 November 2014 03:25 (eleven years ago)

this got weird today

Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 21 November 2014 05:09 (eleven years ago)

this thread won't load for me, am grateful

lex pretend, Friday, 21 November 2014 09:43 (eleven years ago)

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da croupier, Friday, 21 November 2014 20:33 (eleven years ago)

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Moka, Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:04 (eleven years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/lS6KaaR.jpg

Moka, Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:06 (eleven years ago)

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Moka, Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:07 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HssG4N-tatY

los blue jeans, Saturday, 22 November 2014 01:07 (eleven years ago)

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los blue jeans, Saturday, 22 November 2014 01:22 (eleven years ago)

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linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 22 November 2014 01:24 (eleven years ago)

^ raccoon related trust me

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 22 November 2014 01:26 (eleven years ago)

My theory: Rollie Pemberton?

― Tim F, Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:06 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc Rollie actually likes people?

I Love Makonnen: New Answers (The Reverend), Saturday, 22 November 2014 03:08 (eleven years ago)

RP probably wouldn't be dumb enough to say this about the assault by Masta Killa on Cheo Coker over some drawings in a magazine: Including punching smarmy snidey bullshit music journalists of the type we see posting here.

ILoveMeconium (President Keyes), Saturday, 22 November 2014 03:54 (eleven years ago)

rollie is a good guy iirc and not the sort to do this sorta sockin'

Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 22 November 2014 05:23 (eleven years ago)

No that's probably true, it just would have explained the rap knowledge.

Tim F, Saturday, 22 November 2014 05:29 (eleven years ago)

i like the idea that we have to explain rap knowledge.

a total laugh package (s.clover), Saturday, 22 November 2014 05:40 (eleven years ago)

did RT drift over here from 4chan or something? his argumentative style is... the word "callow" comes to mind.

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 22 November 2014 06:31 (eleven years ago)

My theory: Rollie Pemberton?

― Tim F, Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:06 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

raccoon is a brit; don't knock edmonton unless you've been there and have then many an excuse

soma's little yelpers (lion in winter), Saturday, 22 November 2014 07:07 (eleven years ago)

Is that why he hates america?

Moka, Saturday, 22 November 2014 07:30 (eleven years ago)

Yeah rollie was p chill

i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 22 November 2014 13:25 (eleven years ago)

Hard to believe a former Stylus colleague would post this twaddle.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 November 2014 13:34 (eleven years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/wza5DUA.gif

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 22 November 2014 14:35 (eleven years ago)


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