Best Ty Dolla $ign Atlantic Roster Stimulus Record

and none of these were/are hits lol

"RNGM" is the only that's partic great i think, it's too bad it got wasted on an artist with pretty much zero commercial prospects bcuz the beat/hook are really good ... it feels like a retrofitted version of "my cabana" that could've been a hit with a radio rapper on the verses

the "drunk af" beat is pretty fun but doesn't really congeal. the part of the chorus where ty harmonizes is really nice.

"1 time" would've been a good ty solo track.

"next to it" is fine .... i don't really hear what's great about the new wiz thing, sounds like a pretty typical track from him imo

Atlantic making strange bedfellows of their roster is definitely a thing but yeah i don't see how Ty being on a lot of people's records is especially noteworthy within that.

"Next To It" is pretty great, such an unexpected chemistry between Lupe and Ty and one of the producers from Sa-Ra Creative Partners. Lupe tweeted that Ty was a member of Sa-Ra when he first worked with them in '07 but i guess that's not right is it? but i guess he was hanging with them back then?

p much all those guys do is hang out so yeah

ppl tend to invoke that link as proof of ty's hidden depths but really i'd say it said much more about neo soul's shallow cool

Am I really supposed to listen to an 8-minute Wiz Khalifa song?

'next to it' + RNGM are cool

listenied to that wiz thing a couple of times. would prob enjoy it more in album context which is a shame because i'm not gonna listen to a wiz khalifa album

"RNGM" is all time so this is a no brainer

"RNGM" is the only that's partic great i think

Wrong. Every one of these is great.

This wiz record is so much better than the average recent wiz record. Listen again

No one said they were "hits". It's a creative stimulus not a top 40 one. But who gives a fuck, rap /r&b radio has never been as weak as it is now

obviously a 9 minute song suite isn't a hit record. It's just the best thing wiz has been involved with in years

In 2004 something like "next to it" would have been top 40 and everyone would like it but 90% of writers in 2015 will only stand up for a record of they sense a large amount of social energy behind it

Re: Ty/neo soul I think he himself spins it as a part of his I'm a thoughtful musician bona fides with the press -- his original group, Ty and kory, was more like dilla influenced r&b, though.

He was basically like, I wanted to make sa ra/ post dilla music but no girls ever came to the shows

"creative stimulus" is a hilarious way to describe what is going on here

No one said they were "hits". It's a creative stimulus not a top 40 one. But who gives a fuck, rap /r&b radio has never been as weak as it is now

obviously a 9 minute song suite isn't a hit record. It's just the best thing wiz has been involved with in years

― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, January 11, 2015 10:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

isn't this much the same argument deej was arguing against in the azealia banks thread. "but she's not commercial" etc etc etc

a popular artist/hook singer getting put on a bunch of records by other artists with flagging or no popularity is not a new phenomenon in rap as we all know

i'm not quite sure how this is much different... all of these songs sound like solo ty tracks with random ppl grafted onto them anyway

Lol really lex

Azaelia banks would not be anywhere near the charts in 2002 either

a popular artist/hook singer getting put on a bunch of records by other artists with flagging or no popularity is not a new phenomenon in rap as we all know

i'm not quite sure how this is much different... all of these songs sound like solo ty tracks with random ppl grafted onto them anyway

― J0rdan S., Monday, January 12, 2015 9:43 AM (21 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They don't though, that's exactly the point. They're actually written to the specifics of the artists involved.

ok

"Next to it" is great bc it is totally written to complement Lupe's essential lupe-ness. Ditto the wiz record ...in fact you were just saying it sounds like a typical wiz record now you're saying it sounds like Ty, which is it? The answer is that its Ty building on his collaborators core sound rather than running from it or contrasting with it. Enhancing that artist's general vibe

I don't know what's so funny about a creative stimulus as an idea, these are mostly washed up or lame label artists responsible for generally lame sub par trash of late and he's helped them all produce great songs by encouraging them to be themselves

As opposed to b.o.b.'s typical cynicism trying to be everyone to all ppl

the wiz song is the only one that really sounds like the artist, but wiz's sound is so pervasive especially as it pertains to beach house that pulling apart the strands is pointless

You don't think "next to it," a concept record that only works if the rapper writes details about things being next to other things, isn't a lupe fiasco track in literally every single way

At any rate I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue with here ... These are all washed up or uninspired Atlantic artists who happened to have made great records written by Ty, it's a pretty straightforward thread

i think you're seeing some strain of purity in these tracks because you're invested in ty as an auteur

i'm more cynical about why he's on songs by these artists

i do think it's a good idea for a thread though, as evidenced by the fact that i was the first one to post in it 20 hours after you made it

btw i think both the bob and snow tha product songs on here would be very good ty solo tracks if they didn't have worthless filler verses

same for the wiz one though he tends to sound good on those kinda tracks

i guess i'd feel more comfortable with the idea of ty as master tailor if 'stand for' didn't seem like such a bad fit

not that it really matters as he is simply way too creepy to ever prosper solo

i'm more cynical about why he's on songs by these artists

― J0rdan S., Monday, January 12, 2015 10:05 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bc hes on atlantic and writes hit records and atlantic is still technically responsible for making things happen with these artists

i guess i'd feel more comfortable with the idea of ty as master tailor if 'stand for' didn't seem like such a bad fit

― r|t|c, Monday, January 12, 2015 10:14 AM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

even editors need editors cmon now

i like but dont love 'stand for' but haven't given much thought as to why, similar concept worked better as that song at the end of 'beach house' about his guys locked up in prison

same for the wiz one though he tends to sound good on those kinda tracks

― J0rdan S., Monday, January 12, 2015 10:14 AM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the wiz verse is pitch perfect for the record

i mean it's a low bar bc it's wiz, but he manages to not sink it & stay within concept and get deep (for wiz)—"who gives a fuck about money and material shit life's wasted"

tailor gang indeed

"stand for" is a good song, just a poor choice for a single -- we can split the hairs here pretty easily

i can't blame anyone for having already forgotten Stalley's entire existence, but this came out on Atlantic, and unlike 4/5ths of the poll options i actually heard it on the radio a few times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS969DYxUSY

i kind of assumed "Stand For" was never really intended for radio and was just kind of released to cast him in a different light before they properly launch the album with "Booger Woofs (Can Buy Their Own Drinks)" or whatever.

lol

good call on the stalley record

I like the new Stalley album!

"1 time" would've been a good ty solo track.

coming back to point out that what makes this song work is the interplay between the two artists, totally wouldn't work as a ty solo record

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i honestly had no idea Alley Boy was a going concern for anybody, don't think i've heard that name more than twice since 2010

Lol @ the songs with zero votes obviously being the ones no one had heard before this poll

"Tall" was the total jam tho xp

Lol @ you starting a poll with only two options anybody had heard and then remarking upon it as if you couldn't expect the result

Yes what an overwhelming list of songs to need to process for the unfamiliar

People actually voted in this poll?

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if its such an irrelevant thread u should save your irrelevant bullshit for other threads

well this charli xcx/tinashe record is trash garbage smh

time to bring out "Booger Woofs (Can Buy Their Own Drinks)"

i heard this bob/trey songz song on the radio the other day and until i heard the verses i thought it might be some random dancehall song i had never heard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjlzq-e2NE4

produced by p-lo!!

i don't mind "drop that kitty" but a "fancy" remake was the most boring possible outcome of the ty/charli team up

i like ty's verses though

well this charli xcx/tinashe record is trash garbage smh

lol i thought this to myself last night

tinashe tries really hard tbf

"Not For Long" is def one of the best songs B.o.B has ever bought, it's like "Hold On, We're Going Home" but good but also with bad rap verses

No song as obvious as "kitty" sounds good on first listen but it'll grow on everybody even if they don't want it to; it's Ty's "Shake It Off"

i think it's more likely his "Guap"

The BOB/MMTS has lowkey been my radio jam for a minute

I think Tinashe sounds great on "Drop That Kitty". Listened to it twice and couldn't tell you a thing about Ty's bits though, he's completely overshadowed by the two women (as imo Iggy was for the most part on "Fancy")

xp Ditto on the BOB track. It's super pleasant. There's a hundred ways they could have dialed it up into something loud and obnoxious and probably a bigger hit than it is, but they resisted them and I really appreciate that

Yeah, well said

No one overshadowed anyone the song is just bad front to back

Drop that kitty I mean, not the mmts

lol i love "drop that kitty" more than anything else ty's done since "my cabana"

charli's hook is so much better than her "fancy" one which was a bit lurching for my tastes. it's got bite to it, i appreciate her bringing an up middle finger attitude to the strip club

tinashe does try very hard but it's like her "jealous" remix, she still sounds like she's having fun singing in this way that she doesn't on her own material

great pop song

the bob/mmts is definitely a low-key bump as well

it has some pretty amazingly bad lyrics though, almost so bad they're endearing. "i'mma pop up in your browser"...

https://soundcloud.com/macmediapromo/papoose-f-remy-ma-ty-dolla-ign-michael-jackson-produced-by-ron-browz

This is like the biggest longshot so far maybe?

I can't listen right now but lmao that url wow

god damn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt-jrOmcy3Q

just to troll Al, IMO "Real Friends" belongs ITT as well

minus the whole kanye being on def jam thing

it does, it really does

Feel like I’m owed an apology

Sorry man, amazing poll

Seriously yo a Ty Dolla Sign feature is becomin the most essential component to any good song

— Lawrence Burney (@TrueLaurels) June 29, 2018

Haven't paid much attention to ILM in 10-12 years but this thread must have the best title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFZBMPg2y3w

Five sounds. One tune. Atlantic Records and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles team up to celebrate the 2015 American Music Awards with help from Charlie Puth, Brett Eldredge, Ty Dolla $ign and Sofia Reyes. #DriveTheBeat

Thanks Andy!

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/564248/?__twitter_impression=true

Ty Dolla $ign is, after all, the consummate collaborator, a man whose voice provides a kaleidoscopic range of musical possibilities to any artist he works with. He is studied and surgical, his vocal choices and melodic references revealing a love of music that extends far beyond the riffs of his contemporaries. On Scorpion, and several other recent records, Ty Dolla Sign’s voice lifts the work of his collaborators from good to great.

he's apparently a hell of a bass player too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc-UG6gTWM4

nice vid, way too short

yeah wish it was an hour

Great Questlove Supreme episode: https://www.pandora.com/station/play/4021281642678126617

i think it's cool that ty keeps showing up on major albums... he's a huge music nerd and i totally get how him and kanye could have a strong bond just on that level. i also think it's more interesting to think about his accenting said records than it is to listen to in reality

depends on the song

there are easily 50 examples of it 'working' the way its described in that paragraph though

im talking mainly about kanye and drake albums

his verse on "after dark" is amazing tho

This guy really took on his biggest challenge yet

lol. "r.n.g.m." was so good. i wonder what alley boy is up to.