Pazz and Jop 2014 results

Huzzah.

pretty psyched about D'Angelo winning, especially given the alternatives if he hadn't released the album when he did

albums list: not mad
singles list: wtf

amen to the rev

i've tried with that future islands song and i don't think it's "bad" but i don't hear what's particularly special about it

at least i wasn't the only vote for "quarterback" or "babylon system"

lol @ Spoon breaking into the albums top 10. iirc (only a few) people were excited about that for approximately two weeks last year and then all talk of it vanished.

I didn't expect D to win the albums poll, but good for him!

lol @ Spoon breaking into the albums top 10. iirc (only a few) people were excited about that for approximately two weeks last year and then all talk of it vanished.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, January 13, 2015 1:04 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^
yeah this was startling, this album had no staying power for me

More excited about Sturgill Simpson placing in the top ten (yeah, that album is my token country album, so whaaaat) than D'Angelo, whose Voodoo is my favorite album released during my lifetime, topping it. Hmm.

OF COURSE DeRo voted for "All About That Bass"

makes sense that a late release won it to me, felt like a year when a lot of people were still looking for an AOTY at year-end and along came d'angelo. not that it's not worthy (esp given the alternatives) but everyone who voted for it did so having spent 10 days max with it.

the singles list looks batty but again it was a year when there weren't many big AND critically acclaimed singles. 24 votes for "all about that bass", more trolls among p&j voters than on ilx!

"the pazz and jop is going to be so boring and predictable you guys"

if anyone who didn't submit a ballot ever paid attention to this thing, they won't now that it's a VVM slideshow listicle

more interested in glenn's stats-crunching than the results per se!

if anyone who didn't submit a ballot ever paid attention to this thing, they won't now that it's a VVM slideshow listicle

― james brooks, Tuesday, January 13, 2015 2:10 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

every list is on one page, just like previous years, I get the sentiment but come on

also it's not like i could name that many songs that would've been more predictable to see in the p&j top 10

Heck of a fall from #1 for tuneyards, considering that she actually made a really good record.

where did she place? i haven't looked closely enough at all results

Pete Ubu nowhere to be seen this year

there are four separate versions of "tuesday" plus a footnote about tuesday

xp tuneyards is at 29 -- I would've figured her for at least top 20.

(I mean, I didn't think the last one was really a #1 album, so I guess if you average the two you get something fair.)

they got the zz part right

Surprised at Sam Smith's low placing on the albums list

there are four separate versions of "tuesday" plus a footnote about tuesday

― katherine, Tuesday, January 13, 2015 2:20 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good lord, so once they fix that it'll probably be the #2 single

oh n/m the footnote says the total for the #6 entry includes the 18 votes from alt versions

Just clicking around people's ballots, I noticed that one mention of Wussy's "Attica!" on Mike Barthel's ballot was mis-entered as "Shake It" on "Attica Records," which would put it just above YG.

Azealia Banks at #14 really surprised me.

For the first time I had a few picks where I was the only voter. Feels good.

Furia hasn't always asked for a password has it?

^^i was just about to ask that

2 votes for "Track 3"

Brad and I the only ones here to vote for The Way I'm Livin'

Honestly I forgot that Brody Dalle even released an album!

would've been in my top 20, 10 still seems too small a ballot

xp

So Makonnen got kinda screwed over, no? He's listed twice - 6 and 39 - with the same song, the only difference being Drake.

Jeff W, those two votes were for "Style".

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/singles/2014/QWxsIEFib3V0IFRoYXQgQmFzc3x8fE1lZ2hhbiBUcmFpbm9y/

xp
I doubt it (given one of the voters didn't vote for any other singles). For this more likely:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/eight-seconds-of-white-noise-is-top-of-the-canadian-itunes-chart-because-people-love-taylor-swift-that-much-9809022.html

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/singles/2014/QWxsIEFib3V0IFRoYXQgQmFzc3x8fE1lZ2hhbiBUcmFpbm9y/

― k3vin k., Tuesday, January 13, 2015 1:54 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Good old DeRo!

Ugh, I now realize there was so much I could've voted for w/o resorting to reissues. For instance, Sharon Jones, Bob Mould and Shellac.

scrollin' thru voters list, always a couple ppl i didn't know were critics.

Ha, Trainor was Dero's only singles vote. Nihilistic ballot.

as someone who thought that war on drugs album was the dullest shit ever i'm not thrilled to see it at number three but i'm all HAHA SUCKAZ that it got locked out of the one and two slots.

People be lovin' Syro

(which I liked, but not enough to vote for it)

scrollin' thru voters list, always a couple ppl i didn't know were critics.

― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, January 13, 2015 2:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They might not be.

And I really should've included Courtney Barnett's "Avant Gardener" in my singles list. Fortunately others did.

Wow U2 got slammed. 12 voters and I don't even recognise any of them.

Also lower than I expected: Wild Beasts, Black Keys, Jack White, Jessie Ware, Eno/Hyde, Schoolboy Q, Springsteen, Damon Albarn, Pharrell, Future, Mac DeMarco, Sam Smith.

we need a Rolling Growling Cornball Thread for all (future) Future Islands updates

jaymc, i know at least one voter who is not a critic per se -- wfmu md/dj Brian T -- but what other categories do voters fall into?

Former critics who are still on the e-mail list.

Glenn, I first read "orgcore" as "ogrecore" and thought, sweet! But what is orgcore?

orgcore, the name, came from punknews.org. It's the kind of punk music that got talked about there.

like warped tour punk?

http://open.spotify.com/user/glennpmcdonald/playlist/1hLadJClq9oERcLtWnfB5m

hey glenn, is there a way to punch those http spotify links into my spotify client directly? i hate the web interface so much.

Yes, just copy and paste them, whole, into the desktop-client search box.

I imagine they've tightened the requirements for getting a ballot since then.
― Johnny Fever

I'm semi-living proof they haven't.

Great to see the Platinumlove here (for Lambert's album, I mean---though btw, I voted for this year's deluxe edition of Beyonce's Platinum, which got its title shortened to that of the plain ol' 2013 release.in P&J's posted version of my ballot. Oh well, the expanded edition was even better, but not drastically different than the original, at least in comparing the audio-only versions, dunno about the box incl. DVDs).
But meant to say: since I only had ten slots, I saved all my country picks for the Nashville Scene ballot, the results of which are due on Jan. 22, I believe. Wonder if anybody else did that? Seems like it might have affected the P&J totals, in some cases.

Wait--Beyonce's last minute 2013 original just s/t; her Platinum *is* the Deluxe Edition---sorry for wasting moments of y'all's lives w that!

it was about a year ago that I heard that Future Island tune: I disliked it immediately down to the fella's singing…but I will give credit in that it was immediately striking, in the same way that I disliked Alanis "You Oughta Know" but it was memorable from the git-go…

but I just watched that video from Letterman above… and…

are those guys like known by everybody in Baltimore? does Dan Deacon or Drew Daniel know them? wasn't there some Ballmurr indie boomlet in 2008 or 2009 or something? I get a "we variously tried to do the Tonic/Stabbing westward thing, then moved onto Hoobstank a decade ago, and then (which band do you think inspired their thing?) motivated us thusly… " feeling from them. I dunno, watching that guy stepping around like such a goof makes me have a glimmer of affection for 'em…

just hearing this year's #1 SINGLE WINNER for the first time; i kind of like his singing, and i do like the idea of indie people going for bigness and reach, but man the backing track is bad

the karaoke machine preset was "Atlantic Starr"

I've hated so many singles winners over the years, or at the very least have been mystified as to how they won. That song, based only on that performance, fits in somewhere on that spectrum. (I realize it topped a number of polls, not just Pazz & Jop.)

This was the Future Islands jam five years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvwZ6ylPh98

I dunno, an "indie rock" artist hasn't topped the P&J singles list since, what, Beck did in 1994?

If it's gonna happen I'm psyched it's one with the passion and power and ability of a major label pop act

I don't mind "Seasons" but wow that song you just posted is terrible.

Franz Ferdinand's "Take Me Out" topped in 2004

with almost twice as many votes (145)

a decade ago 75 votes would have put you in 9th place, just above "maps" and (lolll) "vertigo"

that said "vertigo" > "seasons"

Franz Ferdinand's "Take Me Out" topped in 2004

― da croupier, Wednesday, January 14, 2015 6:23 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I said "indie rock" not arena dorks playing Gang of Four riffs

I guess they were on an indie, so fine, first in 10 years

Pretty song when he's not singing. Not to fail to keep up with the new, but "Loser" next to "Seasons" seems like a painful mismatch to me. (Totally arbitrary comparison--maybe I'll love next year's winner even more than "Loser.")

oh whiney

and to think Platinum was on your ballot.

"loser" was already long rereleased-by-dgc buzz bin material when it topped p'n'j too. it received 3 votes in '93 courtesy of bong load.

oddly enough loser is another rare <100-vote #1

actually nevermind, the pazz voting pool was considerably lower pre-ethernet, lotta <100 winners back then

as a hater of all these songs

loser >>> take me out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seasons

i mean i can see why people might love "loser" and beck has character that's more than hammy overacting on light entertainment tv, and "take me out" has...er...a bit of it is catchy i think? i can't remember. but anyway "seasons" doesn't have have the appeal of those

hard for me to enjoy "take me out" at all because it reminds me of all the other melodically-bankrupt rock radio hits that were played out at that time

i remember there was a glut of really, really terrible indie rock around 04 and franz ferdinand got plaudits because they stood out for merely being mediocre. such a boring band tho

there are some typos on the p'n'j stuff in xgau's site, but if it can be trusted the last song to top p'n'j with 75 or fewer votes was quad city djs in '96 with 34 out of 236 ballots cast. 612 voted this year.

in '95 almost a third of the ballots cast had "gangsta's paradise" on them

there's little that cures fretting over current p&j results like looking back over past ones and realising how strange and/or shit and/or inaccurate either personally or otherwise they seem in retrospect

what a year

1. Coolio: "Gangsta's Paradise" (MCA Soundtracks) 81
2. Edwyn Collins: "A Girl Like You" (Bar/None/A&M) 48
Alanis Morissette: "You Oughta Know" (Maverick/Reprise) 48
4. Elastica: "Connection" (DGC) 39 *
5. TLC: "Waterfalls" (LaFace) 38
6. Joan Osborne: "One of Us" (Blue Gorilla/Mercury) 34
7. PJ Harvey: "Down by the Water" (Island) 31
8. TLC: "Creep" (LaFace) 30 *
9. Dionne Farris: "I Know" (Columbia) 22
Shaggy: "Boombastic" (Virgin) 22
11. Oasis: "Wonderwall" (Epic) 21
12. Foo Fighters: "This Is a Call" (Roswell/Capitol) 20
The Presidents of the United States of America: "Lump" (Columbia) 20
14. Method Man: "I'll Be There for You"/"You're All I Need To Get By" (Featuring Mary J. Blige) (Def Jam) 19
15. Foo Fighters: "I'll Stick Around" (Roswell/Capitol) 17
Matthew Sweet: "Sick of Myself" (Zoo) 17
17. Portishead: "Sour Times" (London) 16 *
Seal: "Kiss From a Rose" (ZTT/Sire/Warner Bros.) 16
Skee-Lo: "I Wish" (Scotti Bros./Sunshine) 16
20. Goo Goo Dolls: "Name" (Metal Blade/Warner Bros.) 15
Smashing Pumpkins: "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" (Virgin) 15
22. Elastica: "Stutter" (DGC) 14 *
Filter: "Hey Man Nice Shot" (Reprise) 14
Garbage: "Queer" (Almo Sounds) 14
Luniz: "I Got 5 on It" (Noo Trybe) 14

another factoid in perspective.

in 2014, 75 out of 612 p'n'j voters put "seasons" in their top 10 singles.

in 2001, 86 out of 622 p'n'j voters put "clint eastwood" in their top 10 singles.

176 voted for "get ur freak on" that year, though

1. Coolio: "Gangsta's Paradise" (MCA Soundtracks) 81
2. Edwyn Collins: "A Girl Like You" (Bar/None/A&M) 48
3. Alanis Morissette: "You Oughta Know" (Maverick/Reprise) 48
4. Elastica: "Connection" (DGC) 39 *
5. TLC: "Waterfalls" (LaFace) 38

okay that's a seriously great top five

are those guys like known by everybody in Baltimore? does Dan Deacon or Drew Daniel know them? wasn't there some Ballmurr indie boomlet in 2008 or 2009 or something? I get a "we variously tried to do the Tonic/Stabbing westward thing, then moved onto Hoobstank a decade ago, and then (which band do you think inspired their thing?) motivated us thusly… " feeling from them. I dunno, watching that guy stepping around like such a goof makes me have a glimmer of affection for 'em…

― veronica moser, Wednesday, January 14, 2015 4:54 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

those guys are all originally from North Carolina and it was Dan Deacon (another transplant) who convinced them to come to Baltimore. and like Dan they were welcome with open arms because their preexisting sound/aesthetic just fit in with what the natives were doing and it was clear they were contributing something worthwhile to the scene.

1984 had a pretty good top five too:

1. Prince: "When Doves Cry"/"17 Days" (Warner Bros.) 111*
2. Bruce Springsteen: "Dancing in the Dark"/"Pink Cadillac" (Columbia) 71*
3. Tina Turner: "What's Love Got To Do With It" (Capitol) 61
4. Hüsker Dü: "Eight Miles High" (SST) 56
5. Van Halen: "Jump" (Warner Bros.) 52

One more tiny number thing:

Before this year, the most song-votes a remix ever got was 8, which happened twice: Britney Spears' "Till the World Ends (Femme Fatale Remix)" and David Bowie's "Love Is Lost (Hello Steve Reich Mix by James Murphy)".

This year, Beyoncé's "***Flawless (Remix)" got 17 and ILoveMakonnen's "Club Goin' Up on a Tuesday" Drake remix got 16.

So you're not counting "Ignition (Remix)" (70) or "Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix)" (16)?

"Loser" is hot garbage, son.

Yeah, I meant a remix of a song that also got votes in its original form. And I should have also said 2008-2014, as I was only looking at my data.

That Wussy (which I just heard) album is fine, but I'd love to know why I should be excited by it.

Like, it's basically the Handsome Family plus Eleventh Dream Day, which is maybe what makes it critic bait. It's a cult band cocktail.

Cheers. My take, from Please Tell Me About Wussy
Tried to say it on Twitter last week:
Wussy, Attica!: luvly noise x melody ---> strata of time & space as boondocks, astute students of Neil Y, hot peers of Truckers, Hold Steady.
Thinking of narrators, "characters" or not, with personal history incl musical influences: where the DBT & THS comparisons come in. The Beautiful Losers bit on every track, but no prob listening over and over, which I rarely do with other albums Also, with The Hold Steady not holding steady with the quality, more room for another act with somewhat similar sensibility. The female vocals def help, as they usually do; I'm not that into most male rock voices.

Oh my god I just opened the first essay and...

It was an even worse year for police officers and grand juries.

FUCK. THIS.

i mean he's not sympathizing with them

it was awkwardly written. I thought an editor should have changed it.