Acts the ILM hivemind 180'd on

Which are the acts and artists we've changed our minds about?

There are probably a lot more examples of acts we loved who fell out of favour. But what's especially amusing is to read some of the quite bizarre opinions about Joni Mitchell at the beginning of this thread: Joni Mitchell: Classic or Dud and to compare these with the rabid praise further down.

Anyone else?

What's bizarre about not liking Joni Mitchell?

lol at that Joni thread. Reading early ILM is kind of like discovering graffiti scrawled on city walls during a long ago invasion by anti-rockist Vandals.

except in this case the vandals built the city

Flawed premise. No one hating on Joni at the beginning of that thread is or was part of the hivemind or "hivemind".

What you're seeing is the change in ILM from 2001 to now. Back then everyone felt compelled to comment on every thread even if they were cosmically wrong about everything.

real hivemind shift here was the turn against Kanye around 2010, since its something that didn't seem to happen outside ILM

There's definitely a lot less thread-bombing from people who dislike an artist now. probably due to the fact we don't really do C/D threads so much anymore. Still, even though I'm sure there are still Ilxors who don't care all that much for Joni, it's pretty mad to think that online music fans in 2001 were generally in agreement that Joni was an annoying-voiced folk strumming bore. The board and its members have changed, of course, but I wonder how much the views on that thread were a reflection of public opinion of the artist. It's not uncommon for veteran acts to fall out of favour for some years before being welcomed back into people's hearts.

The Streets

Youll find the same responses from the same posters on the neil young: classic or dud thread. Tim is right in saying that everyone (and there was a small number at the time) felt compelled to comment on every thread. There was certainly more of a anti-rockist SMASH THE SACRED COWS impulse back then. Refreshing and different to read at the time but a bit reactionary (and cosmically wrong) too.

it's pretty mad to think that online music fans in 2001 were generally in agreement that Joni was an annoying-voiced folk strumming bore.

Notwithstanding the fact that she is some of the time, I don't think there was any 'general online agreement'. Someone like Alex In NYC is about the last person on the planet I would expect to like Joni Mitchell or to be part of any ILM hivemind.

LOL @ Alex as 'anti-rockist' too

is there anyone left on the board who is still interested in smashing the sacred cows of classic rock?

Don't think so but I believe there is still someone here who would smash Henry Cow.

There's a lot of hate for Bruce at the beginning of the Springsteen C/D thread.

Like Telling the Beatles to Fuck Off, for instance?

Springsteen is a good one , because he got hip when my back was turned.

who is still interested in smashing the sacred cows of classic rock?
http://img.soundtrackcollector.com/cd/large/Who_is_killing_chefs_europe_EPIC_SE35692.jpg

ILM; The Challopy Years

TTBtFO isn't about the Beatles per se

Azealia Banks?

Speaking for myself, I did a 180 on Joni due to the Hejira / Hissing of Summer Lawns threads. Mostly a case of being ignorant and getting educated though, rather than it being some kind of aesthetic turnaround.

Springsteen is a good one , because he got hip when my back was turned.

― Walking Close to Melton Mowbray (Tom D.)

he got a new hip after his back started turning

for me, i hadn't really given joni any thought either way until 'court and spark' got mentioned in a st vincent interview approx 1 year ago and i picked it up, fell in love with it and never really looked back.

I did a 180 on Springsteen once Tom D's back was turned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hURfS6b3wVo

I am, was and will remain anti-Joni and pro-rockist.

Jedward?

More to the point, I don't believe my opinions were ever aligned with any greater ILX hive mind, but that's me.

If anything I've got even more bored with classic-rock-as-such -- it's not like my opinions on Springsteen have changed at all, for instance.

What you're seeing is the change in ILM from 2001 to now. Back then everyone felt compelled to comment on every thread even if they were cosmically wrong about everything.

― Tim F,

I've never stopped tbh. Why did nobody ever tell me things had changed?

Thurston Moore

This basically never happens without a) the component voices within the hivemind changing so that it's essentially an entirely different group of people or b) the act's quality control taking a massive dive like, say, The-Dream or Basement Jaxx.

The only case I can think of where the same group of people have basically abandoned an entire body of work is Chris Brown, and that's something of a special case.

& R. Kelly, maybe

Animal Collective, beloved here pre-Feels, official whipping boy post-Strawberry Jam

The Streets after "A grand don't come for free"

sometime this week I'm gonna make a post in a random thread containing the words "Alex in NYC" just to see if he pops up a day later

I don't think folks have abandoned r Kelly's music

Diplo?

Diplo is a pretty good answer actually.