First rapper to consistantly adlib?

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Puff? Master P? mef? Flav? tribe? clef? dmx? can't find any answer to this odd considering there isnt' a rapper out today who doesn't do it.

Arctic Noon Auk, Sunday, 15 March 2015 18:39 (ten years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71l6TMQG6eL._SL1000_.jpg

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2015 19:10 (ten years ago)

No, you've lost me there, nv.

Walking Close to Melton Mowbray (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 March 2015 19:14 (ten years ago)

give it a couple of hours

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 March 2015 19:17 (ten years ago)

Got all the time in the world, my friend.

Walking Close to Melton Mowbray (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 March 2015 19:18 (ten years ago)

Pete Rock & CL Smooth was always my thought

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 15 March 2015 20:15 (ten years ago)

i believe "ad rock" of the beastie boys was the first to "ad lib", hence the term

the late great, Sunday, 15 March 2015 20:18 (ten years ago)

Bob Dylan invented ad libs when he was at Ajax during the time of what came to be known as 'Total Rap', where he would literally 'ad lib' the ball into the back of the net. Not content with this, he later perfected the 'Bob Dylan turn' we so often see today not just in rap music but in the business community and even in politics, where a common trick is to 'ad lib' poor people into the ocean at night

anvil, Sunday, 15 March 2015 20:29 (ten years ago)

Pete Rock & CL Smooth was always my thought

― Whiney G. Weingarten,

great shout

i believe "ad rock" of the beastie boys was the first to "ad lib", hence the term

― the late great,

could u give song examples?

Arctic Noon Auk, Sunday, 15 March 2015 20:33 (ten years ago)

no

the late great, Sunday, 15 March 2015 20:35 (ten years ago)

true rap knowledge is earned, not given

the late great, Sunday, 15 March 2015 20:36 (ten years ago)

you're posting on a forum entitled "ask a question"

Arctic Noon Auk, Sunday, 15 March 2015 20:37 (ten years ago)

pwnd agane :-(

the late great, Sunday, 15 March 2015 20:38 (ten years ago)

E40 needs a shout

Arctic Noon Auk, Sunday, 15 March 2015 20:56 (ten years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/06/magazine/the-pernicious-rise-of-poptimism.html

qualx, Monday, 16 March 2015 00:37 (ten years ago)

Julio Iglesias

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 16 March 2015 01:07 (ten years ago)

Slick Rick comes to mind as one of the earliest guys i can think of who really frequently had a whole 2nd vocal track that was kind of adding conversational asides to his lyric (as opposed to just doubling up the main vocal track for emphasis)

some dude, Monday, 16 March 2015 01:11 (ten years ago)

^ god I love that so much

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Monday, 16 March 2015 02:22 (ten years ago)

when Ricky does it, not necessarily as a blanket principle

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Monday, 16 March 2015 02:27 (ten years ago)

slick rick was the first one that came to mind, he originated so much.

Arctic Noon Auk, Monday, 16 March 2015 08:07 (ten years ago)

Isn't ad lib from the Latin meaning to freedom?

&I thought ad lib predated rap as a form so it was there from the start. Probably something taken from the likes of James Brown to great degree. Also certainly there in toasting from reggae scene where I think it was adopted from. I think the early hip hop scene has been notedly adapted from Jamaican sound system clashes at least in the way they were held as public events.

Stevolende, Monday, 16 March 2015 08:27 (ten years ago)

Stevolende is pretty much right. Cowboy (of The Furious Five), who's often credited as the first proper MC, was doing stuff like that in 70s, way before rap was recorded:

If someone said somethin’ negative about the Furious he would just knock’em out. It sounds negative , but comin’ up the way that we did , you needed people like that around you. That’s just the street level , as far as his character besides being the first Emcee. People perceive Mel as being the top guy in our group , and he was the top lyricist , but nobody could rock the crowd like Cowboy. He could rock any crowd with no script , nothing written down. He would step on stage & ask “did y’all see the Knicks game tonight?” – just stuff that nobody else was sayin’ on stage , in addition to the “say ho”. He had the ability to really personalize the whole crowd like he knew everybody in there. That was his gift & his trademark. Even back then he said stuff like “all the single moms” and “all the sexy ladies say owwww” it was different hearing it back then because no one had said it before.

(From here http://www.thafoundation.com/cowboy.htm)

Tuomas, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 21:36 (ten years ago)

dnftt

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 21:40 (ten years ago)

i think ricky and pete rock could be answers, i think pete definitely is the precursor to puffy style "bad boy bad boy" ad libs whereas rick is a little more complex in that he has a lot of internal 2nd narrator/greek chorus vibe almost

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 21:41 (ten years ago)

Yeah, with Rick it was more a dialogue between the two halves of his brain.

raih dednelb (The Reverend), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 21:54 (ten years ago)

with Puffy it was a monologue from his half-a-brain

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 21:56 (ten years ago)

faced?

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 22:57 (ten years ago)


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