Best Album On This List of Punk Sellout Albums

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime 18
Green Day – Dookie 16
Jawbox – For Your Own Special Sweetheart 11
Against Me! – New Wave 7
Jawbreaker – Dear You 5
Thursday – War All the Time 3
Saves the Day – In Reverie 2
Blink-182 – Enema of the State 2
The Distillers – Coral Fang 2
Rancid – Indestructible 1
Cave In – Antenna 1
Bad Religion – Stranger than Fiction 1
Less Than Jake – Losing Streak 1
AFI – Sing the Sorrow 1
Rise Against – Siren Song of the Counter-Culture 0
Anti-Flag – For Blood and Empire 0
The Ataris – So Long 0
H2O – Go 0
The Offspring – Ixnay on the Hombre 0
ALL – Pummel 0


, Thursday, 2 April 2015 18:43 (ten years ago)

Probably between LTJ, Blink 182, Rancid, and AFI for me

, Thursday, 2 April 2015 18:43 (ten years ago)

Have only ever heard the Jehu, Bad Religion and Cave In records - awesome, decent and completely shite respectively.

yeovil knievel (NickB), Thursday, 2 April 2015 18:57 (ten years ago)

Dookie or Enema

flappy bird (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 2 April 2015 18:58 (ten years ago)

the answer to most questions is drive like jehu

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 April 2015 18:58 (ten years ago)

Voted Cave-In, Antenna's severely underrated.

Everything else apart from Drive Like Jehu I haven't even thought about since 2003 or so

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 2 April 2015 18:59 (ten years ago)

yank crime in a landslide

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:00 (ten years ago)

Feel like voting Yank Crime is not seriously engaging with this poll

, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:01 (ten years ago)

Used to love that Jawbox album, so that.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:08 (ten years ago)

xpost it's true, tbh i didn't look at the other options after yank crime

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:10 (ten years ago)

voted jawbox but could've easily gone w/ AFI, green day, thursday, jawbreaker, distillers.

kinda surprised war all the time is the "sellout" one seeing as how it's kinda difficult as far as early 2000s emo goes

pimento is a cheese, some call it the caviar of the south (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:11 (ten years ago)

Feel like voting Yank Crime is not seriously engaging with this poll

― 龜, Thursday, April 2, 2015 7:01 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in the UK it was on a not v big, now defunct indie label called Elemental but even ignoring that this feels otm. it will probably win tho

pissbaby nobody in the corner (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:46 (ten years ago)

i rate dookie, dear you, sing the sorrow and new wave, but war all the time is one of my fave albums ever so thursday is my vote

Mordy, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:49 (ten years ago)

In the end, went with Rancid. Hello Rockview imo is LTJ's big sell out album, STF is 'eh' for a BR album, and I didn't get into Blink until after my pop punk years

, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:56 (ten years ago)

very surprised that people have listened to indestructible

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 April 2015 20:07 (ten years ago)

most of these records are great though, i think only that ataris record is truly awful

personal favorite is in reverie, objective best (that hasn't already been absorbed into the post-hardcore canon like yank crime and fyoss) is new wave

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 April 2015 20:09 (ten years ago)

very surprised that people have listened to indestructible

― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, April 2, 2015 4:07 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

I have it on CD :(

, Thursday, 2 April 2015 20:19 (ten years ago)

hmm, punk albums...

Mark G, Thursday, 2 April 2015 20:20 (ten years ago)

Didn't see Dear You on there, so i voted incorrectly for Dookie, though Jawbox or Thursday were high on my list.

Fatalist AmandaPalmistry (irrational), Thursday, 2 April 2015 21:01 (ten years ago)

Feel like voting Yank Crime is not seriously engaging with this poll

Yeah, this. I've listened to Yank Crime way more than anything else on this list. but it doesn't feel like it falls in line with a lot of what else is here.

I really like Coral Fang, so Distillers it is!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 April 2015 21:52 (ten years ago)

Kinda wanted to vote for AFI but feel like StS wasn't really a big anything after they had already switched up their aesthetic for Black Sails

, Thursday, 2 April 2015 22:00 (ten years ago)

That might be my favorite Jawbox record.

polyphonic, Thursday, 2 April 2015 22:00 (ten years ago)

At the time it felt like Jawbox saw way more major label $s than Jehu. That may just have been a UK thing though.
The correct answer is of course Shudder To Think - Pony Express Record.

Oblique Strategies, Thursday, 2 April 2015 22:28 (ten years ago)

The correct answer is of course Shudder To Think - Pony Express Record.

Phew! You made me scroll back up to the list thinking I missed that!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 April 2015 22:29 (ten years ago)

question: was yank crime poorly received at the time by anyone?

i voted for it, jawbox close second

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 April 2015 22:42 (ten years ago)

Was Swami Recordings part of a major label?

polyphonic, Thursday, 2 April 2015 22:47 (ten years ago)

Oh it was on Interscope, right

polyphonic, Thursday, 2 April 2015 22:48 (ten years ago)

ignoring yank crime for the reasons listed, voting new wave over coral fang and dookie

da croupier, Thursday, 2 April 2015 23:02 (ten years ago)

i kinda get why coral fang is here but ironically it feels (and was) far less commercial than sing sing death house - part of my disappointment with it!

da croupier, Thursday, 2 April 2015 23:04 (ten years ago)

dear you

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 April 2015 23:10 (ten years ago)

Dookie is Green Day's best album but that is one band whose ticks got annoying.

Yank Crime is way better than the S/T. I don't think they were really all that well known. Rocket from the Crypt was more known.

Novelty is good but I think For Your Own Special Sweetheart is Jawbox's best and most distinctive music.

At least from my 90s midwest POV in Bloomington at the time, the band that went from cool to 'I HATE THOSE GUYS' over the course of like a summer was Urge Overkill. Jesus Lizard got dogged a bit too but the guys that would dog them would still go to the shows and say "they were better when..." I don't know, I kinda hated indie/punk snooty bullshit back then.

earlnash, Friday, 3 April 2015 00:33 (ten years ago)

Against Me, easily. I can't stand anything they did before that record.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 April 2015 00:37 (ten years ago)

Some odd choices in here. Tempted to vote Dear You just because of the savage reception it got.

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Friday, 3 April 2015 02:26 (ten years ago)

dear you is a great record that i think is rightfully considered a classic now

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 3 April 2015 02:37 (ten years ago)

its initial reception both makes total sense and no sense to me, it only sounds a little more polished than 24 hour revenge therapy

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 3 April 2015 02:37 (ten years ago)

list made more sense when i clicked thru - they're all major label debuts

da croupier, Friday, 3 April 2015 03:07 (ten years ago)

haha or if i'd looked at the link in the opening post, that was also a clue this wasn't an opinion-based list

da croupier, Friday, 3 April 2015 03:09 (ten years ago)

Gaunt - Bricks and Blackouts would have been a good one for this list but maybe people don't remember Gaunt but I tell u what pal Gaunt rules

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 April 2015 03:27 (ten years ago)

the whole "first/only albums on a major" thing is a weird criteria. Like in that case Burn Piano Island Burn should be on there (and I'd have happily voted for it as I do whenever possible)

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Friday, 3 April 2015 03:31 (ten years ago)

though of course ArtistDirect Records tanked pretty much immediately afterwards, quite possibly because they gave bands like The Blood Brothers a recording budget

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Friday, 3 April 2015 03:32 (ten years ago)

yank crime, but i might vote for jawbox anyway

lol i had no idea that blink 182 were considered pure enough to sell out. but i also tend to confuse them with sugar ray, so

mookieproof, Friday, 3 April 2015 04:40 (ten years ago)

Jawbox is a sell out? That's a fantastic record!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 3 April 2015 04:59 (ten years ago)

blink/afi or green day

Bringing the mosh (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 3 April 2015 06:54 (ten years ago)

Was somehow able to restrain from instinctively voting for Yank Crime and read the whole list first. Voted Dear You.

cwkiii, Friday, 3 April 2015 11:33 (ten years ago)

Hard to choose, but finally went with Jawbox.

Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Friday, 3 April 2015 13:15 (ten years ago)

the whole "first/only albums on a major" thing is a weird criteria. Like in that case Burn Piano Island Burn should be on there (and I'd have happily voted for it as I do whenever possible)

― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Thursday, April 2, 2015 11:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Ugh same

Feel like BB were never considered 'punk' - pretty squarely emo/hardcore

, Friday, 3 April 2015 13:47 (ten years ago)

Nah not even emo

, Friday, 3 April 2015 13:51 (ten years ago)

None of them are on the list, but I remember X's Under the Big Black Sun, Husker Du's Candy Apple Grey, and the Replacement's Pleased to Meet Me all getting charged with the same thing at the time, or at the very least of cleaning up their sound, which is probably true. Commercially, I doubt they sold more than 100,000 copies between them, and probably well under.

clemenza, Friday, 3 April 2015 14:25 (ten years ago)

I meant to say Tim--that was their first one on Sire.

Under the Big Black Sun made it to #76 on Billboard, Tim to #183, and Candy Apple Grey to #140. Not sure how that translates into sales--not very well, I would think.

clemenza, Friday, 3 April 2015 14:34 (ten years ago)

at least w/huskers it would not suprise me if the major label ones sold worse than some of the sst ones

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 5 April 2015 03:48 (ten years ago)

Jawbox/Jehu/Jawbreaker all incredible albums that I still play on the reg
"Savory" remains the most transcendent moment on all three for me to this day. An unreal single.

Walter Galt, Sunday, 5 April 2015 12:14 (ten years ago)

oh man it didn't even occur to me that this was list of "sellout" punk albums that had nothing before 1990 on it

that like, you can say "punk" over and over and people will assume you're talking about the green day era

da croupier, Sunday, 5 April 2015 16:41 (ten years ago)

Otm

Voting End of the Century

Οὖτις, Sunday, 5 April 2015 16:47 (ten years ago)

I still listen to that Jawbox one, so easy pick for me

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Sunday, 5 April 2015 16:48 (ten years ago)

Write-in vote for "Hit to Death in the Future Head"

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 5 April 2015 18:02 (ten years ago)

I feel like Shape of Punk to Come kinda fits in here too.

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Sunday, 5 April 2015 18:53 (ten years ago)

honestly the only kelly clarkson songs i can name are "since u been gone," "stronger" and "a moment like this" but i'm sure i've unknowingly heard tons more...

J. Sam, Sunday, 5 April 2015 18:57 (ten years ago)

Shape of punk wasn't on a major?

xpost

Fatalist AmandaPalmistry (irrational), Monday, 6 April 2015 14:54 (ten years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 00:01 (ten years ago)

Jawbox no hesitation

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 03:30 (ten years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 00:01 (ten years ago)


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