POLLIN' on the river — CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL (ILM artist poll #62) RESULTS THREAD

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21 ballots in total, with 16 albums ballots. I'll do the album countdown tonight & then start unrolling ILX's top 40 CCR songs tomorrow morning. 40-26 on Monday, 25-11 on Tuesday, with the top 10 rolling out on Wednesday. Huge thanks to everybody who voted! But you don't need a ballot just to hang around. People on this poll thread are happy to give.

First of all,

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5. 20 pts, 9 votes
Pendulum (1970)
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Didn't do an albums ballot, but had Pendulum on while I did my tracks ballot, and the bottom half became littered with its album cuts.

yeah Pendulum is deep cuts paradise, kind of gives a glimpse of what CCR could've been in the '70s if they stuck together and became more of an AOR band than a singles factory

I didn't do an albums ballot either, but 3 tracks from Pendulum were on my tracks ballot.

Damn, guys. This is why I like this place. Pendulum was the surprise for me.

tbf Pendulum at #5 means that it only placed above two of their albums, one of them being the dreaded Mardi Gras

True. I'd be curious to find out if Mardi Gras got any votes when there were only 5 slots on anyone's ballot.

Pendulum my number three pick!

I love Tom's creepy staredown on the cover.

4. 26 pts, 13 votes, 1 1st place vote
Bayou Country (1969)
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3. 49 pts, 15 votes, 1 1st place vote)
Willy and the Poor Boys (1969)
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2. 50 pts, 15 votes, 2 1st place votes
Green River (1969)
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1. 72 pts, 16 votes, 11 1st place votes
Cosmo's Factory (1970)
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Whoa at the blowout. Cosmo's Factory was almost my #1 as well, but went with Green River at the last second.

pourin' one out for the excellent debut

Wow yeah, I had the s/t as my #3, shame it didn't make it.

Happy with the top two though!

40. I Put A Spell On You – 58 points | 4 votes
https://youtu.be/VhFt-SVqVuI

Screamin' Jay version rules too, but this is the definitive imo.

39. Graveyard Train – 62 points | 3 votes
https://youtu.be/dwv6-TXizJQ

Monomaniacal + nightmarish that track.

Is there any other artist poll where 3 of the top 5 albums were released in the same year? I'm thinking probably not.

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i figure this photo of my kid this weekend should be in this thread...

hell yeah!

awesome

ominous blues tunes are ruling the bottom rungs of the top 40..

38. Tombstone Shadow – 74 points | 5 votes
https://youtu.be/rxglgqFJ6Lc

Is there any other artist poll where 3 of the top 5 albums were released in the same year? I'm thinking probably not.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, June 15, 2015 11:16 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

probably not in pop music, maybe jazz. or rap, if we're counting, say, Gucci Mane mixtapes.

Fairport Convention maybe?

good call

coulda sworn Liege & Lief was 1970 but Discogs sez '69

I had Pendulum at #2 and Green River at #1

Taking Sides: Creedence's '69 vs. Fairport's '69

37. Call It Pretending – 76 points | 5 votes
https://youtu.be/cjS3EnMLf60

Fantastic photo, Tyler.

Is there any other artist poll where 3 of the top 5 albums were released in the same year? I'm thinking probably not.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat),

Husker Du.

I think Call It Pretending is my favorite discovery from this poll. very Grass Roots-y

Husker Du.

New Day Rising, Flip Your Wig, ...?

oh, calendar year. I was being elastic and was gonna include Zen Arcade. Their productivity was remarkable too.

and the A-side:

36. Porterville – 88 points | 4 votes
https://youtu.be/ys2x4p2yp2o

Bringing It All Back Home/Highway 61/Blonde on Blonde are separated by 14 months--very close.

"Call It Pretending" sounds sort of Motownish to me once you take away the vocal.

oh, calendar year. I was being elastic and was gonna include Zen Arcade. Their productivity was remarkable too.

Who do you think you are, Tiger Woods?

http://i.imgur.com/AFhR5NP.jpg

am I black or white
am I straight or gay

did you win four consecutively or did you win four in the same year.

how can there be time for good conversation when you're pondering that kind of perpetual motion.

35. It's Just A Thought – 94 points | 5 votes
https://youtu.be/Bdai_1LlSA0

^^^ love the organ on this one

I voted for it.

Good poll, thanks!

Effigy
Ramble Tamble
I Heard It Through the Grapevine
Fortunate Son
Don't Look Now (It Ain't You Or Me)
Bad Moon Rising
It Came Out of the Sky
Sinister Purpose
Lodi
Proud Mary
Have You Ever Seen the Rain
Born on the Bayou
Bootleg
Pagan Baby
Up Around The Bend
Lookin' Out My Back Door
Down on the Corner
Fight Fire
Feelin' Blue
Commotion
Walking on the Water
Call It Pretending
Suzie Q
Wrote a Song for Everyone
Porterville

songs:

1. Ramble Tamble
2. Keep on Chooglin'
3. Born on the Bayou
4. Fortunate Son
5. Bad Moon Rising
6. Proud Mary
7. Up Around the Bend
8. Run Through the Jungle
9. Green River
10. Travelin' Band
11. Feelin' Blue
12. Long As I Can See the Light
13. Wrote a Song for Everyone
14. Cross-Tie Walker
15. Down on the Corner
16. The Night Time is the Right Time
17. It Came Out of the Sky
18. Lookin' Out My Back Door
19. Walking on the Water
20. Don't Look Now
21. The Midnight Special
22. Effigy
23. Who'll Stop the Rain
24. Have You Ever Seen The Rain?
25. Someday Never Comes

albums:

1. Cosmo's Factory
2. Willy and the Poor Boys
3. Green River
4. Bayou Country
5. Creedence Clearwater Revival

Tracks:
Long As I Can See the Light
Ramble Tamble
Lookin' Out My Back Door
Fortunate Son
Sinister Purpose
Up Around the Bend
Lodi
Who'll Stop the Rain
Wrote a Song for Everyone
I Heard it Through the Grapevine
Green River
It Came Out of the Sky
Don't Look Now
Born on the Bayou
Run Through the Jungle
Effigy
Bad Moon Rising
Feelin' Blue
Susie Q
Cotton Fields
Hey Tonight
Down on the Corner
The Midnight Special
Proud Mary
Have You Ever Seen The Rain?

Albums:
Cosmo's Factory
Willy and the Poor Boys
Green River
Bayou Country
Pendulum

Tracks:
01. Ramble Tamble
02. Wrote A Song For Everyone
03. Lodi
04. Sinister Purpose
05. Fortunate Son
06. Run Through The Jungle
07. Have You Ever Seen The Rain
08. Effigy
09. Born On The Bayou
10. Bad Moon Rising
11. Someday Never Comes
12. Proud Mary
13. I Heart It Through The Grapevine
14. Long As I Can See The Light
15. Pagan Baby
16. Keep On Chooglin'
17. Walk On The Water

Albums:
01. Cosmo's Factory
02. Green River
03. Chronicle, Vol.1

Cool poll, crüt, thanks for running it, and for multiple years of patience leading up to it.

Thanks for running the pool. It will live forever in the Cotton Fields of my heart.

Here's my ballot:
1
Don’t Look Now
Who’ll Stop The Rain
Up Around The Bend
Proud Mary
Fortunate Son
Long As I Can See The Light
Green River
Lodi
Ramble Tamble
Wrote A Song For Everyone
Hey Tonight
Effigy
Lookin’ Out My Back Door
Have You Ever Seen The Rain
Sweet Hitch-Hiker
Someday Never Comes
It Came Out Of The Sky
Born On The Bayou
It’s Just a Thought
Bad Moon Rising
Down On The Corner
Sinister Purpose
Cross Tie Walker
(Wish I Could) Hideaway
Run Through The Jungle
25

question since the youtube list is making me want to listen to things over and over and i can't sit here at the computer forever --
if i have to purchase one item that has
* the most good songs
* the long version of grapevine
* ramble tamble

which CCR product should i purchase? help please i don't want to figure this out if there is an easy answer!!

Well Grapevine + Ramble Tamble are on Cosmo's Factory but there's a lot of compilations too.

Cosmo's Factory! xp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmo%27s_Factory

Easiest route may be to just get Chronicle and go to youtube whenever you want to hear the long Grapevine.

ok that sounds good
i already have green river
thank you

i wonder how many people have named their practice spaces "cosmo's factory"

for example: no i need long grapevine in portable format so i can take it to cosmo's factory!

The CD version of Chronicle Vol. 1 has the full version of "Grapevine" but doesn't have "Ramble Tamble," which is on Vol. 2. Honestly getting both Vol. 1 & 2 is never a waste of anyone's money.

that's all I owned for years and felt reasonably satisfied. You basically own 85 percent of their catalog w/those two comps (no "Effigy" though).

CCR are like Al Green: a singles band that recorded great albums w/deep cuts yet you won't feel unsatisfied w/owning the GH.

that makes sense, good to know
i think the greatest hits would lead me to cosmo's factory eventually so i guess maybe i'll just start there since i def already know the hits (although the long version of grapevine was new to me!)

there's a funny bit in "Up Around the Bend" where Fogerty describes listening to their version of Grapevine on the radio and thinking to himself "wtf not ANOTHER chorus!?"

I didn't want to put too many covers on my ballot, but they did amazing covers. In addition to "Grapevine," I'd single out "Ninety-Nine and a Half (Won't Do)" on the debut and especially "Good Golly Miss Molly" on Bayou Country -- even more intense and energetic than Little Richard's version.

Songs:

1. Born On the Bayou
2. Up Around the Bend
3. Lodi
4. Ramble Tamble
5. Fortunate Son
6. Who'll Stop the Rain
7. Pagan Baby
8. Hey Tonight
9. Sinister Purpose
10. Run Through the Jungle
11. Molina
12. Penthouse Pauper
13. Wrote a Song for Everyone
14. Green River
15. Lookin' Out My Back Door
16. Almost Saturday Night (John Fogerty)
17. Someday Never Comes
18. It Came Out of the Sky
19. Have You Ever Seen the Rain?
20. Call It Pretending
21. Bad Moon Rising
22. Feelin' Blue
23. Commotion
24. Good Golly Miss Molly
25. Long As I Can See the Light

Albums:

1. Cosmo's Factory
2. Pendulum
3. Willie and the Poor Boys
4. Green River
5. Bayou Country

If I was to do it again, I'd find a way to include "Bootleg" and "Walk On the Water" and I'd move Green River up to #3 on the albums list

Loved the countdown, not knowing much Credence I devoured this up. Thanks all!

Great job. Sweet Hitch-hiker is too low but that top 4 can't be improved

Back in court.

http://news.yahoo.com/john-fogerty-sues-former-creedence-bandmates-over-band-235253659.html

I feel bad for these guys and, like, Van Halen and Kiss. you'd think SOMEDAY the acrimony would end but it's just gonna keep going until they're all dead.

that's a long song title

Easy for me to say, but--while I can certainly see going to court over song royalties; CCR is still all over at least a couple of radio formats--if this is just about the other two guys using the CCR name, I'd say let it go. I don't see Fogerty's (John's) legacy or whatever threatened by this at all. And that can't be that much money involved.

he's probably just so pissed that this is STILL happening

Now residing in a dusty bargain bin near you...

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I look at that and think, "Sue away."

In all honesty, after seeing recent-ish clips of Fogerty's band, where Kenny Aaronoff plays like he took "ham-fisted" as a compliment, I'd much rather go to a Revisited show.

always thought that Elliott Easton must be really hard up that he's stuck with Cook and Clifford for so many years…or maybe he relates to guys who labored semi-anonymously under an autocrat…

i heard a (recent?) Fogerty live recording on the radio a while back and his voice sounded absolutely shot, almost transformed, it took me a couple minutes to realize it was actually JF and not someone else butchering his songs. so i probably wouldn't go to see him live, but i wouldn't go to a Revisited show either, for different reasons.

Wonder if there's any CCRevisited tribute bands out there. Bet they put on a show.

Last time I saw Fogerty--only time in years--was on Letterman a year or two ago, when his Creedence redo album was out, doing "Someday Never Comes" with a band I didn't recognize. I thought they sounded great, although a ravaged voice, for that particular song, might have been part of what appealed to me.

always thought that Elliott Easton must be really hard up that he's stuck with Cook and Clifford for so many years…

I can't imagine how horrible it must be to play with such a unique and swinging rhythm section night after night.

As unquestionably brilliant as Fogerty was, he wasn't/isn't Creedence (and he seems to think he is). Listening to Kenny Aaronoff's caps-lock butchering of "Ramble Tamble" made me realize that the CCR version is nearly as much Clifford's song as it is Fogerty's.

Hour-long interview with John Fogerty about his autobiography

These fuckin people.

possibly the best american rock group

(xp) Sweet.

Glad someone else likes Rude Awakening #2!

it's a jam

"Effigy" so fucking rules.

23. Keep On Chooglin'

Should have your CCR cards revoked.

My top 10 in no particular order:

Sinister Purpose
Fortunate Son
Effigy
Ramble Tamble
Keep on Chooglin'
Lodi
Born on the Bayou
Long as I Can See the Light
Wrote a Song for Everyone
Someday Never Comes

Then Green River isn't on there which is dumb.

I find it virtually impossible to argue with any of the individual polls here.

Then Green River isn't on there which is dumb.

Isn't it #7?

My top 10 (not in order):

Born on the Bayou
Proud Mary
Keep On Chooglin'
Green River
Wrote a Song for Everyone
Bad Moon Rising
Lodi
Fortunate Son
Effigy
Have You Ever Seen the Rain

23. Keep On Chooglin'

Should have your CCR cards revoked.

That lady from the RAH show must have abstained from voting.

Then Green River isn't on there which is dumb.

Isn't it #7?

I meant it wasn't on my top 10 but should be (along with probably 5 other songs). They were too good.

"Chooglin'" was my #2. If the RAH set had been out when this poll happened, that version of "Chooglin'" would've been my #1.

If I had voted, I might have had "Chameleon" somewhere at the bottom of the ballot, even if it's not typical of their work. Without Fogerty's vocal, you might mistake it for any act in 1970 trying to get on AM radio, but it's very spirited and catchy.

(xp) #7 in mine. Don't hate me, people.

I'm thinking that Pendulum, their supposed attempt to sell themselves as a "serious album band" by late 1970 standards, goes to extremes with their most "bubblegum" material and also their most avant-garde/progressive (or whatever "Rude Awakening #2" is supposed to be). Was this a White Album-style "we can be eclectic too" statement?