It is now again illegal to copy CD's for personal use in the UK

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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/17/high-court-quashes-regulations-copy-cds-musicians

The high court has quashed regulations introduced by the government to allow members of the public to lawfully copy CDs and other copyright material bought for their own private use.

The move follows a judge’s recent ruling that the government went wrong in law when it decided not to introduce a compensation scheme for songwriters, musicians and other rights holders who faced losses as a result of their copyright being infringed.

The decision was won by the Musicians’ Union, UK Music and the British Academy of Songwriters, Composers and Authors, with a legal team led by two QCs, Ian Mill and Tom de la Mare.

UK Music estimated the new regulations, without a compensation scheme, would result in loss of revenues for rights owners in the creative sector of £58m a year.

The Department for Business, Innovation and Skills said when introducing the new regulations that they would cause only zero or insignificant harm, thus making compensation unnecessary. But Mr Justice Green, sitting in London, ruled last month that the evidence relied on by the government simply did not justify the claim that the harm would be “de minimis”.

On Friday, in a further decision, he said: “It is clear that I should quash the regulations. I make clear this covers the entirety of the regulations and all the rights and obligations contained therein.”

The changes had come into force last October under the Copyright and Rights in Performances (Personal Copies for Private Use) Regulations 2014.

Prior to 1 October, it was unlawful, for example, to rip or copy the contents of a CD onto a laptop, smartphone or MP3 player for personal use, although the format-shifting activity had become commonplace.

The regulations introduced an exception into UK copyright law permitting the making of personal copies, as long as they were only for private use.

Jo Dipple, CEO of UK Music, said: “Last month, the high court agreed with us that the government acted unlawfully when it introduced an exception to copyright for private copying without fair compensation. We therefore welcome the court’s decision today to quash the existing regulations.

“It is vitally important that fairness for songwriters, composers and performers is written into the law. My members’ music defines this country”

The judge stressed that the case had raised a range of legal issues of wide significance for UK and EU law, most of which he had decided in the government’s favour.

During a three-day hearing in April, Mill told the judge the law on private copying had been in an unsatisfactory state for decades. But the problem had been “massively exacerbated” by new digital technology and the internet, and the quality and speed of reproduction and copying they allowed.

Mill said the music industry welcomed the government’s new measures “but objects to the lack of a fair compensation scheme to compensate rights owners for the harm caused – both historically and in the future – by private copying infringements of their rights”.

The UK government, unlike the majority of other European countries, had failed to provide appropriate compensation, he said.

Pushpinder Saini, representing the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills, contended that no credible evidence emerged during a lengthy consultation process that prejudice to rights holders “would be anything other than minimal”.

The measures adopted by the UK authorities were far more limited in scope than those adopted in other EU member states, submitted Saini.

Under the new regulations, only the individual who purchased the original copy of the work, and not others such as a friend or family, is legally allowed to copy it.

Saini argued that the music industry case “boils down to an opportunistic attempt to obtain a financial benefit which, if the exception had never been introduced, they would never have received”.

But the judge rejected the government’s stance, saying it was “simply not justified” by the particular evidence it was relying on with regard to the compensation issue.

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 17 July 2015 18:29 (nine years ago)

Oh no, sales of blank CDs are gonna plummet!

meaty, desperate, and honest about the world we live in (ultros ultros-ghali), Friday, 17 July 2015 18:34 (nine years ago)

Anyone who has ripped a CD for their phone, laptop etc is now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU

Mark e you need to dump your archive quick!

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 17 July 2015 18:57 (nine years ago)

Idea for thread: Last 5 albums you burned onto a blank CD

tayto fan (Michael B), Friday, 17 July 2015 19:01 (nine years ago)

its not just about cdrs. if you have ripped a cd into mp3 or anything its illegal.

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 17 July 2015 19:02 (nine years ago)

Good luck in prison, entire population of the UK.

Something Called Fudge (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 July 2015 19:04 (nine years ago)

this is the least important thing ever

Rave Van Donk (jim in glasgow), Friday, 17 July 2015 19:05 (nine years ago)

it was illegal up until last year, and now its illegal to copy or rip a CD again. Utterly ridiculous it took so long in the first place for it to be legal. The law is an ass, indeed.

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 17 July 2015 19:06 (nine years ago)

how is this going to be enforced? ridiculous

tayto fan (Michael B), Friday, 17 July 2015 19:19 (nine years ago)

it cant. that is another reason that makes it all so stupid

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 17 July 2015 19:19 (nine years ago)

basically the industry wants you to buy the digital files. if you rip a CD instead they think that is losing them money so they want compensation.

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 17 July 2015 19:20 (nine years ago)

i hear the queen herself has binders and binders full of CDRs

tylerw, Friday, 17 July 2015 19:22 (nine years ago)

while the young princes prefer 320 kbps bitrate mp3s

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 17 July 2015 19:23 (nine years ago)

the duke of edinburgh probably thinks musicians are sponging off someone

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 17 July 2015 19:23 (nine years ago)

Idea for thread: Last 5 albums you burned onto a blank CD

― tayto fan (Michael B), Friday, 17 July 2015 19:01 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Like.

Mark G, Friday, 17 July 2015 20:28 (nine years ago)

Is it going to mean that the database that EAC links to for cd info disappears? So you have to do everything manualy? & EAC is disabled?

Stevolende, Friday, 17 July 2015 23:31 (nine years ago)

I doubt anything is going to change, they simply want compensation of about £58m. Where it will come from, who knows.

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 17 July 2015 23:42 (nine years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/18/large-scale-online-pirates-face-10-years-jail-copyright-infringement

Large-scale online pirates to face up to 10 years’ jail under ministers’ proposals

Consultation calls for maximum sentence to be vastly increased so penalties for online offences tally with those for copyright infringement of physical goods

Commercial infringement of copyright online should in future be punishable by up to 10 years in prison, ministers are proposing.

A consultation launched by the Intellectual Property Office and the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills is calling for the present maximum sentence of two years to be significantly increased.

The aim is to bring penalties for online offences into line with equivalent large-scale crimes involving copyright infringement of physical goods.

Before the consultation’s launch on Saturday, the intellectual property minister, Baroness Neville-Rolfe, said: “The government takes copyright crime extremely seriously – it hurts businesses, consumers and the wider economy both on and offline. Our creative industries are worth more than £7bn to the UK economy and it’s important to protect them from online criminal enterprises.”

She added: “By toughening penalties for commercial-scale online offending we are offering greater protections to businesses and sending a clear message to deter criminals.”

The head of the police intellectual property crime unit, DCI Peter Ratcliffe, said: “Online or offline, intellectual property theft is a crime. With advances in technology and the popularity of the internet, more and more criminals are turning to online criminality and so it is imperative that our prosecution system reflects our moves to a more digital world.”

The UK’s creative industries, including film, television and music, support more than 1.6m jobs. The proposals aim to offer the creative industries further protection from large-scale online copyright offenders and provide a significant deterrent.

Eddy Leviten, the director general of the Alliance for Intellectual Property, said: “This consultation is very welcome as we feel there is a clear anomaly in the way that online copyright infringement by criminal enterprises is treated by the justice system.”

Online copyright infringement is dealt with under the Copyright Designs and Patents Act 1988 and is punishable by a maximum of two years.

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 17 July 2015 23:55 (nine years ago)

> Oh no, sales of blank CDs are gonna plummet!

But CD walkman sales are set to skyrocket

koogs, Saturday, 18 July 2015 03:11 (nine years ago)

basically the industry wants you to buy the digital files. if you rip a CD instead they think that is losing them money so they want compensation.

― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, July 17, 2015 7:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So if you want to listen to the album while you're "on the move", and don't have a Discman because times have changed, man, then you have to buy the fucking album twice!?

You heard it here, folks, home ripping is killing music.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Saturday, 18 July 2015 21:42 (nine years ago)

how is this still an issue in the age of streaming?

Treeship, Saturday, 18 July 2015 21:48 (nine years ago)

yep, unless the industry gets compensated (what are the chances of the musicians receiving any of it?)

treeship -not everyone streams. Esp if they have no wifi access or like higher quality than streams

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Saturday, 18 July 2015 21:52 (nine years ago)

i know, but the industry is going that direction. if you don't have to pay to hear new music it seems weird to keep downloading new music onto your hard drive a criminal offense -- or at least weird to keep threatening to enforce it

Treeship, Saturday, 18 July 2015 21:55 (nine years ago)

this is the least important thing ever

― Rave Van Donk (jim in glasgow), Friday, July 17, 2015 2:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 18 July 2015 21:57 (nine years ago)

how is this still an issue in the age of streaming?

What percentage of my CDs do you estimate are available on streaming services?

let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Saturday, 18 July 2015 23:18 (nine years ago)

what percentage of those CDs do you imagine are making steady profits for the record companies that pushed for this legislation?

Treeship, Saturday, 18 July 2015 23:21 (nine years ago)

i just don't think burning CDs is causing major profit losses so this law doesn't address anything

Treeship, Saturday, 18 July 2015 23:22 (nine years ago)

like, it does suck that ordinary musicians can't make a living from recorded music anymore and the streaming services are basically exploitative. but i don't think the efforts to crack down on flittering have by and large been about them. maybe in the uk it was

Treeship, Saturday, 18 July 2015 23:30 (nine years ago)

*filesharing (sry autocorrect)

Treeship, Saturday, 18 July 2015 23:32 (nine years ago)

if you don't have to pay to hear new music it seems weird to keep downloading new music onto your hard drive a criminal offense

This isn't even part of this case. You don't seem to have a coherent point that yr railing against.

let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Sunday, 19 July 2015 00:09 (nine years ago)

But the third last paragraph of the article says it is legal as long as you don't do it for anyone else.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 10:17 (nine years ago)

that was the year old law that just got revoked?

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 11:05 (nine years ago)

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/it-is-illegal-to-rip-music-off-a-cd-or-put-dvds-onto-hard-drives-uk-high-court-says-10402163.html

(oddly a search for 'uk cd copyright' returns a page of 2014 articles about the exemption before returning one match for the revocation of that exemption)

koogs, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 11:15 (nine years ago)


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