http://imgur.com/BkOfbs9
LJ must be editor if Mansun are in a mag in 2015
http://vivelerock.net/item/louder-than-war-issue-1/
Louder Than War is the brand new indie music magazine brought to you by the hugely successful website Louderthanwar.com and Big Cheese Publishing Ltd, publisher of Big Cheese and Vive Le Rock magazines.Aiming to cover the glory years of classic indie, alternative and post-punk music, Louder Than War is launched in September and will initially be a quarterly 116 glossy A4 magazine covering everything from Oasis to Blur, The White Stripes and Joy Division, Swans and Sonic Youth to PJ Harvey and Nirvana.IN THE FIRST ISSUE:THE STONE ROSES / MORRISSEY / NEW PSYCH / MANSUN / HAPPY MONDAYS / SLEAFORD MODS / SWANS / MAXIMO PARK / SLAVES / PUBLIC SERVICE BROADCASTING / THE CHARLATANS / ASH / ZOMBI / BIRDLAND / HOOTON TENNIS CLUB / HONEYBLOOD / GRAVE PLEASURES / KAGOULE / SUB POP / DEAFHEAVEN& more!
Aiming to cover the glory years of classic indie, alternative and post-punk music, Louder Than War is launched in September and will initially be a quarterly 116 glossy A4 magazine covering everything from Oasis to Blur, The White Stripes and Joy Division, Swans and Sonic Youth to PJ Harvey and Nirvana.
IN THE FIRST ISSUE:THE STONE ROSES / MORRISSEY / NEW PSYCH / MANSUN / HAPPY MONDAYS / SLEAFORD MODS / SWANS / MAXIMO PARK / SLAVES / PUBLIC SERVICE BROADCASTING / THE CHARLATANS / ASH / ZOMBI / BIRDLAND / HOOTON TENNIS CLUB / HONEYBLOOD / GRAVE PLEASURES / KAGOULE / SUB POP / DEAFHEAVEN& more!
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:50 (nine years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/BkOfbs9.jpg
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:51 (nine years ago)
fucksake
― twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:54 (nine years ago)
this belongs on that swagger of oasis thread
― twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:55 (nine years ago)
& yeah Mansun were great but Stone Roses worship = die, forever
Blimey.
― Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:57 (nine years ago)
oh god
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:59 (nine years ago)
Birdland??? wtf!
― xelab, Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:00 (nine years ago)
War is obviously a quite quiet thing, thesedays.
― Mark G, Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:06 (nine years ago)
still cant believe Mansun are in a magazine in 2015 lol
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:10 (nine years ago)
while you're trying to wind me up, you must also recognise that there are about 15 things about that cover more embarrassing than Mansun
we're on a slow train to no way sna btw folks, enjoy the ride
― twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:12 (nine years ago)
I do like the fact that the top banner line clearly establishes that neither indie, alternative, nor post-punk are in any way weird.
The cover is pretty hideous, though. I mean, blue and gray doesn't exactly scream "BUY ME NOW!" even in England, does it?
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:16 (nine years ago)
fits in with the general design of LTW to be honest.
― mark e, Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:17 (nine years ago)
The Quietus has really let itself go.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:36 (nine years ago)
ZOMBI / BIRDLAND
sounds like an iggy tribute act
― Ray Chard (NickB), Thursday, 24 September 2015 14:09 (nine years ago)
is this basically John Robb: The Magazine?
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 24 September 2015 14:19 (nine years ago)
is this basically John Robb: The Magazine?― glumdalclitch, Thursday, September 24, 2015 2:19 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, September 24, 2015 2:19 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This was my first thought.
― Turrican, Thursday, 24 September 2015 14:38 (nine years ago)
covering everything from Oasis to Blur
― let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Thursday, 24 September 2015 16:06 (nine years ago)
The band's second album, Not Real, was released on 13 April 2015[5] to "generally favourable" reviews.[6]
6. ^ Metacritic, http://www.metacritic.com/music/not-real/stealing-sheep
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 September 2015 16:40 (nine years ago)
― Matt DC, Thursday, 24 September 2015 14:36 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol
― westminster cerdo ring (wins), Thursday, 24 September 2015 16:42 (nine years ago)
how many copies of that first issue would they expect to sell
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 September 2015 16:44 (nine years ago)
presumably an arse-covering amount if there's an actual Stone Roses interview in there (the cover not specifying one suggests there isn't). other than that I genuinely can't figure out who this is supposed to be aimed at
― Hector Ringtone (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:30 (nine years ago)
ex-artrocker readers.
― mark e, Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:32 (nine years ago)
People who bought the nme once in a while? Seems significant that they launched this at the same time the nme retreated to a dusty corner of your nearest Topman
― Ray Chard (NickB), Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:35 (nine years ago)
I genuinely can't figure out who this is supposed to be aimed at
There's a whole thread on here stuffed to the gunwales with the bastards.
― Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:44 (nine years ago)
I knew Tom D would buy it
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:51 (nine years ago)
maybe a couple of thousand?
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:25 (nine years ago)
can u get it over here
― deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:27 (nine years ago)
theres probably an ocd population who compulsively buy new magazines like those 'collectible miniature busts of victorian generals, issue 1 with free custer' type of things advertised on daytime tv
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:27 (nine years ago)
I cant imagine deems buying those
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:46 (nine years ago)
From Ash to Zombi, thats the whole gamut to some folk that post on here.
― xelab, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:41 (nine years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/EKKBliz.jpg
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:12 (nine years ago)
from the new psych article
out of any playlist i've ever seen, that one veers most wildly from incredible to shit
― twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:14 (nine years ago)
two of the better songs from the last 10-15 years followed respectively by hookworms & a noel gallagher remix
― twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:16 (nine years ago)
Are you a psychedelic music fan imago?
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:17 (nine years ago)
i am 2/19 a psychedelic music fan
― twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:18 (nine years ago)
u love 'ing birds tho
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:24 (nine years ago)
Gallagher & Dawson, it could work.
― Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:28 (nine years ago)
This looks like the magazine equivalent of a million interminable ILM threads about shite indie, so I'm guessing someone must figure this stuff is worth writing about.
― ailsa, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:55 (nine years ago)
otm^^^
― xelab, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:00 (nine years ago)
Also music mags referencing bands from 20-odd years ago isn't really a thing. The only weird thing about this is that people still buy print magazines, but I guess that's why it has to reference stuff relevant to and from the era when people still bought print magazines.
― ailsa, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:29 (nine years ago)
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ba/ba12aca49495e6114b4b231c241e443e585c305886b1522c536e50f22d7116cd.jpg
― OshoKosho B'Gosho (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:30 (nine years ago)
Stealing Sheep leading the charge of the new psych brigade!
who is Stealing Sheep?
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:32 (nine years ago)
Aberdonians
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:39 (nine years ago)
theyre from liverpool i think so I guess they read their big brothers shroomadelica issue of nme
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:41 (nine years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q0UCBNYsms
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:42 (nine years ago)
ok doesnt sound like i expected. its not all dudes for a start
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:44 (nine years ago)
that's not bad actuallydoesn't really seem psych but i dunno
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:50 (nine years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jtlWLXy9r0
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:51 (nine years ago)
OK, you made that up!
― Mark G, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:15 (nine years ago)
argh
come back Plan B, they gave me a nice DAF CD and some coldwave comp or other for subscribing iirc
(yes, please be made up. top notch photoshop skillz if so)
― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:18 (nine years ago)
I have no such skills
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:19 (nine years ago)
CTCL , LLSS and Plan B were great mags
o did Sealings move to Brighton
all good Oxford bands (and some of the bad ones) move to Brighton
(perhaps it is a different Sealings)
― a passing spacecadet, Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:05 AM (12 minutes ago)
I think they might have been at uni at Oxford, actually, so quite possibly the same ones? (They are m8s, innit.)
This looks fucking shit. Though my interaction with LTW online has always been "oh, a link to that place, it's supposed to be alright iirc... oh no, wait, it's a pile of bollocks".
― emil.y, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:23 (nine years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/8Yum5qK.jpg
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:24 (nine years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/u1Yv2op.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/9Xds93D.jpg
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:26 (nine years ago)
Are we actually supposed to read those or.....
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:40 (nine years ago)
just letting people know the contents. Sorry if the pics arent great
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:41 (nine years ago)
Please don't say "if you don't like a thread, don't read it"
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:44 (nine years ago)
Help me out here, are we supposed to point and laugh?
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:46 (nine years ago)
wait you bought this? what is happening, i thought we were making fun of britrock bands
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:50 (nine years ago)
i kinda like it for that alternative universe vibe. like looking at christian rock magazines. a world where people still listen to old mansun cds...it might as well be sci-fi to me. but it's just a culture thing. korean music magazines would be just as foreign to me. maximo park! i mean what on earth could they sound like? feels like i've seen that name forever.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:57 (nine years ago)
xp
yeah I bought it as I wanted something to read while waiting for my opticians appointment
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:59 (nine years ago)
unbelievable how long stone roses can run on two albums. isn't it? are they rich from those records? talked about endlessly since 1994! that is truly impressive. how many words in the u.k. print world have been written about those dudes? millions maybe.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:00 (nine years ago)
haha sex pistols did one
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:01 (nine years ago)
is it strictly a British thing?
do young british people listen to the stone roses or is just old geezers who look like the sleaford mods who still listen to them?
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:11 (nine years ago)
i dunno, i would have to think really hard to come up with a band who released so little music who have gotten as much ink in the u.s. as the roses have. there aren't really any music mags here though. it's not like you read about big star everywhere here. bad example anyway. the stone roses are ALWAYS in british music mags.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:13 (nine years ago)
i guess The La's beat even the roses though. i'm sure mojo still writes about them.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:15 (nine years ago)
I have seen two girls about 12 who live near me wearing Stone Roses and Nirvana tshirts. That's the kind of level they are. Sure i bet they are seen as the "weird kids" in school but those into music always were.
Stone Roses were very important to a section of people my * age (not just guys I may say)
*inc me
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:18 (nine years ago)
Scott are there a lot of niche magazines in the US or are they just general music types? Anything that covers 'indie'?
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:35 (nine years ago)
uhhhhhh, is Magnet still a magazine? or Alternative Press? they are the only indie ones i can think of and they might be out of business by now. there are a lot less places to BUY magazines in the U.S. now. you can still always find Mojo and Uncut and the Wire though. i buy Ugly Things when it comes out. that's about the only U.S. music zine i buy.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:05 (nine years ago)
and i still get Decibel in the mail free every month. because they like me.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:06 (nine years ago)
Decibel is really the only kinda-big U.S. music magazine that is any good. in my opinion.
there is wax poetics. but i consider that more of a niche/zine thing like an ugly things. smaller in scale than decibel. and i rarely see it anywhere anymore.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:09 (nine years ago)
I wonder why metal print mags survive and indie ones cant? (Metal was never mainstream here) Especially here in the UK where niche of a niche metal mags can survive
Kerrang (Ok not metal now but the only rock mag that has more than 50% female readership)TerrorizerZero ToleranceIron FistRockarollaBig Cheese
I have a digital sub to Decibel as I cant get the mag here and the print mag is too expensive to import
While they do overlap sometimes they also cover a lot of stuff the others dont.and probably others i forgot/dont know about.
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:13 (nine years ago)
metal fans are to the death. they will buy anything metal.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:21 (nine years ago)
Alternative Press is definitely still around, and thriving. They just had a 30th anniversary exhibit at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, actually. I'm really impressed by what they do, even though I don't write for them anymore (I stopped last year). They know exactly who their audience is - basically teenagers through people in their early 20s - and they cater to them incredibly well. Whether or not you like what they cover is one thing, but you would almost never look at an issue of AP and think, "Why is that band in here?"
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:22 (nine years ago)
U.K. mags in general just vastly superior to anything here. but there isn't much left here. but even the U.K. mags with Joe Bonnamassa on the cover are LEAGUES better in every way. design, layout, writing, art, photos, everything.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:24 (nine years ago)
AP has always been good at what they do. and years ago they covered metal that no other non-metal mag would. i just haven't seen a copy in years.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:25 (nine years ago)
I don't think I'd ever see it if I didn't have a subscription. Same reason I still see Down Beat (which is horrible, btw - hideous covers, awful layouts, and astonishingly bad writing); I vote in their annual critics' poll, and every year everybody who votes in the poll gets a year's subscription as a thank-you.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:27 (nine years ago)
I definitely think that 'niche' mags are the only ones that can survive. Hopefully not just niche mags that only cover older music though.
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:34 (nine years ago)
It's a shame that you cant have a music mag that covers everything but nobody seems willing to pay for it.
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:36 (nine years ago)
Because nobody likes "everything." A magazine like that would have max 2 articles per issue that any given potential consumer might like. That's a recipe for abject failure. The only way to sell a magazine is to make sure that a potential buyer a) knows more or less what they're gonna get (which keeps them coming back) or b) can look at the cover and say "OK, I'd like to read about them...and them...and him...and him...and her...and that...all right, that's worth five bucks."
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:49 (nine years ago)
the magical belief in the rejuvenating qualities of 'new music' as subscribed to by aging tastemakers is not wrong because it is irrational but because the attempt to assert vitality through consumption is grotesque― nakhchivan, Friday, September 25, 2015 9:24 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkgod thank you!― mattresslessness, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:38 (Yesterday) Permalink
― nakhchivan, Friday, September 25, 2015 9:24 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
god thank you!
― mattresslessness, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:38 (Yesterday) Permalink
― everything, Saturday, 26 September 2015 05:58 (nine years ago)
I've not seen anything about or referencing The La's for a long tiime.
― Mark G, Saturday, 26 September 2015 08:32 (nine years ago)
lol uk landfill posters just cant keep off my dick on threads like this
― noɪˈɣiːələx (nakhchivan), Saturday, 26 September 2015 10:19 (nine years ago)
louder than war tho with significantly less tendency for millions of innocent young men to be mowed down like blades of grass
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Saturday, 26 September 2015 10:26 (nine years ago)
safer than war
louder than War (band)
― fappy board (wins), Saturday, 26 September 2015 10:29 (nine years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siNoYypkGlQ
amazing band
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Saturday, 26 September 2015 10:33 (nine years ago)
if that's the band 'War' there then yes.
― Mark G, Saturday, 26 September 2015 11:19 (nine years ago)
there's fans of landfill indie on ilx?
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 14:24 (nine years ago)
several posters seem peculiarly obsessed with it
― nameReinhard Gruhl/name (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 September 2015 15:01 (nine years ago)
Would hope that doesn't mean they like it!
dont think mansun,stone roses etc quite count as landfill indie however
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 15:08 (nine years ago)
there's a band called KAGOULE?
― kinder, Saturday, 26 September 2015 21:26 (nine years ago)
from nottingham apparently
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 21:47 (nine years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvOmgnfJsa8
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 21:49 (nine years ago)
the reviews section is a decent size
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 14:12 (nine years ago)
...there are a lot less places to BUY magazines in the U.S. now. you can still always find Mojo and Uncut and the Wire though...
― scott seward, Friday, September 25, 2015 9:05 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yea that's true, basically bookstores and record shops both of which are sometimes hard to find
also i am not seeing the wire mag anywhere lately, even at bookstores with larger-than-usual magazine selections
― marcos, Monday, 28 September 2015 14:26 (nine years ago)