Monday arguments over dull lists and why ilxors hate them - Uncut Magazine Top 200 Albums of all time

Uncut Top 200 Albums of all time
1. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds - 1966
2. The Beatles - Revolver - 1966
3. Van Morrison - Astral Weeks - 1968
4. The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico - 1967
5. The Beatles - The Beatles (White Album) - 1968
6. Love - Forever Changes - 1967
7. Bob Dylan - Blond On Blond - 1966
8. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead - 1986
9. Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited - 1965
10. Television - Marquee Moon - 1977
11. David Bowie - Hunky Dory - 1971
12. David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust - 1972
13. Marvin Gaye - What's Going On - 1971
14. Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue - 1959
15. The Beatles - Rubber Soul - 1965
16. The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main Street - 1972
17. The Band - The Band - 1969
18. Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks - 1975
19. David Bowie - Low - 1977
20. Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express - 1977
21. The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band - 1967
22. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back - 1988
23. The Clash - London Calling - 1979
24. The Beatles - Abbey Road - 1969
25. Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love - 1985
26. The Clash - The Clash - 1977
27. The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers - 1971
28. The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed - 1969
29. Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced - 1967
30. David Bowie - Stationtostation - 1976
31. Lou Reed - Transformer - 1972
32. Neil Young - After The Goldrush - 1970
33. Joni Mitchell - Blue - 1971
34. Neil Young - On The Beach - 1974
35. John Coltrane - A Love Supreme - 1965
36. Joy Division - Closer - 1980
37. The Kinks - The Kinks Are The Village Green Society - 1968
38. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless - 1991
39. Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home - 1965
40. Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom - 1974
41. Otis Redding - Otis Blue - 1965
42. Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland - 1968
43. The Stooges - Fun House - 1970
44. Sly And The Family Stone - There's A Riot Going On - 1971
45. R.E.M. - Murmer - 1983
46. Michael Jackson - Off The Wall - 1979
47. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin (Iv) - 1971
48. Fairport Convention - Liege & Lief - 1969
49. Stevie Wonder - Songs In The Key Of Life - 1976
50. Nick Drake - Bryter Later - 1971
51. Carole King - Tapestry - 1971
52. The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground - 1969
53. Big Star - Third/Sister Lovers - 1978
54. The Velvet Underground - Loaded - 1970
55. Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks… - 1977
56. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses - 1989
57. Pink Floyd - Piper At The Gates Of Dawn - 1967
58. Blondie - Parallel Lines - 1978
59. Prince - Sign O The Times - 1987
60. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures - 1979
61. Primal Scream - Screamadalica - 1991
62. The Byrds - The Notorious Byrd Brothers - 1968
63. Fleetwood Mac - Rumours - 1977
64. David Crosby - If Only I Could Remember My Name - 1971
65. Orange Juice - You Can’t Hide Your Love Forever - 1982
66. The Band - Music From Big Pink - 1968
67. Stevie Wonder - Innervisions - 1973
68. James Brown - Live At The Apollo - 1963
69. New Order - Technique - 1989
70. Patti Smith - Horses - 1975
71. Joni Mitchell - Hejira - 1976
72. LCD Sound System - Sound Of Silver - 2007
73. The Cure - Disintergration - 1989
74. Public Image Limited - Metal Box - 1979
75. Can - Ege Bamyasi - 1972
76. John Martyn - Solid Air - 1973
77. Steely Dan - Countdown To Ecstasy - 1973
78. The Byrds - Younger Than Yesterday - 1967
79. Gillian Welch - Time (The Revelator) - 2001
80. The Velvet Underground - White Light/White Heat - 1968
81. Radiohead - In Rainbows - 2007
82. The Who - Who's Next - 1971
83. Bob Dylan - The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan - 1963
84. Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon - 1973
85. Jimi Hendrix - Axix: Bold As Love - 1967
86. Todd Rundgren - A Wizard, A True Star - 1973
87. Joni Mitchell - The Hissing Of Summer Lawns - 1975
88. Can - Tago Mago - 1971
89. Big Star - No1 Record - 1972
90. The Cure - Head On The Door - 1985
91. Neil Young - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere - 1969
92. Dusty Springfield - Dusty In Memphis - 1969
93. Radiohead - Ok Computer - 1997
94. U2 - Achtung Baby - 1991
95. The Flying Burrito Brothers - The Guided Palace Of Sin - 1969
96. Bruce Springsteen - Born To Run - 1975
97. The Cure - Pornography - 1982
98. The Incredible String Band - The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter - 1968
99. John Cale - Paris 1919 - 1973
100. Laura Nyro - Eli & The Thirteenth Confession - 1968
101. Radiohead - Kid A - 2000
102. Serge Gainsbourg - Histoire De Melody Nelson - 1971
103. Pulp - This Is Hardcore - 1998
104. Johnny Cash - At Falsom Prison - 1968
105. David Bowie - Diamond Dogs - 1974
106. Talking Heads - Remain In Light - 1980
107. Spiritualized - Ladies & Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space - 1997
108. Talk Talk - Sprit Of Eden - 1988
109. The Only Ones - The Only Ones - 1978
110. The Congos - Heart Of The Congo’s - 1977
111. Joni Mitchell - Court & Spark - 1974
112. New Order - Power Corruption & Lies - 1983
113. The Slits - Cut - 1979
114. David Bowie - "Heroes" - 1977
115. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs - 1985
116. The Rolling Stones - Beggars Banquet - 1968
117. The Specials - The Specials - 1979
118. Suicide - Suicide - 1977
119. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew - 1970
120. Big Star - Radio City - 1974
121. Can - Future Days - 1973
122. Prince - Parade - 1986
123. Steely Dan - Can't Buy A Thrill - 1972
124. Nirvana - In Utero - 1993
125. Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True - 1977
126. Nick Drake - Pink Moon - 1972
127. Chic - C'est Chic - 1978
128. The Byrds - Sweetheart Of The Rodeo - 1968
129. Curtis Mayfield - Curtis - 1970
130. Syd Barrett - The Madcap Laughs - 1970
131. The Isley Brothers - 3+3 - 1973
132. The Human League - Dare! - 1981
133. The Who - Live At Leeds - 1970
134. Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On The Edge Of Town - 1978
135. The Beach Boys - Surfs Up - 1971
136. Ramones - Ramones - 1976
137. Ac/Dc - Back In Black - 1980
138. Van Morrison - Moondance - 1970
139. Gang Of Four - Entertainment! - 1979
140. The Beastie Boys - Check Your Head - 1992
141. Portishead - Dummy - 1994
142. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation - 1988
143. Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band - Safe As Milk - 1967
144. Cocteau Twins - Heaven Or Las Vegas - 1990
145. Blur - Modern Life Is Rubbish - 1993
146. Pixies - Doolittle - 1989
147. Jeff Buckley - Grace - 1994
148. Miles Davis - In A Silent Way - 1969
149. The Beatles - A Hard Day’s Night - 1964
150. Massive Attack - Blue Lines - 1991
151. Daft Punk - Discovery - 2001
152. Aretha Franklin - Lady Soul - 1968
153. Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti - 1975
154. The Associates - Sulk - 1982
155. Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Boatman’s Call - 1997
156. Tricky - Maxinquaye - 1995
157. Bjork - Debut - 1993
158. The Fall - The Nation's Saving Grace - 1984
159. Leonard Cohen - Songs Of Love And Hate - 1971
160. The Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers - 1993
161. Tom Waits - Swardfishtrumbone - 1983
162. PJ Harvey - Rid Of Me - 1993
163. Neil Young - Tonight's The Night - 1975
164. The Cure - Seventeen Seconds - 1980
165. Brian Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets - 1974
166. GZA - Liquid Swords - 1995
167. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92 - 1992
168. The Smiths - Strangeways Here We Come - 1987
169. T.Rex - Electric Warrior - 1971
170. Laura Nyro - New York Tendaberry - 1969
171. Prince - Purple Rain - 1984
172. Oasis - (What's The Story) Morning Glory? - 1995
173. John Lennon - John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band - 1970
174. Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure - 1973
175. My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything - 1988
176. Neil Young - Harvest - 1972
177. Super Furry Animals - Radiator - 1997
178. Black Sabbath - Paranoid - 1970
179. The Who - Tommy - 1969
180. Michael Jackson - Thriller - 1982
181. The Replacements - Tim - 1985
182. Amy Winehouse - Back To Black - 2006
183. Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left - 1969
184. Kraftwerk - The Man-Machine - 1978
185. David Bowie - The Man Who Saved The World - 1970
186. Charles Mingus - The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady - 1963
187. Donald Fagen - The Nightfly - 1982
188. Talking Heads - Fear Of Music - 1979
189. The Smiths - The Smiths - 1984
190. Prefab Sprout - Steve McQueen - 1985
191. The Who - The Who Sell Out - 1967
192. Gene Clarke - No Other - 1974
193. Johnny Cash - American Iv: The Man Comes Around - 2002
194. Joanna Newsom - Ys - 2006
195. T.Rex - The Slider - 1972
196. The Fall - Hex Enducation Hour - 1982
197. Todd Rundgren - Something/Anything? - 1972
198. Mercury Rev - Deserters Songs - 1998
199. Dr John: The Night Tripper - Gris-Gris - 1968
200. Elvis Costello - Imperial Bedroom - 1982

200. Elvis Costello - Imperial Bedroom - 1982 ?????

from the February 2016 (current) issue
http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/Uncut_P2.htm#Great_albums_2016

i copied it from there mark. fixed the bog star and neil yong typos

Seems like a pretty good list to me, I would probably swap #1 and #2 round but not much argument with the top 20 at least.

Ah no, I was doing apoplexy at the EC pick.

If I was going to pick best typo, "Blond on Blond", but that was in the original too..

Lists are not aimed at music nerds like on ilx. They are useful when starting out and just discovering music and you may get into one or two of the more obscure acts and develop your own way. No one will ever agree on a list. None of these albums are bad (ok i hate lcd soundsytem) but the list is obviously dull white male middlebrow aimed at exactly those types who read uncut.
Its no less predictable really than a best post punk, best rap, best metal, best techno specialist list really.

wish there was more than just tokenism for certain genres though. But you wont get that from uncut.
I dont know if its a writers or readers poll.

Mark that is interesting because lists can be a bit better if they dont have the obvious pick for an artist yet if you dont pick the obvious one people complain too.

As I say, it's not a serious.

By all means, pick "Imperial Bed", or "Safe as Milky" or "Kinda Blue"..

My opinion, for what it's worth, is "a page, well written, about one album is worth a hundred lists", with regard to discovering music, newbie or nerd..

200 Greatest Albums (Mostly) Not Made By Black People EVAR

or women

Moe Tucker at number 4.

I always suspected Nico was a man.

Nico McBrain

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TSGiZQHXfdI/hqdefault.jpg

They couldn't even pick the right Laura Nyro album.

Some decent albums there but CTRL F Bolt Thrower War Master doesn't seem to be working on my laptop for some reason.

Oh sorry my mistake, there it is after What's Going On.

lack of pfunk is the bit i dislike. especially when new order are in there

Interesting picks, although it seems like it must have been an editorial decision to leave out Nevermind.

I think I read this list in, like, 1997.

Plenty of subtle shifts that indicate critics have grown a bit tired of certain longtime critical faves (Troutmask, After The Gold Rush, The Bends, Nevermind) and other albums that didn't make these lists in previous decades showing up (Diamond Dogs, On The Beach, Rock Bottom, Parallel Lines, Liege & Leaf, The Only Ones, Paris 1919, Suicide, Sulk, Radiator).

UK critics lists have always been a bit different to US ones though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYBlfpCVHBo

greatest album of all time or random easy listening instrumental?

Yeah, I'm comparing to other British lists that I've followed for several decades.

i thought they were usually more or less the same every time

which i suppose is your point since a few different albums replaced others

^ It is interesting to see the subtle trends over the years. If I had to guess without looking where OK Computer would rank, I'd guess top five. Surprised to see it ranked 93rd.

Although only five albums in the top fifty were released after the seventies....

If I was going to pick best typo, "Blond on Blond", but that was in the original too..

I nominate "The Guided Palace Of Sin"

heart of the congos as the only token reggae album on the list. no marcus garvey or king tubbys meets rockers uptown? weird

Here's the list reordered by year, because I clearly have too much time on my hands:

1959
Kind Of Blue

1963
Live At The Apollo
The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan
The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady

1964
A Hard Day’s Night

1965
Highway 61 Revisited
Rubber Soul
A Love Supreme
Bringing It All Back Home
Otis Blue

1966
Pet Sounds
Revolver
Blond On Blond

1967
The Velvet Underground & Nico
Forever Changes
Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Are You Experienced
Piper At The Gates Of Dawn
Younger Than Yesterday
Axix: Bold As Love
Safe As Milk
The Who Sell Out

1968
Astral Weeks
The Beatles (White Album)
The Kinks Are The Village Green Society
Electric Ladyland
The Notorious Byrd Brothers
Music From Big Pink
White Light/White Heat
The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter
Eli & The Thirteenth Confession
At Falsom Prison
Beggars Banquet
Sweetheart Of The Rodeo
Lady Soul
Gris-Gris

1969
The Band
Abbey Road
Let It Bleed
Liege & Lief
The Velvet Underground
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
Dusty In Memphis
The Guided Palace Of Sin
In A Silent Way
New York Tendaberry
Tommy
Five Leaves Left

1970
After The Goldrush
Fun House
Loaded
Bitches Brew
Curtis
The Madcap Laughs
Live At Leeds
Moondance
John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band
Paranoid
The Man Who Saved The World

1971
Hunky Dory
What's Going On
Sticky Fingers
Blue
There's A Riot Going On
Led Zeppelin (Iv)
Bryter Later
Tapestry
If Only I Could Remember My Name
Who's Next
Tago Mago
Histoire De Melody Nelson
Surfs Up
Songs Of Love And Hate
Electric Warrior

1972
Ziggy Stardust
Exile On Main Street
Transformer
Ege Bamyasi
No1 Record
Can't Buy A Thrill
Pink Moon
Harvest
The Slider
Something/Anything?

1973
Innervisions
Solid Air
Countdown To Ecstasy
Dark Side Of The Moon
A Wizard, A True Star
Paris 1919
Future Days
3+3
For Your Pleasure

1974
On The Beach
Rock Bottom
Diamond Dogs
Court & Spark
Radio City
Here Come The Warm Jets
No Other

1975
Blood On The Tracks
Horses
The Hissing Of Summer Lawns
Born To Run
Physical Graffiti
Tonight's The Night

1976
Stationtostation
Songs In The Key Of Life
Hejira
Ramones

1977
Marquee Moon
Low
Trans Europe Express
The Clash
Never Mind The Bollocks…
Rumours
Heart Of The Congo’s
"Heroes"
Suicide
My Aim Is True

1978
Third/Sister Lovers
Parallel Lines
The Only Ones
C'est Chic
Darkness On The Edge Of Town
The Man-Machine

1979
London Calling
Off The Wall
Unknown Pleasures
Metal Box
Cut
The Specials
Entertainment!
Fear Of Music

1980
Closer
Remain In Light
Back In Black
Seventeen Seconds

1981
Dare!

1982
You Can’t Hide Your Love Forever
Pornography
Sulk
Thriller
The Nightfly
Hex Enducation Hour
Imperial Bedroom

1983
Murmer
Power Corruption & Lies
Swardfishtrumbone

1984
The Nation's Saving Grace
Purple Rain
The Smiths

1985
Hounds Of Love
Head On The Door
Rain Dogs
Tim
Steve McQueen

1986
The Queen Is Dead
Parade

1987
Sign O The Times
Strangeways Here We Come

1988
It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
Sprit Of Eden
Daydream Nation
Isn't Anything

1989
The Stone Roses
Technique
Disintergration
Doolittle

1990
Heaven Or Las Vegas

1991
Loveless
Screamadalica
Achtung Baby
Blue Lines

1992
Check Your Head
Selected Ambient Works 85-92

1993
In Utero
Modern Life Is Rubbish
Debut
Enter The Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers
Rid Of Me

1994
Dummy
Grace

1995
Maxinquaye
Liquid Swords
(What's The Story) Morning Glory?

1997
Ok Computer
Ladies & Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space
The Boatman’s Call
Radiator

1998
This Is Hardcore
Deserters Songs

2000
Kid A

2001
Time (The Revelator)
Discovery

2002
American Iv: The Man Comes Around

2006
Back To Black
Ys

2007
Sound Of Silver
In Rainbows

been a rough 20 years i guess

Eh, it's not so easy in the 55+ year time span, to displace albums that were both groundbreaking and popular in the first couple decades, especially with an older demographic. I know Uncut has plenty of veteran boomer writers, but not really sure how their age range breaks down exactly. It would be kind of interesting to poll a bigger sample of writers, and then have a filter where you can see what different age groups picked. For it to be interesting, ballots would need to go deeper than 10, preferably 50 or 100.

there's literally no Mercyful Fate on this worthless list

New nomination..

Swardfishtrumbone

Although, The Guided palace of sin is the winner. Someone photoshop some guide dogs onto the cover?

Still, no "Giant Steps", ....

(yeh, either. Alright?)

Lists are not aimed at music nerds like on ilx. They are useful when starting out and just discovering music and you may get into one or two of the more obscure acts and develop your own way. No one will ever agree on a list. None of these albums are bad (ok i hate lcd soundsytem) but the list is obviously dull white male middlebrow aimed at exactly those types who read uncut.

I'm a dull white male middlebrow music nerd who both reads uncut and posts on ilx, and I more or less agree that these are the best albums of all time, so where do I fit into your scheme of things?

So the best seven best recordings in the 100-year history of recorded music were all made within a 3-year period? What an amazing coincidence!

my brother is just getting into music now and one of his methods is asking everyone he plays a game of rocket league against what their favourite song is and compiling them. probably wouldn't even occur to him to pick up a music magazine, but I think his approach is more interesting

Tell your brother some idiot on the internet told him to add "Desmond Dekker - Israelites" to that playlist.

lists like these fulfill a market niche. first, i am coming to believe that lists are more useful to the reader than any other form of music journalism. they're not interesting or fulfilling to write, but "hey listen to this" is the only motivation anybody needs to listen to something. lists are a critical means of contextualizing information. over here we've just gone through the annual orgy of year-end lists, primarily, i think, so we can catch up on all the albums that came out this year we haven't gotten to hear yet.

the tiresome thing about lists like these is that they don't change, not really. it's the same list for the past twenty years, and that's a little depressing. when it comes to white music, ok, sure, "trans europe express" will always be a great record, but they keep using the same token black music picks, and look, public enemy just hasn't held up all that well. it's terrible tokenism, like putting a token rock record in these lists and making it "volunteers". "volunteers" was a revolutionary record at the time, but the world has moved on, you know?

it's hard not to blame the audience. relying on uncut to get information about music is like drinking bottled water exclusively. it's not wrong, but it is sort of stupid and wasteful.

I don't really understand the inclusion of token jazz. Why not - say - token classical? In C or Glassworks would be as good a fit as Black Saint and the Sinner Lady.

xxp I will both ensure that the purity of his list is maintained & that he listens to israelites, which he will definitely love

the token jazz is there to insulate against accusations of racism.

So the best seven best recordings in the 100-year history of recorded music were all made within a 3-year period? What an amazing coincidence!

I love this post

This same list, with some minor variations, has appeared in so many publications I don't understand why they even bother compiling them anymore? Also, can't they just call it "200 albums white rock fans like the most"? In this day and age, does anyone really think this is a comprehensive list of all-time best albums in general, instead of a list of the most iconic rock albums + some token albums from other genres (and it's always the same token albums too)?

presumably a lot of the uncut readers think it is?

One of the weird things about this list is the absence of 1950s rock 'n roll, even though there are plenty of great albums to choose from. In fact no rock at all until A Hard Day's Night. Since these guys find the invention of the electric guitar pivotal, how come no Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, early Elvis, or Johnny Burnette R&R Trio? There's much more obscure stuff that did make the list.

I don't really mind that but why not explicitly limit yourself to that specific subsegment - a 'definitive canon' top 200 of 1967-1977 rock by Uncut would be much more informative than this list that takes 150 of those albums plus a few dozen scattered picks out of what else happened in music over the last 80 years

Yeah, I was gonna say something like this. The Uncut editors should just have the nerve to say, "the music we like basically ended with the 1980s" and cap the list at that point.

They couldn't even pick the right Laura Nyro album

I'm just curious which is the right Laura Nyro album

Yeah, I'd have picked that one.

New York Tendarberry! (cos it has the best cover)

NME Writers All Time Top 100 - 1974

Only 99 Were Listed, The 100th Was Chosen By The Readership.

The 100th Was : The Rolling Stones - Goats Head Soup

1. Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band - The Beatles
2. Blond On Blond - Bob Dylan
3. Pet Sounds - Beach Boys
4. Revolver - The Beatles
5. Highway 61 Revisited - Bob Dylan
6. Electric Ladyland - Jimi Hendrix
7. Are You Experienced? - Jimi Hendeix
8. Abby Road - The Beatles
9. Sticky Fingers - The Rolling Stones
10. Music From Big Pink - The Band
11. Let It Bleed - The Rolling Stones
12. Layla - Derek & The Dominoes
13. The Velvet Underground & Nico - The Velvet Underground
14. Golden Decade Vol 1 - Chuck Berry
15. Rubber Soul - The Beatles
16. Tommy - The Who
17. Bridge Over Troubled Water - Simon & Garfunkel
18. Hunky Dory - David Bowie
19. Beggar’s Banquet - The Rolling Stones
20. Disraeli Gears - Cream
21. Piper At The Gates Of Dawn - Pink Floyd
22. My Generation - The Who
23. Crosby, Stills & Nash - Crosby, Stills & Nash
24. The Rolling Stones - The Rolling Stones
25. Imagine - John Lennon
26. Tapestry - Carole King
27. Ziggy Stardust - David Bowie
28. Freewheelin’ - Bob Dylan
29. Back In The USA - MC5
30. Deja Vu - Crosby, Stills & Nash
31. The Band - The Band
32. Gasoline Alley - Rod Stewart
33. A Hard Day’s Night - The Beatles
34. Every Picture Tells A Story - Rod Stewart
35. Led Zeppelin 4 - Led Zeppelin
36. The Doors - The Doors
37. In The Court Of The Crimson King - King Crimson
38. Exile On Main Street - The Rolling Stones
39. The Beatles - The Beatles
40. The Soft Machine - Soft Machine
41. Hot Rats - Frank Zappa
42. Traffic - Traffic
43. Trout Mask Replica - Captain Beefheart
44. Music From A Dolls House - Family
45. Talking Book - Stevie Wonder
46. Anthology - Smoky Bacon & The Miracles
47. Strange Days - The Doors
48. Led Zeppelin 2 - Led Zeppelin
49. Otis Blue - Otis Redding
50. Stand Up - Jethro Tull
51. Impressions, The - Big 16
52. Love - Forever Changes
53. Young, Neil - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
54. Taylor, James - Sweet Baby James
55. Byrds, The - Fifth Dimension
56. Wings - Band On The Run
57. Bowie, David - The Man Who Sold The World
58. Mothers Of Invention, The - We're Only In It For The Money
59. Rolling Stones, The - Get Your Ya-Yas Out
60. Beck, Jeff, Group - Beck-Ola
61. Stooges, Iggy & The - Raw Power
62. Beach Boys, The - Smiley Smile
63. Morrison, Van - Astral Weeks
64. Velvet Underground, The - Loaded
65. Franklin, Aretha - Greatest Hits
66. Beatles, The - With The Beatles
67. Mitchell, Joni - Blue
68. Mothers Of Invention, The - Freak Out
69. Young, Neil - After The Gold Rush
70. Stills, Stephen - Stephen Stills
71. Winter, Johnny - Johnny Winter And
72. Cocker, Joe - With A Little Help From My Friends
73. Yes - The Yes Album
74. Morrison, Van - Moondance
75. Rundgren, Todd - A Wizard, A True Star
76. Lennon, John - Plastic Ono Band
77. Jefferson Airplane, The - Crown Of Creation
78. Doors, The L.A. Woman
79. Sly & The Family Stone - There's A Riot Going On
80. Who, The - Who's Next
81. Country Joe & The Fish - Electric Music For The Mind & Body
82. Johnson, Robert - King Of The Delta Blues Singers
83. Beach Boys, The - Best Of The Beach Boys Volume 1
84. Mitchell, Joni - Songs For A Seagull
85. Mayall's, John, Bluesbreakers - Bluesbreakers
86. Traffic - Mr Fantasy
87. Dylan, Bob - Bringing It All Back Home
88. Presley, Elvis - Greatest Hits Volume 2
89. Velvet Underground, The - White Light/White Heat
90. Moby Grape - Moby Grape
91. Big Brother & The Holding Co. - Cheap Thrills
92. Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon
93. Doctor John - Gris-Gris
94. Wonder, Stevie - Music Of The Mind
95. Roxy Music - Stranded
96. Beach Boys, The - Surf's Up
97. Newman, Randy - 12 Songs
98. Spirit - The 12 Dreams Of Dr Sardonicus
99. Miller, Steve, Band - Sailor

NME Writers All Time top 100 Albums (from 1993)
1. Pet Sounds - The Beach Boys (Capitol, 1966)
2. Revolver - The Beatles (Parlophone, 1966)
3. Never Mind The Bollocks - The Sex Pistols (Virgin, 1977)
4. What's Going On Marvin Gaye ( Tamla Motown, 1971)
5. The Stone Roses The Stone Roses (Silvertone, 1989)
6. The Velvet Underground & Nico The Velvet Underground ( Verve, 1967)
7. London Calling The Clash (Cbs, 1979)
8. The Beatles The Beatles (Apple, 1968)
9. It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back Public Enemy (Def Jam, 1988)
10. The Queen Is Dead The Smiths (Rough Trade, 1986)
11. Exile On Main Street The Rolling Stones (Rolling Stones,1972)
12. Nevermind Nirvana (Geffen, 1991)
13. The Clash The Clash (Cbs, 1977)
14. Highway 61 Revisited Bob Dylan (Columbia, 1965)
15. Astral Weeks Van Morrison (Warners, 1968)
16. Sign 'O' The Times Prince (Paisley Park, 1987)
17. Blonde On Blonde Bob Dylan (Columbia, 1966)
18. Forever Changes Love (Elektra, 1968)
19. Three Feet High And Rising De La Soul (Big Life 1989)
20. Closer Joy Division (Factory, 1980)
21. Screamadelica Primal Scream (Creation, 1991)
22. Let It Bleed The Rolling Stones (Decca, 1969)
23. Automatic For The People Rem ( Wea, 1992)
24. The Elvis Presley Sun Collection Eivis Presley (Rca, 1975)
25. The Doors The Doors (Elektra, 1967)
26. Marquee Moon Television (Elektra 1977)
27. Psychocandy Jesus & Mary Chain (Blanco Y Negro, 1985)
28. Blue Joni Mitchell (Reprise 1972)
29. Are You Experienced? The Jimi Hendrix Experience ( Track 1967)
30. Live At The Apollo James Brown (London 1963)
31. Horses Patti Smtth (Arista 1975)
32. Innervisions Stevie Wonder (Tamla Motown 1973)
33. Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Band The Beatles ( Parlophone, 1967)
34. Songs For Swinging Lovers Frank Sinatra (Capitol 1955)
35. Otis Blue Otis Redding (Atcon 1966)
36. A Love Supreme John Coltrane (Lmpulse 1967)
37. Fear Of A Black Planet Pubic Enemy (Def Jam 1990)
38. Hunky Dory David Bowle (Rca 1971)
39. Blood And Chocolate Elvis Cosleilo & The Attractions (Imp 1986)
40. The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spioers From Mars David Bowie (Rca 1972)
41. Hatful Of Hollow The Smiths (Rough Trade 1984)
42. Technioue New Order (Factory 1989)
43. Unknown Pleasures Joy Division (Factory 1979)
44. Surfer Rosa Pixies (4AD 1985)
45. Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld The Orb ( Wau Mr Modo1991)
46. Surf's Up The Beach Boys (Stateside 1971)
47. Lust For Life Iggy Pop (RCA 1977)
48. Bringing It All Back Home Bob Dylan (Cbs 1965)
49. Warehouse: Songs And Stories Husker Du ( Warners 1987)
50. Low-Life New Order (Factory 1985)
51. Meaven Up Here Echo And The Bunnymen (Korova 1987)
52. Parallel Lines Blondie (Chrysalis 1978)
53. Grievous Angel Gram Parsons (Reprise 1974)
54. Dusty In Memphis Dusty Springfield (Philips, 1969)
55. Transformer Lou Reed (RCA 1973)
56. Led Zeppelin Iv Led Zeppelin (Atlantic. 1971)
57. All Mod Cons The Jam (Polydor 1978)
58. The Velvet Underground The Velvet Underground (Mgm 1969)
59. We’re Only In It For The Money Mothers Of Invention ( Mgm 1967)
60. Harvest Neil Young (1972)
61. Scott Scott Walker (Philips 1967)
62. The Stooges The Stooges (Eiekira 1969)
63. Everybody Knows This Is Knowhere Neil Young (Repfise 1969)
64. Rubber Soul The Beatles (Parlophone 1967)
65. Greatest Hits Aretha Franklin (Atlantic 1971)
66. After The Goldrush Neii Young (Reprise, 1970)
67. Low David Bowie ( Rca, 1977)
68. Remain In Light Talking Heads (Sire, 1980)
69. Marcus Garvey Burning Spear (Island, 1975)
70. Raindogs Tom Waits (Island, 1985)
71. Dry Harvey ( Too Pure, 1992)
72. The Smiths The Smiths (Rough Trade, 1984)
73. Lazer-Guided Melodies Spiritualized (Dedicated, 1992)
74. Five Leaves Left Nick Drake (Island, 1969)
75. Clear Spot Captain Beefheart (Reprise, 1972)
76. 16 Lovers Lane The Go-Betweens (Beggars Banquet, 1988)
77. Pink Flag Wire (Harvest, 1977)
78. Natty Dread Bob Marley (Island, 1975)
79. Sound Affects The Jam (Polydor 1980)
80. Slster Sonic Youth (Blast First 1987)
81. The White Room The Klf (Klf Communications, 1991)
82. Junkyard The Birthday Party (4ad, 1982)
83. The Kick Inside Kate Bush (Emi 1978)
84. Searching For The Young Soul Rebels Dexy's Midnight Runners (Parlophone, 1980)
85. Blood On The Tracks Bob Dylan (Cbs, 1975)
86. Rum, Sodomy & The Lash The Pogues (Stiff, 1985)
87. Give 'Em Enough Rope The Clash (Cbs, 1978)
88. King Of America Costello Show (F-Beat, 1986)
89. Talking With The Taxman About Poetry Billy Bragg (Go! Discs, 1986)
90. Third/Sister Lovers Big Star (Ardent, 1978)
91. Like A Prayer Madonna (Sire 1959)
92. Reading, Writing And Arithmetic The Sundays (Rough Trade, 1990)
93. Off The Wall Michael Jackson (Epic 1979)
94. Tonight's The Night Neil Young (Reprise, 1975)
95. This Nation's Saving Grace The Fall ( Beggars Banquet 1985)
96. Metal Box Pil ( Virgin 1979)
97. Blue Lines Massive Attack ( Wild Bunch, 1991)
98. Younger Than Yesterday The Byrds (Cbs 1967)
99. Who's Next? The Who ( Track 1971)
100. To Be Announced ???????

The 100th Album Was Voted By The Readership Of NME, It Was Happy Mondays - Bummed.

if you start with the one posted upthread from 1974 its interesting to see which albums have remained in favour, which have fallen out of favour and which have been rediscovered that was ignored at the time.

sorta forgot just how 'canon' The Stone Roses was even a few years after it came out.

91. Like A Prayer Madonna (Sire 1959)
Yes yes we know she's old.

Dark Side of the Moon not considered so hot in 1974

token picks from the uncut list -
soul/RnB
13. Marvin Gaye - What's Going On - 1971
41. Otis Redding - Otis Blue - 1965
44. Sly And The Family Stone - There's A Riot Going On - 1971
46. Michael Jackson - Off The Wall - 1979
49. Stevie Wonder - Songs In The Key Of Life - 1976
67. Stevie Wonder - Innervisions - 1973
68. James Brown - Live At The Apollo - 1963
152. Aretha Franklin - Lady Soul - 1968
180. Michael Jackson - Thriller - 1982
127. Chic - C'est Chic - 1978
131. The Isley Brothers - 3+3 - 1973

jazz
14. Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue - 1959
35. John Coltrane - A Love Supreme - 1965
119. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew - 1970
148. Miles Davis - In A Silent Way - 1969

hip hop
22. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back - 1988
160. The Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers - 1993
166. GZA - Liquid Swords - 1995

reggae
110. The Congos - Heart Of The Congo’s - 1977
117. The Specials - The Specials - 1979 (semi-counts)

electronic/dance -
150. Massive Attack - Blue Lines - 1991
151. Daft Punk - Discovery - 2001
167. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92 - 1992
184. Kraftwerk - The Man-Machine - 1978

(the eno, tricky and portishead could probably go in here but they seem so part of the rock canon now, i didnt bother)

funny how these things never change.

More token soul albums ;)

Mojo – The 70 Best Soul Albums Of The 70’s From Mojo 202, Sept 2010

1. Stevie Wonder – Innervisions
2. Marvin Gaye – What’s Going On
3. Sly And The Family Stone – There’s A Riot Going On
4. Isaac Hayes – The Isaac Hayes Movement
5. The Temptations – Sky’s The Limit
6. Bobby Womack – Understanding
7. Aretha Franklin – Sprit In The Dark
8. James Brown – There It Is
9. Funkadelic – Maggot Brain
10. Chic – C’est Chic
11. Barry White – Can’t Get Enough
12. The Commodores – Machine Gun
13. Millie Jackson – Caught Up
14. Michael Jackson – Off The Wall
15. Earth Wind And Fire – I Am
16. Parliament – Motor Booty Affair
17. Eddie Hinton – Very Extremely Dangerous
18. The Isley Brothers – 3 + 3
19. Gil Scott-Heron – Pieces Of A Man
20. Curtis Mayfield – Curtis
21. Al Green – Call Me
22. Ann Peebles – Straight From The Heart
23. Donny Hathaway – Extension Of A Man
24. Gladys Knight And The Pips – Imagination
25. The Detroit Spinners – Spinners
26. Lady Hutson – Hutson
27. Bill Withers – Still Bill
28. War – The World Is A Ghetto
29. Minnie Riperton – Perfect Angel
30. Shaggie Otis – Inspiration Information
31. Johnnie Taylor – Taylored In Silk
32. Terry Callier – What Colour Is Love?
33. Labelle – Nightbirds
34. The Soul Children – Friction
35. Teddy Pendergrass – Teddy Pendergrass
36. Bootsy’s Rubber Band – Aah..The Name Is Bootsy, Baby!
37. Wilson Picket – In Philadelphia
38. Shirley Brown – Woman To Woman
39. Syreeta – Stevie Wonder Presents
40. Laura Lee – Woman’s Love Rights
41. Tyrone Davis – Turn Back The Hands Of Time
42. Chaka Khan – Chaka
43. Chairman Of The Board – Skin I’m In
44. Sister Sledge – We Are Family
45. Ohio Players – Skin Tight
46. Willie Hutch – The Mack
47. The Last Poets – This Is Madness
48. 24 Carrt Black – Ghetto: Misfortune Wealth
49. Allen Toussant – Southern Nights
50. Esther Phillips – From A Whisper To A Scream
51. Kool And The Gang – Light Of The World
52. The O’jays – Ship Ahoy
53. Smokey Robinson – A Quiet Storm
54. Denise Lasalle – Trapped By A Thing Called Love
55. Donna Summer – Bad Girls
56. Maggie Joseph – Makes A New Impression
57. Honey Cone – Sweet Replies
58. Lee Dorsey – Yes We Can
59. Rose Royce – Car Wash
60. Sam Dees – The Show Must Go On
61. Roberta Flack – Chapter Two
62. Billy Paul – War Of The Gods
63. Barbara Mason – Give Me Your Love
64. Betty Davis – Nasty Gal
65. The Staples Singers – City In The Sky
66. Candi Staton – Young Hearts Run Free
67. The Jacksons – Destiny
68. Lee Moses – Time And Place
69. Eugene Mcdaniels – Headless Heroes Of The Apocalypse
70. Cymande – Cymande

Compilations

1. Phillybusters: The Sound Of Philadelphia
2. Atlantic Black Gold
3. Wattstax: The Living World
4. Motown Chartbusters Volume 7
5. All Platinum Gold

the 80s list shows how the beatles were out of fashion and back then the elvis look was huge. but, possibly when Mojo started, the beatles came back and exploded again with britpop/oasis and elvis is strictly oldies again.

the nme and mojo 93 lists were HUGE for me though to appreciating music that wasnt just currently around.

Wow The Doors really really went out of style huh.

But then again, seems like all overtly psychedelic psychedelia went out of style.

What drops out of lists is often more interesting (or at least telling) than what stayed in.

they did but a brief revival early 90s iirc.
im thinking that music from the previous decade is still recent enough to like (especially) if bands are still going but 20 years before not so much. Then a revival.
But revivals seem to happen after 10 years now!

What drops out of lists is often more interesting (or at least telling) than what stayed in.

and what replaces them sometimes. Especially if 60s albums replace other 60s albums 70s with 70s etc. Its funny how despite how set in stone the canon seems it does replace old with old rather than old with new.

Thought it was interesting that the first Roxy entry in the 74 list was 95, if im not mistaken

Psychedelia is only ever really in fashion during times of relative prosperity, though. The 60s, the 80s, the bubble bits of the 00s. During times of financial crisis and austerity The Canon tends to drop all the noodle peace and love vibe and go for the more roots or plain or ~authentic~ sorts of styles hence your 70s and your '10s. Hence you get all people who were repping for psych in previous cycles repping for metal or country now.

why do all these rock lists put kind of blue as the top miles album?

i mean, not that i don't like it, it just feels honestly like none of them actually ever listen to him. like wouldn't rock fans be more into the 70s stuff? some of that borders on metal...

this one fact is good enough to sink these lists, not that there aren't a few hundred like it.

Best ever albums of all time:

http://www.besteveralbums.com/overall.php

Compiled from over 21,000 best albums charts. No surprises in there.

Well, Funeral by Arcade Fire on 10 is kind of a surprise. 3 Beatles albums and 2 Radiohead in the top 10s

One of the weird things about this list is the absence of 1950s rock 'n roll, even though there are plenty of great albums to choose from. In fact no rock at all until A Hard Day's Night. Since these guys find the invention of the electric guitar pivotal, how come no Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, early Elvis, or Johnny Burnette R&R Trio? There's much more obscure stuff that did make the list.

I didn't think these artists were primarily album-oriented artists, though? In some cases, their most famous singles were compiled on albums after a bunch were released. If the writers were excluding compilations, I can see why these might be left out.

Still, shouldn't say the Buddy Holly S/T at least be able to displace The Band, T-Rex or the 4th/5th Neil Young album?

LocalGarda the dream album of Miles and Trane together? 1 token instead of 2 for some lists!
Other than that ..lazyness. Too many thing they only need 1 or 2 jazz (or indeed any genre) albums.

Hence you get all people who were repping for psych in previous cycles repping for metal or country now.

maybe previously but since the 90s metal stopped being music of the working class. Like indie its very middle class (possibly why some indie mags will embrace it i suppose but not Mojo, Uncut , Rolling Stones)

For those mags metal stopped with zep/sabbath and they arent exactly heavy compared to modern stuff.

maybe previously but since the 90s metal stopped being music of the working class.

Oh, bullshit. Who the fuck do you think goes to see Slayer? Or Megadeth, Five Finger Death Punch, or any of the other inescapably metal bands you just don't happen to like, and view as beneath you?

im talking about the UK

im also working class fwiw

and i do like classic slayer and megadeth you white power prick

and since you seem to think i was a middle class person looking down on working class metal fans i , a working class person from a working class family, was actually bemoaning that metal in the uk had lost its working class roots and was being made by lots of middle class people (much like any artform in the UK the past decade or so. ) and was also listened to by lots of middle class hipsters amongst other things.
Metal here has long since lost its working class roots. Not that it should be exclusively working class but nor should working class bands not get the opportunity richer kids get.
Next time just remember i am talking froma UK perspective, not everyone on ILX is from north america.

ps a one of my old schoolpals who was middle class loved slayer,megadeth,metallica etc.
not that it matters

who goes to download and those kind of events? i imagine its more people from outside london/the south than in, not sure about the class though.

a mix of everyone

but back in the 70s early 80s im told by people who were at reading,donington, gigs etc it was very much working class dominated.
It's a good thing its not just working class people into metal, i just got annoyed at phil's constant digs to me about looking down at people , insinuating im middle class! (does middle class mean the same in the usa?)

and i do think that there's more middle class kids than working class into metal and has been like that since I got into it.

I dunno why that has happened in the UK. Its been like that from way before metal got a bit trendy again. in the 90s it was anything but trendy.

these of course are all my own personal experiences

bruce dickinson is extremely posh and perhaps that made metal acceptable? I have friends who went to public (private) school in the 80s and they said metal (esp maiden,slayer,gnr, poison, megadeth etc) were the most popular. Yet at my state school there wasnt very many into it at all. I wasnt into it then yet either.

I didn't think these artists were primarily album-oriented artists, though? In some cases, their most famous singles were compiled on albums after a bunch were released. If the writers were excluding compilations, I can see why these might be left out.

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not sure about the others but chuck berry actually did make regular albums, a couple of which were almost entirely non-singles material, it's just that those albums have been eclipsed by all the singles collections. it's a shame b/c the albums i've heard of his are really great, espec. "st louis to liverpool," from 1964.

Cool, thanks for clarifying.

trying to think back to what my classmates were listening to when I was in high school/sixth form (about 15 years ago, so at the height of the nu-metal era), as far as I can recall there were ppl into rap or hardhouse + trance who were almost exclusively working class, ppl into indie who almost exclusively the poshest students, metal fans mostly seemed to be from some sort of ambiguous working class/lower middle class grey area, but also probably more diverse in terms of the class background compared to the other two groups?
most of the metal fans I'be encountered in adult life could probably be described as lower middle class, I'm struggling to think of any properly public school posh people I've met who like metal? obv a lot of this is determined by the kinds of circles I run in

bemoaning that metal in the uk had lost its working class roots and was being made by lots of middle class people (much like any artform in the UK the past decade or so. )

yeah let's prevent the poor from entering the middle class. idiot.

stop talking pish, i didnt say that, I said working class people weren't getting the chances they used to as the creative arts have been taken over by the middle classes. Prick.

then say that

seriously, this must be a uk thing

argh whatever, sorry for pooping it up

it is, im from the UK. Does middle class mean something different in the US?

I think the British middle classes are far more posher and therefore more disliked than their more beleaguered and low end Kulakish American counterparts. Or at least that is the vibe I get by the way US posters react to UK class bigotry.

ok that would make sense. Cheers. I asked because I read something on the BBC news site about Obama always talking about the middle classes and I got the impression he was talking about what we call upper working classes - people who own their own homes have decent jobs.

this was a few weeks ago but cant find it

No, really we aren't. But hating "The Middle Class" as a shorthand for everything that is wrong with this country is a great way of distracting attention from the actual pigfucking elites that actually rule us all, cheers.

i never said I hated the middle classes did i? i have as many middle class as working class friends. But you must be aware of musicians, artists, actors all saying that if they were young now they wouldn't make it. The pigfucking elite is to blame for this!

To add to the topic of '50s rock 'n rollers making albums, quite a few worked both sides of the aisle, separately making singles and albums, no different from the Beatles in the late '60s. Another example is Elvis's first LP - Uncut contributors may recognize it as the one that looks like London Calling - which was essentially recorded as an album (with some Sun sessions tracks added to fill it out) and which went to #1. No singles came from it for about five months (at which point every track was released on a single simultaneously!). There was also Gene Vincent and His Blue Caps (1957), a real album with no singles, considered such an important release that they brought their ex-lead guitarist Cliff Gallup back to record it. Then there was Bo Diddley making quasi-themed albums such as Bo Diddley Is a Gunslinger; you could argue about how great they were, but they were influential.

and the great thing about music is that it brings us all together. I know people with PhD's for instance who are very middle and upper middleclass who i would never have met, and possibly they may not have had anything to do with me socially but do, because of music. But I worry that may not happen in the future. I'm no class warrior but I do believe in fairness and equality for all.