Alienation and the Avant-Garde

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I am writing a paper for my alienation class about alienation and the avant-garde and I know there's a lot of stuff out there, but I would like a step in the right direction. Anyone know any resources?

T. Weiss (Timmy), Friday, 1 November 2002 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Now they have alienation classes at college? When I was there we just took it for granted that that's what all the classes were.

The two heavyweights of your essay should, I think, be Bertolt Brecht and Viktor Shklovsky. My thoughts on the latter are in an essay on my site, which you're welcome to rip off if it's of any earthly use to you.

There's a good reading list on this subject on the Birkbeck College site.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 1 November 2002 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.scifi.com/aliennation/img/a_01.jpg

Wally Benjamin, Friday, 1 November 2002 06:09 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.scifi.com/aliennation/img/anation_a_01.jpg

Search: Foster, Hal. The Return of the Real: The Avant-Garde at the End of the Century (MIT Press)

hal foster, Friday, 1 November 2002 06:23 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.beefheart.com/zine/001/gendergj1.htm

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 1 November 2002 09:34 (twenty-two years ago)

i listen to a lot of "avant" stuff where i'm sure the intent is to alienate, and a lot of the time that's what i get off on. befuddled & bemused & baffled is in general how i like to feel during my leisure time.

bob snoom, Friday, 1 November 2002 10:56 (twenty-two years ago)

however there is a lot of po-faced "avant-garde" stuff out there that alienates due to it's extreme self importance. ie the way AMM i don't think have knowingly denounced any connections third parties might make between them and various buddhist practices or reference to the guys & their work as "meta-music" . long songs - maybe it's an unnecessary prog / classical hangover. i don't mind playing something all day if the mood takes me, but i wouldnae expect anybody to listen / appreciate or hold the emanent sounds in any sort of esteem. now NNCK kinda get round the long song prog improv thing by being caveman ropey & having a sense of humour - it's still a music of a certain gravity, but with bad '80s sampled percussion stabs and blatant shameless tribute lou-reedisms. maybe that's what i gind refreshing compared to some of the more old school "academic" approaches. some of these guys haven't gotten over themselves or the pointlessness of their endeavours in the grand scheme of things.

bob snoom, Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)


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