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destined to be unearthed and exalted by futurokids freed from uk white soul baggage, or as dr c said somewhere else once: "what a twat"

bob zemko (bob), Monday, 4 November 2002 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)

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bob zemko (bob), Monday, 4 November 2002 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)

only i listened to the s/t CD today and despite hating the idea of me liking it, and STILL not really even liking taylor that much throughout (such constant posturing!!) i dunno what exactly it was that i couldn't dismiss. the dynamics, the uh 2D arrangement, the space.

bob zemko (bob), Monday, 4 November 2002 02:20 (twenty-two years ago)

who is lewis taylor? lawrence's brother?

keith (keithmcl), Monday, 4 November 2002 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

'Lucky's pretty cool...excellent stylish brooding intro - i only heard it on the soundtrack to the film 'Face' tho

blueski, Monday, 4 November 2002 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Destined to be reexcavated, if there is any justice in the world. I can see why his combination of prog and funk might alienate both of these 'markets': all that means is they're missing out.

The first album is one of the best of the 90s. Dynamics, as you say: an extraordinary grip on a very funky climax-and-release (I think marcello has descrrbed this well in his website blog); and a breadth and depth of melodrama, sound, and wit that repays constant relistenings.

Crap lyrics, though.

What is this s/t you mention?

jon (jon), Monday, 4 November 2002 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i, ahem, re-excavated him in the church of me on 15 september.

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 4 November 2002 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

The new album's pretty good, if a bit poppier than the first.

I'd agree with Jon that the first album is one of the best of the 90s. It sounded unusual when I first heard it, still sounds unusual now.

What's the problem with the "idea of" Lewis Taylor? Whatever the idea, the reality's pretty good.

Great guitarist and studio manipulator besides that voice.

James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 4 November 2002 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked "Lucky" and "Bittersweet" quite a lot, but I can't imagine having the tolerance level to stomach a whole album of it. Hated the way he was described as "blue eyed soul" by stupid radio announcers back in 1995/6/whever it was, too.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 4 November 2002 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah but you like everything nowadays marcello ;>


bob zemko (bob), Monday, 4 November 2002 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...
ooo boy he's great. has anyone heard the new album?

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 10 May 2003 04:18 (twenty-two years ago)

too many slow straight ones on that first album. i love it, but i'd hoped he'd go further "out" next time.

gaz (gaz), Saturday, 10 May 2003 06:18 (twenty-two years ago)

But he did didn't he, on Lewis II? (I think his best move was actually writing a TITLE TRACK to an album called Lewis II!!)

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 10 May 2003 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

did he? must find then.

gaz (gaz), Saturday, 10 May 2003 06:43 (twenty-two years ago)

The new album is very good. Includes Lewis IV (one of the better tracks, particularly if you like the darker, more obsessive side of LT). (And there's also a Lewis III out there - a b-side which is a bit of a Brian Wilson tribute.)

You couldn't say he's gone further 'out there' on this one - there are tracks in a similar vein to the first album alongside poppier efforts (the lovely 'Send me an angel').

Worth hearing though. As is the second one - a lot denser, and he seems to have disowned it himself but I like it.

James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

Wow, I picked up Lewis Taylor's The Lost Album today, totally on a whim, and it's floored me so far. Nothing revolutionary about these songs, but Taylor's multi-tracked harmonies make this very immediate.

Anyone else heard it? An ILX search turned up almost no discussion of Taylor (and I hadn't heard of him before reading a few recommendations for this disc).

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 24 August 2007 03:04 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I downloaded it from emusic a while ago and it's really lovely. Much more of a Todd Rundgren vibe than you would expect given his rep as a soul guy.

cheasyweasel, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

Like The Lost Album, love Stoned.

ellaguru, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

"Leader Of The Band" also great...

henry s, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

very odd, sitting here in Colorado listening to The Lost Album. So I still have not heard what is described as blue-eyed soul previous records, but definitely on some of this he sounds like Marvin Gaye. But this is one great record by any standard--now he plays like Hendrix, now he multi-tracks like later Arthur Lee, now he sounds like Brian Wilson, now he uncannily evokes Big Star (on "Listen Here," which is sort of everyhing Chris Bell ever wanted to do, right down to LT's guitar solo which brings "I Am the Cosmos" to mind. But he kinda cuts or at least holds his own with all the above, and I think it comes off, well, excessively musical, canny and elusive, as opposed to just another homage. I've had this record since it came out and I'm just now hearing how incredible it is. I think the excessive musicality works against, commercially, and I do perceive here how the lyrics (someone upthread says this) could be heard as kinda dopey. On the other hand, he sings his ass off and another comparison might be Green Gartside, in the sense that you've got someone manipulating this stuff but somehow staying really heartfelt. There are some incredibly subtle and amazingly fucking solid ideas on every song, and "Listen Here" and "Leader of the Band" I've become slightly addicted to. It sounds great out here in the clean mountain air, big cumulus clouds marching along in a blue sky...

whisperineddhurt, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:31 (eighteen years ago)

four months pass...

Every few months these days, when I feel like I need a pick-me-up (but not of the "angry" or "ironic" variety), I return to The Lost Album. Today (New Year's Day, 2008) is one of those days.

What a great album. At the moment, I'm mostly hooked on Hide Your Heart Away, and really loving the little touches in it, e.g., the echoing voices that fade out with the song. And every comparison point Whisperineddhurt makes above is absolutely OTM.

Listening to this, I wonder why Lewis isn't bigger. He has a big pop sound, the harmonies are amazing, and there are interesting ideas in every song on The Lost Album. The point above -- that Taylor's music is "excessively musical" -- sounds possibly right ("Too many notes," Antonio Salieri might say). The lyrics are dopey, but I can't imagine this holds Taylor back.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 15:44 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, I need to get this back out--it's late-summer/early fall music, if you know what I mean. I guess by "excessively musical" I mean subtle--there's something really classically finished about his music that coexists nicely with what can seem like looseness. I think he ranks up there with Chris Bell, Chilton, Crenshaw, Stamey, at the game of instant nostalgia which is also real longing. I gotta get his whole catalog this year, good new yr's resolution. Anyway, could be why he's "not bigger," Daniel--maybe he can seem thoeretical to people who aren't pop obsessive types (but why deny yourself that pleasure?). and man, his Brian Wilson imitation is uncanny.

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 16:33 (seventeen years ago)

I haven't downloaded his other discs available on eMusic: Stoned, Pt. 2 and Limited Edition. The samples sound very different from The Lost Album, though. I see references above to Taylor discs, but I'm not sure they're the same ones eMusic has available (which appear via the attached link). If anyone's heard them and has an opinion, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Now that I'm giving it further thought, maybe the reason that Taylor isn't "bigger" is because there isn't much room on the charts these days for either "blue-eyed soul" (terrible term) or power-pop? For instance, with their amazingly catchy hooks, I wonder why The New Pornographers haven't been chart staples, but in some ways, I think their type of music is bit of an anachronism these days.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

not heard anything since lewis 2 but always found his faux marvin gaye vocals a little annoying. love 'lucky' from the first album though.

titchyschneiderMk2, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 16:47 (seventeen years ago)

not heard anything since lewis 2 but always found his faux marvin gaye vocals a little annoying. love 'lucky' from the first album though.

Have you heard The Lost Album? I hear Marvin Gaye in Taylor's voice, but it hardly sounds like pastiche or mere mimicry to me.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:25 (seventeen years ago)

I just popped into a Lewis Taylor forum to see if it had information about upcoming projects. Instead, I see some fans reporting that Taylor is working as a plumber now. Maybe that's just something for Taylor to do between projects, but to me it's another example of how the music industry -- really the arts, in general, with some exceptions -- are not a meritocracy. This is the point I was making (inartfully, in all likelihood) on the Bill Cosby Defeated Hip Hop thread.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 18:11 (seventeen years ago)

"are" = "is" in the second-to-last sentence above. thx.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

An ILX thread got me wondering about my favorite albums of the decade. I think The Lost Album is among them, so I went over to a Lewis Taylor fansite and saw this announcement:

Latest Official News
direct from LT's management

Lewis Taylor no longer records or performs, he quit the music industry in June 2006. He doesn’t support this fansite or any myspace profile.

That's a shame. The guy is very talented.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 24 May 2009 00:05 (sixteen years ago)

six months pass...

this is great ! wow. seriously, how someone this talented gets thrown to the wayside is just sad...
and yes this music is meant for "theoretical pop obsessive types". probably too "musical " for those who like their pop generic and MOR, and probably too "pop" for those who are interested in the proggier aspects of the music.

oscar, Thursday, 17 December 2009 02:32 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, it is a great album. Anyone have an update on the guy since he retired in June 2006? His website has been frozen in cache form since then, and there's no new information anywhere.

He's entitled to his privacy and to totally back away from the public light, of course. I was hoping he'd decide to record again.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 17 December 2009 02:39 (fifteen years ago)

It happens, occasionally.

I only know Robbie Williams' cover version.

Good luck to the guy.

Mark G, Friday, 18 December 2009 08:34 (fifteen years ago)

There should be a thread "Artists who just walked away", i.e. reasons other than 'health'...

Lewis Taylor, The Sundays, etc

Mark G, Friday, 18 December 2009 08:36 (fifteen years ago)

The wiki page needs a bit of work too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Taylor

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 18 December 2009 10:11 (fifteen years ago)

six years pass...

Well this is fascinating if frustrating...

http://souljones.com/exclusive-features/2016/6/14/questions-answers-lewis-taylor

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Monday, 29 August 2016 17:20 (nine years ago)

wow. good on him.

Len Bincowank (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 August 2016 17:41 (nine years ago)

four years pass...

Releasing a new album this year apparently …this has now officially been a most strange year

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Friday, 2 July 2021 02:23 (four years ago)

one year passes...

It’s out now, and it’s gorgeous

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 18:28 (three years ago)


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