Essential folk/rock?

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Ok, inspired by my thread about Love. What others should I check out?

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 4 November 2002 23:19 (twenty-three years ago)

The Byrds, obviously. Simon and Garfunkle.

Vic Funk, Monday, 4 November 2002 23:47 (twenty-three years ago)

English or American?

steve k, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 00:39 (twenty-three years ago)

either is fine with me.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Any Sandy Denny-era Fairport Convention, especially "Unhalfbricking." And almost any Richard & Linda Thompson album, especially those that include the word "light" or "lights" in their titles.

Mike Appelstein (mike a), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 01:20 (twenty-three years ago)

The Incredible String Band: Hangman's Beautiful Daughter, Wee Tam, The Big Huge
Fairport Convention: What We Did on Our Holidays, Unhalfbricking, Liege and Lief
Mellow Candle: Swaddling Songs
Tangerine (French and English): De L'Autre Cote de la Foret

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 01:22 (twenty-three years ago)

i like the acoustic stuff very much as well. of course im a big nick drake fan, so stuff like his i enjoy.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 01:26 (twenty-three years ago)

John Martyn - especially Solid Air

gazza, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 06:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Check out Pearls Before Swine's first 2 albums, 'One Nation Underground' & 'Balaklava'. Also Tim Buckley, Buffalo Springfield, Skip Spence, Pentangle's 'Early Classics', Vashti Bunyan, Wendy & Bonnie.

Curt (cgould), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 06:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Please please please search the first three Al Stewart albums (yes - he of Year Of The Cat fame), "Bedsitter Images", "Zero She Flies" and his classic "Love Chronicles" the latter with some awesome Jimmy Page guitar solos...

You won't regret it....


Baxter Wingnut, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 07:45 (twenty-three years ago)

parameter "galactic ramble"
damon "song of a gypsy"
donovan
amon duul (I) "paradieswarts duul"
the way we live "candle for judith"
axe "live & studio" (features a cover of "a house is not a motel")
water into wine band
lollipop shoppe has some nice love-style mellow stuff on their LP

folkier:
jake holmes "the above ground sound of jake holmes"
oliver "standing stone"
C.O.B. "spirit of love"
steve tilston "an acoustic confusion"
mark fry "dreaming with alice"
simon finn "pass the distance"

since people are talking about straight-up folk as well, the moths' "heron's daughter" is brilliant. has an amazing cover of tim buckley's already stunning "phantasmagoria in two" that recasts it in a more straight-up acid folk vein with hand drums and everything.

your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 08:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd echo Mike on the Fairport Convention and Richard & Linda Thompson stuff. (Bought 'I want to see the bright lights tonight' on CD the other day after having it on tape for years - even better than I remembered it.)

Also, any Sandy Denny solo stuff. There's a great compilation called 'Listen Listen' which blew me away when I first heard it.

In a different vein, if you're looking at Irish folk/rock (or folk/punk?) the Pogues' first 2 albums.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 09:37 (twenty-three years ago)

US - Fred Neil "Everybody's Talking"
UK - John Martyn "Solid Air"

These are 2 of the greatest records I have come across in the last 10 years: I guarantee you will love them.

bham, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 10:08 (twenty-three years ago)

You need The Pentangle (stick with the first four albums for now: Sweet Child, eponymous, Basket of Light, Cruel Sister. Solomon's Seal is also interesting.)

Any Bert Jansch is alays a classic: His self-titled debut rocks as does
It Don't Bother Me - this is the guy generally regarded as either being the finest acoustic guitarist of his generation or as having three hands. The Bert Jansch/John Renbourn album (imaginatively titled Bert and John) is a bit special.

If you can track it down, give Sixto Rodriguez' stuff an ear (check Cold Fact). It's tripped out singer/songwriter stuff drenched in bizarre effects and lush orchestration. I promise, you won't be disappointed.

Leo Kottke is another guitarist/singer chap who is more than capable of hitting the spot. You may have to be selective though, Rhino's Leo Kottke Anthology is pretty comprehensive and probably as good as it gets.

Jackson C Frank's Blues Run the Game.

Obviously, Fairport.

Moby Grape's Al 'Skip' Spence's solo effort Oar is regarded as a classic of the genre but I can't get along with it - still, it may tickle your toes.

If you like the psychedelic edge to the Love stuff, check out fellow Californians The Peanut Butter Conspiracy: The Peanut Butter Conspiracy Is Spreading issued on CD with The Great Conspiracy.

Also The United States Of America self-titled from '68 is another absolute classic, tho no guitars - all insane effects specially created for the group, with bass, drums and uhm, electric violin.

For more recent stuff, maybe check Hope Sandoval's solo stuff (Bavarian Fruit Bread features 'ole Jaschey).

Woodbine's self-titled.

Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 10:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Terry Callier's stuff is great - the New Folk Sound from 1966 is recorded with two double basses and can cause time to actually stop. Mainly trad songs but brilliantly done. His three Cadet albums from the early 70's have lusher arrangements with some more jazz and soul influences combined with amazing songwriting. The First Light comp is a great halfway hosue of rougher live and demo versions, recorded in the late 60's, of the songs he'd release in the early 70's. After that is pretty much for fans only.

I'm just listening to John & Beverly Martin's Stormbringer which is nice but not as good as Solid Air.

Also I can second the Fairport's, Pentangle, Fred Neil suggestions as all essential.

Pearls Before Swine are well worth checking - I saw Tom Rapp (ex lead singer) at Terrastock and he was amazing.

David Crosby's first solo album "If Only I could Remember My Name" is good.

What about Joni Mitchell - some good stuff if a bit more singer songwriter-y.

tigerclawskank, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 11:58 (twenty-three years ago)

And of course Witthuser & Westrup's "Trips Und Traume" album of kraut-folky shroom-y silliness like "Nimm Mir Doch Einen Joint Mein Freund".

tigerclawskank, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 11:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Talk of double basses makes me think of 'Happy Sad' by Tim Buckley. Folk-y bordering on jazz rather than folk, but essential listening anyway.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 12:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I though someone had mentioned the mighty Timbo already - aboslutely, BLue Afternoon is probably my favourite album ever (tied with Starsailor - the Tim Buckley album I hasten to add).

tigerclawskank, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 15:03 (twenty-three years ago)

i am quite partial to bonnie prince billy- i see a darkness and other will oldham projects for that matter

todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 15:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Robin Carmody to thread, surely.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 19:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Some German bands:

Emtidi - Saat
Hoelderlin - Hoelderlins Traum
Broeselmaschine - Broeselmaschine

Some Popol Vuh is pretty folky, too. Try "Letzte Tage - Letzte Naechte" or "Einsjaeger und Siebenjaeger".

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 23:11 (twenty-three years ago)

The Pogues are good.

Callum (Callum), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 00:48 (twenty-three years ago)

the pretty things "s.f. sorrow" - i mean, what the hell. it's more rock than folk but there are definite elements of folk in there, it rules, and pete townshend allegedly ripped it off for "tommy." which it is much, much better than.

your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 14:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll mention local-boy folk popster Bill Fox. He has two cds on SpinArt that are some of the finest folk pop I've ever heard.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 17:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Bill Fox seconded. Shelter From the Smoke has some of the best terse songs this side of Lois & Stuart Moxham. I hope he puts out something new soon. Is he from Kansas or Cleveland?

Curt (cgould), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 17:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Surprised Phil Ochs and Julie Driscoll haven't been mentioned... I think they're my favs of the moment.

Ditto on the Fred Neil and Bert Jansch recommendations. They both hold up very well.

Aaron W, Wednesday, 6 November 2002 18:19 (twenty-three years ago)

So, can we by any stretch of the imagination regard Wilco as a folk/rock band? If so, I think they definitely deserve mention. Great melodies and lyrics and grooves and everything.

Also, Ben Harper's music is definitely heavily folk-influenced, yet it also definitely rocks. Would that be folk/rock?

nickalicious, Wednesday, 6 November 2002 19:53 (twenty-three years ago)

If you like the early Fairport stuff then the earlier Steeleye Span albums are good too. If you can leave the rock part off, then you can get into the more stright folk stuff like the maddy prior/june tabor albums, nic jones, kate rusby, etc.

g (graysonlane), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 22:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Curt, Bill Fox is from Cleveland (that's where I live). He was in power popsters The Mice back in the 80's (they released a pretty decent record called Scooter). He's had some mental problems and I'm not sure he's active anymore.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 22:33 (twenty-three years ago)

The suggestions so far have been ok, but they're all a bit old.

New(ish) folk which is worth investigating;

Gillian Welch - Hell amongst the yearlings
James Yorkston - Moving up country
Jackie Leven - Forbidden songs of the dying west/fairytales for hard men
Candidate - Tiger flies

And anything with a Carthy at the end.

Linda Thompson has a new record which is probably worth checking out, she's been working with David Thomas and Jackie Leven recently.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 22:51 (twenty-three years ago)

new recommendations:
greg weeks _awake like sleep_
the iditarod (the stuff they did at terrastock was amazing - haven't heard their newest album so i don't know if it was largely from that album or new tunes or different arrangements or what...)

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 7 November 2002 00:19 (twenty-three years ago)

anyone mentioned shirley and dolly collins yet? love, death and the maiden is the business. strange, heartbreaking music that can really take you over and desperate to find more like it.

try and hear "six dukes" from it, probably the saddest song ever to contain the word "bowels".

also richard and linda thompson's "i want to see the bright lights tonight" is a true classic album.

Yes/No Interlude (Yes/No Interlude), Thursday, 7 November 2002 01:06 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
Some stuff i don't believe has been mentioned:

Steeleye Span - The Hills of Greenmore, a 2CD collection of highlights from the first 4 albums, i'd track them down if they rereleased/remastered them

Sandy Denny - No more sad refrains

Anne Briggs - A Collection: Untouchable genius, one of the finest records i've heard, any folk/rock fan should buy it. Hard, but so rewarding.

Anne Briggs - The Time Has Come + Sing a song for you: these albums came out in the early 70s. Anne lightens up (a little), with more fun, less spartan arrangements/ideals. More self-penned originals too, tho some still sound as old as the hills. Obv. not as intense and powerful, but joyful, fresh and very sexy.

The Albion Band - Morris on: Brilliant and cool. For those, like me, breathlessly awaiting the morris revival, this will have to do in the meantime. Has anyone heard Son of Morris on?

Shirley Collins + The Albion Band - No Roses: A sort of 'mature' alternative to Liege & Lief, with perhaps more considered depth.

I'd be grateful for an appraisal of the whole Ashley Hutchings cosmos - all the Albion Band stuff, solo etc. what to seek out/ avoid like some medieval plague he's probably written a song about.

And finally, what about those forgotten folk-rock bands, eg Mr Fox, The Trees? Can someone recommend what i should be looking for here?

pete s, Sunday, 7 December 2003 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I've got "The Garden Of Jane Delawney" by The Trees, which is ok but a bit sub fairports. The title track is gorgeous though, older readers may remember All About Eve's cover version from the 1980's.

A couple more -
Comus - First Utterance is truly, indescribably bizarre, like a traditional folk combo possessed by a coven of witches.
Paul Giovanni / Magnet - The Wickerman soundtrack album.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Sunday, 7 December 2003 03:32 (twenty-two years ago)

bonnie prince billy
Essential?

Oh my.

V

V (1411), Sunday, 7 December 2003 06:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The Beau Brummels- Triangle is great, if not essential. The Bonnie Prince Billy albums are uniformly fantastic (oh my!) as is Palace Music- Viva Last Blues, an album I'd have no reservations calling essential.

Mr. Minkus (tasty-vinyl), Sunday, 7 December 2003 09:18 (twenty-two years ago)

VASHTI BUNYAN just another diamond day (philips/spinney) is a MUST if you like nick drake-y folk!

Jens (brighter), Sunday, 7 December 2003 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't believe that you/we've come this far without mentioning:

the Flying Burrito Brothers
Gram Parsons solo

first two albums of each of those are available on a single cd, now that's value for money. i bet you'll love them chris.

willem (willem), Sunday, 7 December 2003 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

country-rock, shurely?

pete s, Sunday, 7 December 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

i've got Vashti Bunyan's Just another Diamond Day, and i recommend it too. To use an over-employed word on ILX, it's twee. In the best way. I'd imagine it's an ur-text for St Etienne.

pete s, Sunday, 7 December 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

i was delighted when i finally heard Vashti - it was everything i was hoping for. hey it might not be worth $1500 but i can see why it is to some.

the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 7 December 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

I'm going to assemble a CD of 70's folk/soft rock gems for my kid, so far I have the following:

moonshadow
time in a bottle
bad leroy brown
sundown

I love all this shit unrepentantly, someone recommend more.

akm, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 23:29 (seventeen years ago)

come to think of it sundown is a completely creepy and weird song to put on a cd for a kid although I never though it was odd when I was a child.

akm, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 23:35 (seventeen years ago)

I loved Arlo's City of New Orleans as a pre-rock kid

gabbneb, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 23:42 (seventeen years ago)

Harry Nilsson - Coconut
Joni - Morning Morgantown
James Taylor - Sweet Baby James?
is "Harvest" a little advanced?

gabbneb, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 00:31 (seventeen years ago)

kinda pre-folk/rock, but this guy might supply some ideas

gabbneb, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 00:48 (seventeen years ago)

Strawbs
Lindisfarne,,,,And Jack The Lad if you can track it down...
Natural Acoustic Band
Ronnie Lane`s solo stuff...

Just my very subjective favs...

Lincolnshire, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 08:14 (seventeen years ago)

Roy Harper: Stormcock

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

Horse With No Name

gabbneb, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 18:31 (seventeen years ago)

some Gordon Lightfoot is needed

Euler, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 18:46 (seventeen years ago)

ah fuck Sundown already listed

how about "Wildfire" by Michael Martin Murphey

Euler, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 18:47 (seventeen years ago)

Byrds' Tambourine Man

gabbneb, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 19:11 (seventeen years ago)


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