why I'll 'burn' when I'm dead, and why my friends all receive Maxell II's, goddammit

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i seriously got misty reading this

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 01:40 (twenty-three years ago)

gah, that's what i get for impatiently hitting "submit" twice

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 02:59 (twenty-three years ago)

It's a little precious, and he did spell Annabella Lwin's name wrong, but I share his sentiments.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 03:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Awww, that's a wonderful piece.

"It sounds like the singer is wearing little socks on his teeth." is the best line I've read in ages.

Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 03:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Who's nostalgic for cassettes? They were the least loved, the least fetishised, of all formats. Maybe the love, the fetishisation, is just beginnining now, as he suggests.

This idea that there was something cool about the mechanics of recording onto tape, that's fine. But it wasn't that cool. It just wasn't cool enough. And I'm into sentimentality.

Remember how it was when you had to think hard about what you wrote cos it was going onto clay tablets that were hard to come by? Remember when every sheet of paper was invaluable?

I get to write this kind of reply as often as I like. I can rewrite a million times. Also, if I choose not to post, it's not a big deal. I've wasted nothing.

I'm sad. But I understand that what I'm sad about isn't important.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 04:37 (twenty-three years ago)

That article is wack. Cassettes rock in 2002. You can buy them for fifty cents at used bookstores, and nobody breaks into your car to steal them. You can treat them like crap and they just play and play. If somebody likes what they hear, you can just say "take it, I have it on CD." Buy a crapload of them at yard sales and keep them in a box in your garage so when the RIAA tries to bust you DEA-style you can say "Fuck off! This is all stuff I have on cassette!" Oh yeah.

And mix CDs work just as well for flirting as mix tapes do. Making mix CDs is a lot more fun, too. Any potential mate who thinks otherwise isn't worth your time anyway.

Anna La Louge, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 06:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Who's nostalgic for cassettes?

I am. I've always liked them.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 06:35 (twenty-three years ago)

haven't made a tape for anyone in a long time, nor a mix cd for that matter. but what i used to like doing is start with one thing and make little incremental jumps, change things gradually and have the end of the tape something different entirely, like going from heavenly to mudhoney.

and on tapes you get to do this twice, twice the fun.

then there's the fun of getting the song to end a second before the tape tightens and the side ends.

that said, i always used to put everything on minidisc before putting it on tape, gives you more control... in fact i don't even use tape for videoing things anymore...

andy

koogs, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 10:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah, the same sort of nostalgia I got reading High Fidelity. Yeah, the mix-tape is dead, long live the mix-tape. It's been years since I made a mix-tape. OK, *A* year. I can remember exactly the last mix-tape that I made, standing in my godmum's living room, using their stereo, my CDs spread out all over the floor, and my younger god-siblings asking "what the hell are you doing?" cause they grew up in a godless time without the long-established art of making mixtapes for unrequited crushes.

I used to make "Hell Tapes" (part audio letter, part compilation tape, part early analogue bootleg) on an almost daily basis. Now I don't even own a cassette recorder. OK, I lie- I own a 4-track that eats cassettes and I have borrowed a handheld tape recorder for interviews. I think the death of mixtaping for me occured when my tape walkman died, to be replaced by a CD-walkman.

Today, I should go and buy a CD/cassette player, and make a mix tape for old times sake.

kate, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 10:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I didn't get a chance to read the whole article .. I got choked up when I read the first paragraph. All my tapes were recently stolen, along with my phone (which was broken anyway), three sweaters and two T-shirts.

Seriously .. I have just recently pulled all of my old tapes out of the closet & have been listening to them in the car... Old mix tapes without labels are fun - I've run across a lot of songs I haven't heard in 10 years.. I was thinking about giving them out after I listen to them one more time. Wouldn't that be fun? If ILMers traded old, unlabeled mix tapes?

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 12:25 (twenty-three years ago)

cassettes will only die when they are stopped from being manufactured. I also buy recs on vinyl (since they can be cheaper than CDs). i don't have a CD burner. nor am I getting one as I'm not interested in spending the money.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 13:10 (twenty-three years ago)

this has inspired me to make a mix tape for my wife. i haven't done that since we first met. I used to take little snippets of songs and include them at the end.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 13:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Every tape I made for about 5 years for people had either Dinosaur Jr's Throw Down (about 51 seconds) or Felt's "I Will Die With My Head In Flames" (1 min 25 secs) stuck on the end to fill up the gap.

tigerclawskank, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 15:01 (twenty-three years ago)

oh my Gawd!!!! i haven't thought about those pink and yellow TDKs for YONKS! they were the Cyndi Lauper of blank tapes!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 15:27 (twenty-three years ago)

aside from the "I remember that one and this one" aspect, I disliked that article pretty intensely. there's something so godawful precious/smug about it that is reminiscent of Hornby at his worst. I remember being fwded another piece by the same writer last year about how kids all download MP3s and the parents just don't understand and everyone's just as confused and in the same boat as everyone else, but we're all essentially good inside, la-dee-dah...it made me wanna RETCH

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 15:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Who's nostalgic for cassettes?
Me! Me! Me!

They were the least loved, the least fetishised, of all formats.
Huh? If you're talking about 8-tracks, this would be true. But if you're talking standard cassettes, then its not.

Maybe the love, the fetishisation, is just beginnining now, as he suggests.
I've been a mixtape fetishist for 2 decades.

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 15:53 (twenty-three years ago)

surely with one stereo you can only make an UNmixed tape?

i would like to get a cd burner but sadly i am currently trying to save up for japanese lessons instead.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

They were the least loved, the least fetishised, of all formats.

In the eighties there was a pretty strong casette culture. I read a book about it once, of that title, though I don't remember the author/editor. I think it was mostly comprised of old 'zine articles with a few of the author's own essays thrown in. Quite interesting--lots of talk about home-recorded music that often centered in on noise/industrial/sound collage--stuff I would love to hear.

And mix tapes, god, I love mix tapes. I don't have a CD player in my car and the radio is often pretty piss-poor, so they're what I listen to 93% of the time. Be they mix tapes from friends/girlfriends, live shows I've taped (or have just wound up with copies of) or tapes I've made myself from my favorite albums--there are at least two dozen of them sitting there in various places. Between the front seats, in the ash tray (unused), in the sill under the back windshield, on the floor in the back and front.. I've nearly gotten into accidents because I was too busy searching for that tape that had that one special song I wanted to hear RIGHT THEN.

Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 16:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I was too busy searching for that tape that had that one special song I wanted to hear RIGHT THEN.

That happens to you too, huh? :-)

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 16:20 (twenty-three years ago)

In the eighties there was a pretty strong casette culture.
Exactly. In fact, if it wasn't for the robust cassette culture, there would be no Metallica to interefere with the evolving CD-R culture.

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 16:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Mix tapes are in the dustbin of history in my corner of the world and I'm glad! CDRs are more fun and you don't have to worry about randomly fastforwarding the tape to find that one song, see. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 19:26 (twenty-three years ago)

But that's why they're good, Ned .. You're forced to listen to something that you may not like on first listen... then it grows on you, and before you know it, you're an unstoppable MBV fanatic!

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 20:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm glad it worked for you, see. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 20:49 (twenty-three years ago)


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