Music that's arrhythmic / rhythmically unpredictable AND melodic

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A favourite album for a long time has been Mani by Dorine Muraille. A decade on it still sounds weird and beautiful, but I've never found much else that combines melody and irregular rhythm in a similar way.

Any suggestions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzZ-21cwbz4

kronlake, Sunday, 30 October 2016 04:57 (eight years ago)

wheres that chief keef thread

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 30 October 2016 05:14 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fvYoh7R3sU

Tuomas, Sunday, 30 October 2016 09:54 (eight years ago)

There are several other Nobukazu Takemura tracks like that, sounds like that Dorine Muraille track was inspired by him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Q0r6E37dw

Tuomas, Sunday, 30 October 2016 10:09 (eight years ago)

quite a bit of lucky dragons stuff might scratch the itch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIG4Xe97DgA

ogmor, Sunday, 30 October 2016 11:30 (eight years ago)

That Muraille track sounds a little like the interludes on the first Savath + Savalas album, Folk Songs for Trains, Trees and Honey, one of my favourites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVw0kVw4vOw

MatthewK, Sunday, 30 October 2016 12:26 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OfoY3kiejE

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 30 October 2016 14:27 (eight years ago)

A lot of Jon Hassell's stuff falls in this category

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 30 October 2016 14:43 (eight years ago)

i like this siriusmo song but it sounds like the opposite of what's being asked for itt

qualx, Monday, 31 October 2016 02:24 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jLC3ru7p7M

massaman gai, Monday, 31 October 2016 12:57 (eight years ago)

Ace - thanks for these - the Lucky Dragons and Nobukazu Takemura particularly fit what I was thinking so far

kronlake, Monday, 31 October 2016 17:01 (eight years ago)

Remain in Light - Talking Heads
American Don - Don Caballero
Yesterday's Work - Ecstatic Sunshine

flappy bird, Monday, 31 October 2016 21:11 (eight years ago)

a lot of this music is straightforward rhythmically, like at a basic level, but active and cut-up/glitchy in that early '00s digital editing way. is that what you're looking for?

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2016 21:17 (eight years ago)

yeah, I get the musical aesthetic being described through example but most of these works are either variations over beats in a standard time signature

mh 😏, Monday, 31 October 2016 21:20 (eight years ago)

to be more specific: I'm after stuff that is melodic, but doesn't adhere to a regular time signature - or at least stuff where a time signature is difficult to discern

so the first Nobukazu Takemura is a particularly good example, and things like Remain in Light or the Savath + Savalas track don't really fit (tho I see that the latter resembles Dorine Muraille in terms of more general aesthetic)

another way of putting it: John Cage's Music of Changes is unpredictable in terms of both rhythm and melody; I'm after music that is similarly arryhthmic (tho perhaps in a different way), but still composed with melody in mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAjKD12RkEY

maybe there's a clearer way of explaining! - I'm not very good with music terminology

kronlake, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 00:53 (eight years ago)

now also thinking this probably raises of where my idea of "melodic" begins and ends - not sure how to define that

kronlake, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 01:14 (eight years ago)

*raises questions of where

kronlake, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 01:14 (eight years ago)

i took it to mean unsteady time/steady key, free jazz without the atonality

qualx, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 01:25 (eight years ago)

xp yes never considered the main track as a contender, just the cutup at the start (there are several such interludes on the album).
Of course there is always the track I expected to see when I clicked on the thread, which was explicitly designed as having a non-repetitive beat to circumvent 90s anti-rave legislation banning the playing of repetitive music in public at certain times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjEOuyfv_dg

MatthewK, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 01:44 (eight years ago)


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