If I ever release and album and Q review it, I would covet a 2-star review. Beats a 3-star any day of the week. Stupid bloody Dadrock Bible.
― Zanny Gognet (Zanny Gognet), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 16:34 (twenty-three years ago)
― Zanny Gognet (Zanny Gognet), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 16:37 (twenty-three years ago)
Kate should sue. Wry is the biggest insult in the English language. Wry means not funny. Wry means Stuart Maconie on I Love Ten Minutes Ago. Just edges out "irreverent" in the eviiity stakes! WE WERE NOT PLACED ON THIS MISBEGOTTEN PLANET TO BE WRY!!!!!!!!!!!
― Denise Lambert, Wednesday, 6 November 2002 16:38 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 6 November 2002 16:40 (twenty-three years ago)
I haven't even seen the review in question. I'm still not through crying over the drubbing we got in the Big Issue Wales.
I'm terrified I'm going to have to leave ILM now, because instead of being seen as just another poster who people can talk to/commiserate with, it's going to go back to one of those situations where people think they can kick me over it.
I don't think wry is an insult. I think wry is a compliment. I *like* being called wry. It's better than "sarcastic fucking bitch" idnit? And as for Grease, I knew we shouldn't have included pictures of our John Travolta lookalike drummer and me dressed up as Danny Zuko and Sandy! Curse our backfired plots...
(After years of *hating* Grease, I've grown to actually quite love it, cheesiness and musicals being two of my favourite things. One of the songs (Office Romance) was totally recorded with the Pink Ladies in mind. So this is really a diss that has backfired, isn't it? Or is it just a very clever way of comparing us to a *different* Kenickie...?)
I can't wait to read it. I hope it will be one of those reviews where I go "Yes! Yes! he get is! perfect! He loves it..." until I see the two stars and realise that everything he was saying was intended as an insult, but turned into a backhanded compliment.
― kate, Wednesday, 6 November 2002 17:06 (twenty-three years ago)
― kate, Wednesday, 6 November 2002 17:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 7 November 2002 14:47 (twenty-three years ago)
― Shaggy Lambert, Thursday, 7 November 2002 15:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― N0RM4N PH4Y, Thursday, 7 November 2002 19:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 7 November 2002 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dickon Edwards (Dickon Edwards), Thursday, 7 November 2002 20:33 (twenty-three years ago)
But then, I've never been able to decide which is better: a bad review, or no review at all? Better to be blanked or to be kicked?
I guess you have to see the motivations behind it: at least, with bad reviews, you can judge for yourself whether they dislike the record for being what it is, or for being what it's not. With the former, fine, it wasn't their thing. With the latter, it's difficult not to feel extreme frustration, and cry out "why do I bother?". Like someone hating you because they believe a false rumour about you.
Ultimately, it's a waste of energy to get worked up about what critics say. If it's any consolation, remember that most critics are joyless husks of no woman born.
― Dickon Edwards (Dickon Edwards), Thursday, 7 November 2002 20:44 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 November 2002 20:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:01 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:21 (twenty-three years ago)
Dickon, that's marvellous. Have you got secret cameras in my house?
― Charlie (Charlie), Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:42 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dickon Edwards (Dickon Edwards), Friday, 8 November 2002 00:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― keith (keithmcl), Friday, 8 November 2002 02:48 (twenty-three years ago)
― pulpo, Friday, 8 November 2002 10:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 8 November 2002 10:46 (twenty-three years ago)
Uncut is mad, it has pictures of Kate (presumably), and reviews by Marcello. can we stage a takeover?
― DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 8 November 2002 13:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 8 November 2002 14:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― Zanny Gognet (Zanny Gognet), Friday, 8 November 2002 14:38 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 8 November 2002 14:45 (twenty-three years ago)
yes, i finally got a copy of uncut this morning. it's true, we sent along a full colour glossy picture of ver band dressed up as the buffy gang, and this was good for an extra star. hooray! (I am buffy, jane is willow and matthew is xander, obviously)
i like the uncut review lots. come on, blondie and elastica sharing lippie in the grrrls room? i was born for this... (and wry to boot)
q is good for giving me crazy sex dreams about pillow butt trustafarian boarding school wankers who hang out on the lower east side pretending to be in the velvet underground (hello, pot, my name is kettle, you are looking dark today) so i suppose it still has some use. oh, and cute pictures of thom yorke on tippie-toes to boot.
the obvious complaint about the record continuing to be "it's not bland enough!" this is why we can never be indie-pop. sigh.
― kate, Friday, 8 November 2002 17:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 8 November 2002 20:06 (twenty-three years ago)
― kate, Friday, 8 November 2002 20:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 8 November 2002 20:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― kate, Saturday, 9 November 2002 12:21 (twenty-three years ago)
― holojames (holojames), Saturday, 16 October 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)