Giorgio Moroder: Search & Destroy

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I just got a Giorgio LP from Oxfam: 'Knights in White Satin'. On first listen it sounds pretty darned awful actually. Horrendous cover aswell. Sooo, apart from the obviously great Donna Summer stuff, has he done much else worth checking out?

Johnathan, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

SEARCH: The great soundtrack to "Midnight Express," everything he did with Donna Summer.

DESTROY: The crap he did for "Flashdance"

alex in nyc, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Search: "Down Deep Inside"

Destroy: "Take My Breath Away"

Robin Carmody, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

or at least I *think* he co-wrote it ...

Actually, I don't hate it anything like as much as I hate "Together In Electric Dreams", which is what I meant to say to destroy.

Robin Carmody, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Aw, "Together in Electric Dreams" is pretty nice, actually. I've heard far worse from the era. Now "Take My Breath Away," that's another story.

Fun fact -- at a *very* strange supposedly acoustic benefit multiact show in 1992, Terri Nunn did an acoustic version of "Take My Breath Away" to mass indifference. The acoustic version of "Sex (I'm A...)" was equally odd. Not as odd as seeing Ogre do an acoustic take on "Testure," though.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Get his From Here to Eternity album, it's incredible. Better than almost everything he did for Donna Summer. E=MC^2 doesn't compare, but it's not bad at all. I never liked the Midnight Express soundtrack very much. Not enough disco magic.

Look for the for album he made with Sparks, the one with Beat the Clock.

As far as loose songs go, "Get on the Funk Train" is good, as is "I Wanna Funk You Tonight."

Chris H., Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

_Number One In Heaven_, of course, awesome.

Robin Carmody, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Lord, how did I forget the Sparks album? Yes, godlike.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My memories of 'Together in Electric Dreams' are far better than the song. I was so happy when bought it last week, but that stopped when I played it, like so many things from the mid-eighties, they only sound good in my imagination.

K-reg, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Get his great pre-Donna Summer album Son Of My Father, if you can find it. It's basically fun synth-heavy European bubblegum, and in 1972 too. Plus DJ Shadow took the organ in "Organ Donor" from "Tears" off that album.

Patrick, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

... and Chicory Tip's version of "Son Of My Father" brought the synth to the UK number one spot at a time (early '72, I think) when it was only just making an impact within the Radiophonic Workshop ...

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Amazing! I don't think I've even thought of that song ("Son Of My Father") since it was a hit, and I never knew the Moroder connection. Am I wrong in thinking Moroder also did some painfully embarrassing work with Jon Anderson, or was that Yanni? (Anderson+Moroder=Yanni-vocals)

X. Y. Zedd, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nah, you're thinking of Vangelis. And yes, *painfully* embarrassing.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Is this where I get to ask about Aphrodite's Child? The group Vangelis was in with Demis Roussos? (Is that right? Some subsequently famous Greek singer, anyway... )

I remember hearing their LP 666 at school (c.1976): very clear memory paints this as a double LP filled entirely with Roussos (if him) mimicking an orgasmic woman – which at the time I thought mighty fine and avant-garde (of course very clear memory may be mistaken, or at least exaggerating). I heard it the same day I first heard Patti's Horses, and actually kind of always associate them.

mark s, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, Vangelis and Demis Roussos were indeed both in Aphrodite's Child. All I know from Roussos is that one record that my parents have, which is schlocky big-voiced european easy-listening, and it's weird to think that the same guy used to be in a bizarro prog-rock band.

Patrick, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Robin,

You know, for some crazy reason, I'm not sure if I've ever asked you this about the Radiophonic Workshop: by 1972, were they were using true synths -- Moogs, Arps, Buchlas, etc. -- or tweaked organs (as with A Rainbow in Curved Air or Electronic Meditation) or some other kind of electric tomfoolery? I've always wanted to know. The main reason I never put Radiophonic on my synth mix tape was I couldn't find any confirmation that they did.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually his remix of Disco Science on the Mirwais lp is awesome last track on the vinyl!!They are old friends so Moroder did it as a favour and it is sublime...

cockney red, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Search: the usual classic stuff with Donna Summer (don't forget the oft-forgotten 'My Love' with proto-acid ending), the title track of Midnight Express, the soundtrack of Scarface (maybe).

Destroy: Knight in White Satin *is* awful, what with that Moody Blues disco cover. And don't forget the Metropolis soundtrack (a total disgrace).

Omar, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Search: side b of 'Knights In White Satin', especially the magnificently sleazy 'Sooner Or Later'; The proto French house of 'E=MC2', esp the continuous side 1 and 'I Wanna Rock You' on side 2.

Destroy: There are some really bad later 80s 12"s which I've mercifully forgotten the name of.

Ben Butler, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mike,

I actually know a lot less about the *type* of synths used by the Radiophonic Workshop than someone like me might be expected to. However the first RW tracks I've heard using genuine synths (apologies for not knowing a better term), as opposed to creating the sound effects as a one-off for each track, date from 1972 (possibly late '71 or early '72, I don't know). Certainly there's a stark contrast between the '71 LP _BBC Radiophonic Music_ (all done through the earlier techniques) and the '73 LP _The Fourth Dimension_ (all synth-based, and sonically redolent in its weaker moments of Wakeman or Oldfield to whose fans it was possibly marketed at the time as an audiophile's record, though it's far better than that might suggest).

http://www.mb21.co.uk/ether.net/radiophonics has a lot more technical stuff on this. The stuff on _The Fourth Dimension_ might be of particular value to you because it definitely names the synths Paddy Kingsland used for that record; I know they were both British-made.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Guesswork (but based on the research I did for that Wire piece nearly (ulp) ten years ago): they worked from BBC boffindom to build their own equipment throughout the 60s and early 70s (inc. a very early and unmarketed version of voltage-controlled pitch, as per Moog subsequently), and went on with this right up to when synth-tech started coming right down in price = mid-late 70s. Then probably Korgs et al, same as all the little Daniel Millers out in the punky world! Maybe a VCS3 before this? But I doubt it.

They got a Fairlight in the early 80s, but that's a sampling thing.

mark s, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So that was you, Mark ...

What you say does sort-of confirm the view that the innovation drained out of the Workshop at the time when cheap, off-the-shelf synths became readily available and concurrently seeped through into chartpop (I'd rather listen to OMD's "Souvenir" than any of the similar-sounding Peter Howell tracks from '81). The other great falling-off moment was the RW's appropriation of concept albums ("Through A Glass Darkly") and rock operas ("Rockoco") at the time when Genesis were going AOR and Mike Oldfield going disco; I wonder whether it occured to them that they'd gone as proggish as they ever needed to go on "The Fourth Dimension", just about got away with it, and done it when synth-prog was The Thing.

A great piece of writing, incidentally. Back in '87 / '88 I *was* one of those seven-year-old kids singing along to Roger Limb's songs for Look and Read. Suffice it to say, though, that I've evolved creatively in Radiophonic terms (though moved backwards chronologically) since.

Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
I just got the Midnight Express soundtrack used on vinyl and am listening to it right now. So far it's great!

Sean (Sean), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)

"Chase" fucking KILLS!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 18 May 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

a while back, i listened to "Chase" every day straight for a month

JasonD (JasonD), Sunday, 18 May 2003 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

there's also a song on that soundtrack that Outkast sampled for Aquemeni.

i was watching Sybil today, the one where Gidget has 72 different personalities, and her clown faced guitar playing boyfriend in the movie was the main star in Midnight Express.

JasonD (JasonD), Sunday, 18 May 2003 01:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Search: "Call Me"
Destroy: the fact that nobody on this thread has even mentioned it

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 18 May 2003 04:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Search "Utopia - Me Giorgio"!

And Sparks' Terminal Jive.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 May 2003 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I've got to get that From Here to Eternity album. I'm listening to Donna Summer's "The Wanderer" now, and it's like they decided to take a completely different direction aftoer the amazing "Bad Girls" lp; it's a major step away from the electronic disco they perfected and towards a more pop sound. It's not bad, but when I reach for Summer/Moroder, electronic disco is what I'm looking for.

Sean (Sean), Sunday, 18 May 2003 05:02 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all about the Scarface soundtrack.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 19 May 2003 00:45 (twenty-two years ago)

If you like Nina Hagen, Moroder produced 'Fearless'. I love that album to bits. the breakdown in the middle of 'Zarah' before she pulls herself together for the diva ending, it's the transcendent music.

jleideck, Monday, 19 May 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I really like the first half of "From Here To Eternity". I'm always expecting to enjoy his soundtrack work and I never do.

Millar (Millar), Monday, 19 May 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
what's the Ameican Gigolo sdtk like?

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

i recently picked up Giorgio & Chris lp. it's kinda fun, pretty much a bit of moroder synths mixed with a real bubblegum disco (think Abba) feel. fun record, not amazing, but fun.

http://www.retrocrush.com/archive/records2/giorgioandchris.jpg

Hella Fitzgerald (JasonD), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

i don't know why everybody is hating on 'knights in white satin'... that's one of the best disco songs EVER.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i don't hate it

Hella Fitzgerald (JasonD), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

I second "From Here to Eternity"- Lost Angeles and Utopia are great.

David Bachyrycz, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 00:23 (twenty years ago)

Not to mention "faster than the speed of love" which makes me want to marry a replicant and away to the countryside one step ahead of that creepy origami folding detective.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

Not nearly enough love for Nina Hagen's "Zarah, Ich Weiss Es Wird Einmal Ein Wunder Gescheh'n"...

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)

I think the guy has a pretty damn great track record up to and including his collaboration with Phil Oakey. It starts to slide after that.

Other unnamed Moroder brilliance:

Suzi Lane "Harmony"
Irene Cara "Breakdance", "Romance '83"

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)

oh duh..

Japan "Life In Tokyo", "European Son"

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:34 (twenty years ago)

S: battlestar galactica LP w' evolution on the other side...

D: that blondie mix he did for there new single "good boys"

danny boy (danny boy), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

MUNICH MACHINE - "In Love With Love"

mnm, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

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mnm, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

I Feel Love (along with Visage's Fade to Grey and one or two others) is the template for almost everything that's great about early 90's trance; so search at all peril.

But it looks like I'll be alone in destroying E=MC2, which I find incredibly limp, flat and dull.

Stephen Stockwell (Stephen Stockwell), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

and now i need you is everything thats great about 00s trance.

:| (....), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Where is the love for "First-hand Experience of Second-hand Love"? Unmentioned on this thread and in dleone's review of From Here To Eternity :(

W i l l (common_person), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

Harmony by Suzi Lane is damn near perfection. And the Munich Machine stuff should be remastered and rereleased NOW!

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

ten months pass...
"What A Night" on E=MC2 is (ahem) hott stuff — made for some fine New Years DJ fodder as well...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:41 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

i dont get einzelgänger u_u

, Saturday, 8 September 2007 10:46 (eighteen years ago)

i can't believe there isn't some sort of compilation of giorgio moroder productions beyond the donna summer and the solo stuff. maybe it exists? a fan mix? anything?

akaky akakievich, Saturday, 27 February 2010 01:43 (fifteen years ago)

fair enough...

http://ugghnicewatch.com/2010/02/26/download-the-giorgio-moroder-collection/

akaky akakievich, Saturday, 27 February 2010 08:40 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7r6XXI_oX0

I-95 Phuck Phace (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 10:44 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

!

http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/giorgio-moroder-posts-rarities-soundcloud/

Two weeks ago, Giorgio Moroder, one of the great early pioneers of electronic music and the man who did the score for movies like Scarface and Midnight Express, decided to set up a SoundCloud. He’s decided to use that SoundCloud to post rarities and remixes, which is unbelievably exciting.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 October 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

download limit reached on almost all of them :-(

max, Friday, 19 October 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

At least you can stream 'em.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 October 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

If you don't mind 128kbps you can download the stream pretty east with a javascript bookmarklet:

See here: https://gist.github.com/1980967

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 19 October 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

pretty *easy*

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 19 October 2012 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

There's another soundcloud account he's posting to. http://soundcloud.com/giorgiomoroder2

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 19 October 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)

I'm about 3 minutes in to the 'Underwater Impressions' album and it's super pretty, ambient/new age fluff. Not too dissimilar to some of Vangelis's 80s work.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 19 October 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

Other Artists I like:
Donna Summer
Freddie Mercury
Paul Engemann
Blondie
Bonnie Tyler
Jon Anderson
Pat Benatar
Adam Ant
David Guetta
Kelly Rowland
Daft Punk
Jay-Z

max, Friday, 19 October 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

13 minutes in and calling it fluff upthread is a bit harsh. This is really great, definite 'Blade Runner' vibe from it.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 19 October 2012 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't realise it was a soundtrack to a Leni Riefenstahl movie.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 19 October 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)

so glad to find this!

let's have sex and then throw pottery (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 20 October 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

I am all about this

http://www.repertoirerecords.com/?p=7361

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 March 2013 17:07 (twelve years ago)

playing a dj set in nyc in a few months

the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 March 2013 17:20 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjGqYzAdWO4

max, Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:15 (twelve years ago)

To better adapt to the demands of today's EDM culture, Moroder is collaborating with some of its biggest names-including Avicii, who gave him some pointers during a recent songwriting session.

What the fuck is this.

"Oh hi old dude, yeah it's called dance music. I know you're some composer of weird experimental shit but if you want to make the charts you have to really pay attention to your audience."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:21 (twelve years ago)

avicii should have to call moroder "m'lord" and avert his eyes whenever giorgio walks in the room

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:42 (twelve years ago)

And MORODER said Where Is Your STACHE and the avicii said 'lo i have shaved it off for it is of an earlier time
And this displeased the MORODER mightily
MORODER said If You Care So Much For Time, Look to Your Machines
And avicii discovered his Serato no longer kept time and he soon was left to survive on bat mitzvahs and frat parties
So it is writ by MORODER: Do Not Discard Your STACHE for STACHE Shall Sustain Your Time

brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:45 (twelve years ago)

three weeks pass...

DJ Set tonight was fairly epic and amazing; I've never heard those songs on a mammoth sound system before. He hit pretty much every high note. Also: i have tinnitus in my left ear fairly bad.

klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 06:15 (twelve years ago)

"To better adapt to the demands of today's EDM culture..."

<SNIP>

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 12:32 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

New work out shortly:
http://thecreatorsproject.vice.com/blog/premiere-giorgio-moroder-74-is-the-new-24

So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 November 2014 21:08 (eleven years ago)

"Announced today, the album is set to drop in spring 2015 on Sony/RCA and features a new batch of notable collaborators including Britney Spears, Sia, Kylie Minogue, Charli XCX, and more. Alongside the album announcement comes a new video for the track "74 is the New 24," premiering exclusively on The Creators Project. "

So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 November 2014 21:08 (eleven years ago)

that is an awesome title

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Monday, 17 November 2014 21:35 (eleven years ago)

two weeks pass...

is there a decent, comprehensive collection of Moroder's disco productions

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:18 (eleven years ago)

Whatever the new GM track was, it was awful.

Eric H., Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:22 (eleven years ago)

Yes, but parts of it were excellent.

everything, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:00 (eleven years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtAi9BaLmq0

Ottbot jr (NickB), Monday, 19 January 2015 11:17 (ten years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM2Uz8UsWdM

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 19 January 2015 13:21 (ten years ago)

three months pass...

His cover of Tom's Diner featuring Britney Spears is up in full on Spin! http://www.spin.com/2015/04/britney-spears-toms-diner-giorgio-moroder-susanne-vega-song-remake/
(right click the picture of Britney and press play if you can't see the link)
I think it's fantastic.

Leonard Pine, Friday, 24 April 2015 18:25 (ten years ago)

this is definitively bizarre

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 April 2015 18:39 (ten years ago)

D:

katherine, Friday, 24 April 2015 19:37 (ten years ago)

meanwhile suzanne vega released an album last year

katherine, Friday, 24 April 2015 19:38 (ten years ago)

Seem to be different versions of this, with different speeds. I only like the one with the fastest BPM. Not sure how official that mix is though.

Jeff W, Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:57 (ten years ago)

So what does ILM think of the Sia track? I wasn't too impressed at first but I'm warming up to it. The guitar is undeniable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNYFpTLazvA

daavid, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:06 (ten years ago)

Whisper intro is p annoying, also in general do not like Sia's voice but can ofc appreciate that it's distinctive, throwback disco is cool, the guitar part sounds like get lucky, the chorus is great and I enjoy it more because Sia does less of the screeky-door-voice thing, agree that this song gets better w more listens.

Still i don't think it's fair if this track blows up and the Kylie track doesn't it's so good and he really nails Kylie's aesthetic/style imo (whereas I don't see what the cool disco throwback has to do w Sia)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gZ-11-kOSQ

Probably the Sia one seems like a more likely summer hit.

niels, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:20 (ten years ago)

The Sia song is good, kind of impossibly sweet in a way that could probably be pretty annoying if you weren't in the mood for it though. Wonder if the whispery bits isn't a video thing, can't remember them from the audio only version. Agree it's not as good as the Kylie offering, but the Moroder album is shaping up to be one of my favourites this year.

Leonard Pine, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:25 (ten years ago)

The Charli XCX collab leaked a few days ago, is now officially up on Spotify. SONG OF THE SUMMER.

Leonard Pine, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 18:37 (ten years ago)

these songs are all awful

example (crüt), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 18:42 (ten years ago)

Will Chic or Giorgio Moroder have the summer album of 2015?

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 18:50 (ten years ago)

i like the charli song a lot! the mikky ekko song is garrrrrbaaaage

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 18:56 (ten years ago)

both sides of the chic single were awesome, but this new giorgio stuff is dire.

example (crüt), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 19:07 (ten years ago)

four years pass...

I just discovered the Cat People ost...I need more like this asap!! What else should I listen to? The Near Dark ost (Tangerine Dream) is another favorite. I vaguely remember being into the Thief ost too but it's not streaming on spotify sadly.

musically, Thursday, 12 December 2019 17:34 (six years ago)

where is the damn Einzelgänger reissue?!?!

sleeve, Thursday, 12 December 2019 18:21 (six years ago)

i swear i saw it in a store a few weeks ago, think it's a boot though

brimstead, Thursday, 12 December 2019 19:56 (six years ago)

yeah that's unofficial, the cover is sooo pixelated and the sound sux, I returned one cuz I bought it thinking it was the legit reissue that I heard about

sleeve, Thursday, 12 December 2019 21:00 (six years ago)

Such a great OST. I sought it out years ago after sourcing the sample used by El-P in Cannibal Ox's Iron Galaxy. Wish I had found the vinyl version haha I'd be a hundredaire

octobeard, Thursday, 12 December 2019 23:27 (six years ago)

two years pass...

Using falsetto on every song on "E=MC²" was not one of his better decisions.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 December 2021 19:20 (four years ago)

But having the vocoder read the credits def. was.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 17 December 2021 04:18 (four years ago)


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