― nickalicious, Thursday, 7 November 2002 19:27 (twenty-three years ago)
BEST: "Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy" is my favorite Eno record. Darker then the first record but not as sleep inducing as his latter more ambient work. There are "songs" on this record as well as the sonic textures Eno is known for. It works on two levels, you can just "play" it or you can really "listen" to it and enjoy it equally. Still don't know what this record has to do with Chinese spies though...
WORST: "The Joshua Tree" by U2. The production seems out of place. U2 is a band ill suited for the moody and bleak textures on this record. It sounds empty, and not in a good way.
Check out that Eno/Cluster collaboration. Eno's work with Harmonia is excellent too.
― Juan, Thursday, 7 November 2002 19:50 (twenty-three years ago)
I used to define the music I liked by "anything Eno produced"but grown out of that a bit
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― JasonD, Thursday, 7 November 2002 20:47 (twenty-three years ago)
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― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 7 November 2002 20:55 (twenty-three years ago)
I listened to James' Wah Wah! a couple times back when I was in high school and thought it was very very good, I'd probably do well trying to find that.
I actually had no idea Eno produced Joshua Tree, which I kinda like. Not alot, but enough that I don't regard it with an "eh", as opposed to many of U2's other albums.
I'll have to check out this Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy thing, though, I wasn't aware he had any solo albums...I bet I'll like it, cause me likey the weirdnessesses. :D
― nickalicious, Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:05 (twenty-three years ago)
Destroy: Am I allowed to destroy the same album twice in one week? If so, Jane Siberry's 'When I Was a Boy' gets it. Plus anything where Daniel Lanois receives credit for "treatments".
― Curt (cgould), Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:05 (twenty-three years ago)
D: Although it's not _horrible_, just the fact that he co-produced the Dune soundtrack with Toto is questionable. Plus the work with U2, Zooropa comes to mind especially.
― Aaron W, Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:17 (twenty-three years ago)
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― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:23 (twenty-three years ago)
Search pretty much everything else.
TMFTMLhttp://intonation.blogspot.com
― TMFTML (TMFTML), Thursday, 7 November 2002 22:29 (twenty-three years ago)
NO NEW YORK.
That album still totally gets me every time. Why do people always forget that Eno produced it?
Of his own records, I was just listening to Before & After Science yesterday, and marveling at it...
― Douglas, Thursday, 7 November 2002 22:40 (twenty-three years ago)
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― Aaron W, Thursday, 7 November 2002 23:01 (twenty-three years ago)
Of his own records, I was just listening to Before & After Science yesterday, and marveling at it... -- Douglas
Ohh. Forgot that one. Still stands as the single greatest testament of what No Wave was about. Definitely Search that one out.I spent four years looking for that record, I don't regret it.
― Juan (Juan), Thursday, 7 November 2002 23:55 (twenty-three years ago)
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― george gosset (gegoss), Friday, 8 November 2002 07:48 (twenty-three years ago)
I actually ended up getting into loads of different music as a youngster purely because it was produced by Eno (and similarly, got into Eno himself because of the Bowie stuff). So I bought the Eno-produced Talking Heads albums before any of their other stuff.
And I wouldn't have got into Devo, Robert Wyatt or Jon Hassell without him.
― James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 8 November 2002 17:42 (twenty-three years ago)
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― nickn (nickn), Saturday, 9 November 2002 01:11 (twenty-three years ago)
eno's personal albums: while i love the concept of ambient, i find the idea more entertaining than most of its realizations. eno's early stuff: warm jets, tiger mountain, before and after science, another green world are all incredible. i think green world stands in my mind as what i feel to be the most conceptually cohesive of the four. (but then, it might be worth noting that it was the first one that i heard straight through without having to flip the tape over.
of his later personal work, i think my favorites are music for airports and nerve net. (speaking of 'dated' his use of the dx7 on nerve net is pretty clever. i can't seem to get awesome sounds like that out of mine)
eno's collaborations / productions
my life in the bush of ghosts is really awesome. some just amazing stuff that essentially evolved from him and byrne sitting around recording stuff off the radio in new york.
his work with u2 moved them from the realm of musicians to artists, almost by association. a lot of people think his approaches were really destructive, for instance most of the really poorly thought out tracks on unforgettable fire were his 'fault' although i think some of them work quite nicely.
bowie: i believe that the latter half of the berlin trilogy was essentially co-produced by eno, although the liner notes all credit bowie-visconti. i seem to recall bowie and eno saying somewhere that his influence gradually became stronger as time went on. in my opinion, the berlin years stand out as bowie's most interesting.
of course eno seems to have worked with everybody and their brother, quite literally, so i can't cover all his collaborations for quality, but i think that many have developed a sort of faith in eno (certainly i have) and taken his influence as an excuse for being introduced to a lot of occasionally interesting new artists. when i say a faith in eno, i don't mean that i think all of his methods are brilliant, (though some weirdos do) but a faith that he'll consistantly attempt to do things that he finds interesting and new, rather than getting bogged down in doing exactly the same thing. (speaking of, does anybody think that bowie's new album sound pretty much like visconti all over again? and though i really like a lot of the stuff he's done, i associate steve lillywhite with a very particular type of sound.)
blah blah blah very tired. so you want get a qualitative evaluation on individual albums i'm afraid i'm flaking out, but in general, i recommend at least considering albums that eno produces, and then, if you hate them, consider them once more. but that's probably as far as i'd go.
blah, just me rambling.
― daniel e mcanulty (mcanulty), Sunday, 10 November 2002 10:22 (twenty-three years ago)
that's a stupid question. a more proper question is 'has eno let u2 put any of their songs on the albums that he produced' which is actually yes, he has. he got a lot of criticism on unforgettable fire, i think, because of his extremely direct approach, he had a very heavy handed influence. (although he brought dan lanois along just so he wouldn't put out a dud album. eno got booted from EG records at some point because none of his recordings sold at all and he had no confidence that he could put out a very commercial album. bono brought eno out of 'retirement' actually, in order to work with them) joshua tree, though some people don't like it, is actually u2's most popular album of all time, and i think is a great example of eno being very influential while still bringing out and condensing the sound and flavor of a band onto a record. i think their recent work without him, pop, was one of the flattest most uninteresting albums i've ever heard from them. (though i've not listened to their new one)
Passengers was a really great album, actually, fusing the personal interests of lots of different members of the u2 ensemble and really putting out something different and fresh. the fake movies are hilarious too, so believable.
and 'my life', amigo, was put out in 1979. before u2 even issued their first album. maybe it's just be, but i find the notion of 'paying off' the producer by putting out an album ~15 years after you've started working with him really laughable.
incidentally, speaking of fripp-eno, i recently had the pleasure of somebody stealing my copy of fripp-eno's (no pussyfooting). i hope they like it. (on a tangential note, my discman also got stolen, containing a copy of some tuva throat singing. i bet they'll dig that)
― daniel e mcanulty (mcanulty), Sunday, 10 November 2002 10:41 (twenty-three years ago)
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― nickalicious listens to Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy all the fucking time n, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)
The Robert Calvert album ("Lucky Leif and the Longships") is kind of essential. At times it sounds exactly like an Eno album from the same time, including the vocals (which is interesting) except for the insane concept, weird Beach Boys homage, etc. I'm completely baffled as to why it doesn't have a higher profile here. 1975, Eno producing, and it's really something else. Posting one of the less-weird, more Eno-esque tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiuGg3FEDVg
― dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:07 (nine years ago)
Must've not appeared on our Discover Weekly Spotify playlists
― lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:36 (nine years ago)
it's definitely an odd one from those early prolific days, along with the Lady June album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u237XYoISc&index=2&list=PLjc8Jcsf6q4l18vjimBBpRKOM-UMZ959c
Other little discussed detours and collaborations include his '70s stuff with Robert Wyatt, an appearance with Camel on Elke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERTVZx7M3g4
Plus, in the '80s, this ace Roxy Music rip-off:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekufPK0pGvE
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 May 2016 19:01 (nine years ago)
Apparently the Robert Calvert CD version of Leif is another one of those weird "CD very different from vinyl but we don't want to talk about it" albums. I have an Anthony Mo(o)re album with similar issues. Just ordered a vinyl copy of Leif from Germany to find out what's up. A few tracks are on youtube ripped from vinyl, and yeah, pretty noticeably different. So basically, it's not on Spotify or Tidal, and even if you order a CD copy, you're getting something different from the original. Written out of history, etc.
― dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 20:01 (nine years ago)
Tuomas, in all seriousness the singer from Roxy Music is Bryan Ferry. Brian Eno started out in the band and played on their first few records before becoming famous for everything else he did.
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i.e. producing "Lucky Leif and the Longships" by Bob Calvert
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― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 June 2016 09:50 (nine years ago)
Listening to 801 Live after a few beers tonight, and damn this record is good. One of my most played records when it was new, great to revisit.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 5 February 2021 05:38 (five years ago)
It's a good mix of Eno's pop/glam sensibilities (just before he abandoned them) and the prog/fusion elements from Manzanera/Quiet Sun, it never goes too far in either direction.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 5 February 2021 16:23 (five years ago)