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What Eno-produced stuff would you consider "da bomb", and what stuff has he produced that you would consider "wack"?

nickalicious, Thursday, 7 November 2002 19:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Do Eno's own records count? If so...

BEST: "Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy" is my favorite Eno record. Darker then the first record but not as sleep inducing as his latter more ambient work. There are "songs" on this record as well as the sonic textures Eno is known for. It works on two levels, you can just "play" it or you can really "listen" to it and enjoy it equally. Still don't know what this record has to do with Chinese spies though...

WORST: "The Joshua Tree" by U2. The production seems out of place. U2 is a band ill suited for the moody and bleak textures on this record. It sounds empty, and not in a good way.

Check out that Eno/Cluster collaboration. Eno's work with Harmonia is excellent too.

Juan, Thursday, 7 November 2002 19:50 (twenty-three years ago)

*Outside*, Souvlaki, and everything else he produced.

I used to define the music I liked by "anything Eno produced"
but grown out of that a bit

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 7 November 2002 20:14 (twenty-three years ago)

search: Talking Heads "remain in light", "more songs about buildings and food", "fear of music"
David Byrne / Brian Eno "my life in the bush of ghosts"
David Bowie "low", "heroes", "lodger"

JasonD, Thursday, 7 November 2002 20:47 (twenty-three years ago)

i like achtung baby. i won't apologize.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 7 November 2002 20:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Both James' Laid and Wah Wah! are terrif.

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 7 November 2002 20:49 (twenty-three years ago)

laid is magical. i wonder how many frat kidz bought the album for the single "laid" and then gave up on their loutish ways to dress in black and listen to the blue nile?

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 7 November 2002 20:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm actually already a fanatical-Talking Heads/Eno fan, the albums they did together are among my all-time favorites. I haven't yet heard this My Life in the Bush of Ghosts yet, though.

I listened to James' Wah Wah! a couple times back when I was in high school and thought it was very very good, I'd probably do well trying to find that.

I actually had no idea Eno produced Joshua Tree, which I kinda like. Not alot, but enough that I don't regard it with an "eh", as opposed to many of U2's other albums.

I'll have to check out this Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy thing, though, I wasn't aware he had any solo albums...I bet I'll like it, cause me likey the weirdnessesses. :D

nickalicious, Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Search: Low-Heroes-Lodger, More Songs-Fear-Remain in Light, *yawn* Devo's 1st, Ultravox's 1st, Unforgettable Fire (the only U2 album I like), anything by Eno himself or with Cluster, Harmonia, Budd.

Destroy: Am I allowed to destroy the same album twice in one week? If so, Jane Siberry's 'When I Was a Boy' gets it. Plus anything where Daniel Lanois receives credit for "treatments".

Curt (cgould), Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:05 (twenty-three years ago)

S: Guess they've all been mentioned... ditto the Cluster/Eno, Life in the Bush of Ghosts, James, Bowie, etc. etc.

D: Although it's not _horrible_, just the fact that he co-produced the Dune soundtrack with Toto is questionable. Plus the work with U2, Zooropa comes to mind especially.

Aaron W, Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh yeah, and also search the Eno/Cale "Wrong Way Up." Great pop album from around 1990 that I'm pretty sure is OOP.

Aaron W, Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:22 (twenty-three years ago)

zooropa is a mediocre album, but if we all put our anti-U2 sentiments aside, the guitar sound on "Lemon" is great.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 7 November 2002 21:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Destroy that last James record. (Not "Millionaires," the one after it). Utter crap.

Search pretty much everything else.

TMFTML
http://intonation.blogspot.com

TMFTML (TMFTML), Thursday, 7 November 2002 22:29 (twenty-three years ago)

NO NEW YORK.

NO NEW YORK.

NO NEW YORK.

That album still totally gets me every time. Why do people always forget that Eno produced it?

Of his own records, I was just listening to Before & After Science yesterday, and marveling at it...

Douglas, Thursday, 7 November 2002 22:40 (twenty-three years ago)

"Wrong Way Up" has to be in the top five worst produced records of all time. It's so dated it is embarrassing. What's worse is that the songwriting is quite excellent.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 7 November 2002 22:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyone have any idea why No New York hasn't been reissued?? I've often wondered this... aloud sometimes. Seems like now would be a good time, eh?

Aaron W, Thursday, 7 November 2002 23:01 (twenty-three years ago)

NO NEW YORK.
NO NEW YORK.

NO NEW YORK.

That album still totally gets me every time. Why do people always forget that Eno produced it?

Of his own records, I was just listening to Before & After Science yesterday, and marveling at it...
-- Douglas

Ohh. Forgot that one. Still stands as the single greatest testament of what No Wave was about. Definitely Search that one out.
I spent four years looking for that record, I don't regret it.

Juan (Juan), Thursday, 7 November 2002 23:55 (twenty-three years ago)

GAHHH!! Low, Lodger and Heroes are produced by Tony Visconti! Look at the goddamn credits on the record already.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 7 November 2002 23:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Fine, so they were. Well done, Tony.

Curt (cgould), Friday, 8 November 2002 03:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Ha ha ha, I had No New York on vinyl and tossed it out. It's awful. No, really. Of course, I wish I still had it so I could claim that hip cache I crave...

Sean (Sean), Friday, 8 November 2002 04:09 (twenty-three years ago)

nothing he produced after the devo album is all that good or if it is it's not because of him. that devo album is GOOD tho

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Friday, 8 November 2002 04:25 (twenty-three years ago)

it has the greatest drum sound...close-mic drum sound effectively killed rock drumming but so what cause even if post punk rock had had decent drum sounds it still wouldve sucked anyway...anyway on that 1st Devo album, well yeah i know it's a lot about 'cause the devo drummer's great anyway but yeah if brian eno is so great how come he couldn't make U2's drums sound like that . sound = close miked, i.e. each drum recorded 'clinically', resonances added @ mixing desk level, he records rock drumming that actually rocks like this & gets the optimum out of both things...sorry i don't wanna be all drum nerd 'cause there's lots of other reasons the devo album is so great than just that Eno got a good drum sound but yeah if he's so great why don't U2 have @ least a good drum sound

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Friday, 8 November 2002 04:46 (twenty-three years ago)

If you have some golden hours in your life, go into a jungle and play with sombre reptiles. Or, better, read every one of the B. Eno interviews on this page.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 8 November 2002 05:58 (twenty-three years ago)

i think wrong way up is a dud, but generally i like his collaborations with other people on the other peoples' albums -- the fripp/eno albums for instance, the eno vocals on remain in light, those little eno bits that aren't really the whole album, more the inspired spots on such'n'such "superstar" records
eg "Miss Shapiro" on the Manzanera solo album, his song on Wyatt's Shleep
maybe his contribution to roxys For Your Pleasure is immeasurable -- certainly the bowie Berlin trio wouldn't be the way they are without "Eno: eno" or some such thing in the credits, whomever "produced" -- and i think he should have got writing credits for both the roxy and bowie stuff since his contribution while deliberately presented as this weird presence still makes those records sound relatively relevant even these days
have U2 let him put any of his songs on their albums (i'm not a fan) or did they relegate him to that "passengers" thing and pay him off that way ? or was my life in the bush of ghosts his way of doing things anyway, providing that deserved arms-length artistic difference ?
i like the tone of this thread, as though these bands/stars will be dead and buried while people will still be celebrating the contribution of eno to 20th century music -- still, no excuse for carrying u2 from messy nationalistic yet conveniently apolitical fake-agit-pop punk leftovers to 'well intentioned artfully anthemic world-class' void-fill

george gosset (gegoss), Friday, 8 November 2002 07:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Out of his song-based albums I think I'd marginally go for Another Green World over Before & After Science, but both of those and Taking Tiger Mountain and Here come the Warm Jets are well worth getting.

I actually ended up getting into loads of different music as a youngster purely because it was produced by Eno (and similarly, got into Eno himself because of the Bowie stuff). So I bought the Eno-produced Talking Heads albums before any of their other stuff.

And I wouldn't have got into Devo, Robert Wyatt or Jon Hassell without him.

James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 8 November 2002 17:42 (twenty-three years ago)

To be honest about Wrong Way Up, I was really stoned when a friend played it for me... he then spent the entire length of the album explaining to me what a brilliant, underrated record it is. hahahaha... so I guess my perspective is a little skewed (I haven't heard it since).

Aaron W, Friday, 8 November 2002 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)

NO NEW YORK is the best song-based album he's ever produced. but that record sounds more like non-production to me. Am i the only one who thinks that most bands get shite after Eno's raped them?

s magnet, Friday, 8 November 2002 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)

hey george i'm in chch!

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Saturday, 9 November 2002 00:13 (twenty-three years ago)


The YES LA compilation made a point that it was "NOT produced by Brian Eno."

nickn (nickn), Saturday, 9 November 2002 01:11 (twenty-three years ago)

wrong way up: brilliant song writing. definitely dated, but so is leadbelly. it has a feel of early midi, and the cover is really badly designed, which gives it a bad sort of dating (really cheesy pixelated computer graphics). some of the song concepts are fun, like, i think it was cordoba, where they took sentences from a beginning spanish book, eg. 'meet me at the station' 'the package is under the seat' and realized that when you link them all up it becomes a sort of creepy story about some vaguely defined rendezvous.

eno's personal albums:
while i love the concept of ambient, i find the idea more entertaining than most of its realizations. eno's early stuff: warm jets, tiger mountain, before and after science, another green world are all incredible. i think green world stands in my mind as what i feel to be the most conceptually cohesive of the four. (but then, it might be worth noting that it was the first one that i heard straight through without having to flip the tape over.

of his later personal work, i think my favorites are music for airports and nerve net. (speaking of 'dated' his use of the dx7 on nerve net is pretty clever. i can't seem to get awesome sounds like that out of mine)

eno's collaborations / productions

my life in the bush of ghosts is really awesome. some just amazing stuff that essentially evolved from him and byrne sitting around recording stuff off the radio in new york.

his work with u2 moved them from the realm of musicians to artists, almost by association. a lot of people think his approaches were really destructive, for instance most of the really poorly thought out tracks on unforgettable fire were his 'fault' although i think some of them work quite nicely.

bowie: i believe that the latter half of the berlin trilogy was essentially co-produced by eno, although the liner notes all credit bowie-visconti. i seem to recall bowie and eno saying somewhere that his influence gradually became stronger as time went on. in my opinion, the berlin years stand out as bowie's most interesting.


of course eno seems to have worked with everybody and their brother, quite literally, so i can't cover all his collaborations for quality, but i think that many have developed a sort of faith in eno (certainly i have) and taken his influence as an excuse for being introduced to a lot of occasionally interesting new artists. when i say a faith in eno, i don't mean that i think all of his methods are brilliant, (though some weirdos do) but a faith that he'll consistantly attempt to do things that he finds interesting and new, rather than getting bogged down in doing exactly the same thing. (speaking of, does anybody think that bowie's new album sound pretty much like visconti all over again? and though i really like a lot of the stuff he's done, i associate steve lillywhite with a very particular type of sound.)

blah blah blah very tired. so you want get a qualitative evaluation on individual albums i'm afraid i'm flaking out, but in general, i recommend at least considering albums that eno produces, and then, if you hate them, consider them once more. but that's probably as far as i'd go.

blah, just me rambling.

daniel e mcanulty (mcanulty), Sunday, 10 November 2002 10:22 (twenty-three years ago)

:have U2 let him put any of his songs on their albums
:(i'm not a fan) or did they relegate him to that "passengers"
:thing and pay him off that way ? or was my life in the bush
:of ghosts his way of doing things anyway, providing that
:deserved arms-length artistic difference ?

that's a stupid question. a more proper question is 'has eno let u2 put any of their songs on the albums that he produced' which is actually yes, he has. he got a lot of criticism on unforgettable fire, i think, because of his extremely direct approach, he had a very heavy handed influence. (although he brought dan lanois along just so he wouldn't put out a dud album. eno got booted from EG records at some point because none of his recordings sold at all and he had no confidence that he could put out a very commercial album. bono brought eno out of 'retirement' actually, in order to work with them) joshua tree, though some people don't like it, is actually u2's most popular album of all time, and i think is a great example of eno being very influential while still bringing out and condensing the sound and flavor of a band onto a record. i think their recent work without him, pop, was one of the flattest most uninteresting albums i've ever heard from them. (though i've not listened to their new one)

Passengers was a really great album, actually, fusing the personal interests of lots of different members of the u2 ensemble and really putting out something different and fresh. the fake movies are hilarious too, so believable.

and 'my life', amigo, was put out in 1979. before u2 even issued their first album. maybe it's just be, but i find the notion of 'paying off' the producer by putting out an album ~15 years after you've started working with him really laughable.

incidentally, speaking of fripp-eno, i recently had the pleasure of somebody stealing my copy of fripp-eno's (no pussyfooting). i hope they like it. (on a tangential note, my discman also got stolen, containing a copy of some tuva throat singing. i bet they'll dig that)

daniel e mcanulty (mcanulty), Sunday, 10 November 2002 10:41 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
x-post Eno didn't produce any of Bowie's Berlin trilogy. Though he did co-write some of the best tracks, like "Heroes" and "Look Back in Anger."

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

yknow what i hate hate hate? my life in the bush with (of?) ghosts. that shit is dreadful.

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

haha I can't believe I started this thread! It seems so long ago...

nickalicious listens to Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy all the fucking time n, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

ten years pass...

The Robert Calvert album ("Lucky Leif and the Longships") is kind of essential. At times it sounds exactly like an Eno album from the same time, including the vocals (which is interesting) except for the insane concept, weird Beach Boys homage, etc. I'm completely baffled as to why it doesn't have a higher profile here. 1975, Eno producing, and it's really something else. Posting one of the less-weird, more Eno-esque tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiuGg3FEDVg

dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:07 (nine years ago)

Must've not appeared on our Discover Weekly Spotify playlists

lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:36 (nine years ago)

it's definitely an odd one from those early prolific days, along with the Lady June album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u237XYoISc&index=2&list=PLjc8Jcsf6q4l18vjimBBpRKOM-UMZ959c

Other little discussed detours and collaborations include his '70s stuff with Robert Wyatt, an appearance with Camel on Elke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERTVZx7M3g4

Plus, in the '80s, this ace Roxy Music rip-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekufPK0pGvE

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 May 2016 19:01 (nine years ago)

Apparently the Robert Calvert CD version of Leif is another one of those weird "CD very different from vinyl but we don't want to talk about it" albums. I have an Anthony Mo(o)re album with similar issues. Just ordered a vinyl copy of Leif from Germany to find out what's up. A few tracks are on youtube ripped from vinyl, and yeah, pretty noticeably different. So basically, it's not on Spotify or Tidal, and even if you order a CD copy, you're getting something different from the original. Written out of history, etc.

dlp9001, Sunday, 29 May 2016 20:01 (nine years ago)

Tuomas, in all seriousness the singer from Roxy Music is Bryan Ferry. Brian Eno started out in the band and played on their first few records before becoming famous for everything else he did.

― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, May 9, 2014 11:45 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i.e. producing "Lucky Leif and the Longships" by Bob Calvert

― A frenzied geologist (Tom D.), Friday, May 9, 2014 11:48 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 June 2016 09:50 (nine years ago)

four years pass...

Listening to 801 Live after a few beers tonight, and damn this record is good. One of my most played records when it was new, great to revisit.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 5 February 2021 05:38 (five years ago)

It's a good mix of Eno's pop/glam sensibilities (just before he abandoned them) and the prog/fusion elements from Manzanera/Quiet Sun, it never goes too far in either direction.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 5 February 2021 16:23 (five years ago)


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