Avey Tare & Panda Bear

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on an old Other Music review, i heard one of their clips and was really impressed, but i did some research and heard lots of talk of pop and comparisions to Radiohead, Bowie and Mercury Rev (not particularly bad bands, but not what i'm looking for)

they any good?

― JasonD, Friday, 8 November 2002 07:25 (twenty-three years ago)

they're pretty good, having heard most of "spirit they're gone" and owning "danse manatee." there are some slightly poppy moments but they're usually contrasted with more fucked up elements, like the high-pitched feedback and electronics on "spirit" or the general weirdness of the second album. if i had to compare them to anything, it would be this heat and/or volcano the bear; but that's because i hear kind of a similarity in the way they deftly blend the accessible and bizarre.

anyone comparing them to radiohead/bowie/mercury rev is probably just trying to sell copies of their albums...

― your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 8 November 2002 07:43 (twenty-three years ago)

anyone comparing them to radiohead/bowie/mercury rev is probably just trying to sell copies of their albums...

either that or they've never heard the likes of this heat or volcano the bear...both of which i think are better comparisons...

i've seen them live twice and have all of their output and it's definitely mutated over the years, but yeah... they pretty much make music for animals... so if you could imagine what dolphin and mole rock is like, that's the animal collective. (as they've now become after the name just kept getting longer and longer with the addition of each new member.) the music's very fond of border frequency ranges, just as many animals hear high and lower frequencies than we do. sort of like twee monster, on acid, played by ants.

definitely classic... but classic to the small, loyal order of dolphins out there.

eee! eee!
m.

― msp, Friday, 8 November 2002 08:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Danse Manatee is a classic. The band has its influences, but in terms of production, that album doesn't really sounds like any others I've ever heard (except maybe the cLOUDDEAD record). That's the one to look for. I think it's out of print, but you still may be able to find it. I think I heard someone may repress it soon, too...

― ^Diego^ (dhadis), Friday, 8 November 2002 14:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Spirit is a decent album, but I find it hard to listen to very often. The problem is that, sonically, a large part of the album is really heavy on high frequency sound. It's not *painful* (at least for anyone who's ventured out of mainstream music), but it can be very very annoying. That's unfortunate, because there are some pretty interesting songs beneath all that. Anyway, it's ok, but sometimes I feel like the abrasiveness outweighs the prettiness, or at least detracts from it instead of adding to it.

― Rahul Kamath (Rahul Kamath), Friday, 8 November 2002 17:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I enjoy but rarely listen to their records. Like 'em live a lot, too--they really are not like any other band I can think of, for which they get points.

― Douglas, Friday, 8 November 2002 21:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Why does everyone keep saying "they"? When I saw "them" a couple weeks ago, it was just one guy. He was pretty good though... very blissed out guitar processing, and yet he sounded terminally nervous at the same time.

― charlie va (charlie va), Friday, 8 November 2002 21:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Dreadful dreadful dreadful stuff. Just really really bad.

Don't listen to Other Music. They're "good friends" with the staff at Other Music.

Again. Avoid AT & PB like the plague.

― Mr_Mister@broken_wings.net, Friday, 8 November 2002 22:05 (twenty-three years ago)

OM friends or not, I think they're swell. Like Douglas, tho, I don't listen to them all that much - in fact, I haven't listened to their discs in quite a while. That doesn't mean they suck, tho. Catsup Plate Records has an MP3 from _Danse Manatee_ for your listening pleasure.

Every time I've read stuff about them (usually in catalogs), the words "This" and "Heat" come up (as msp noted), along with the names of bands that share similar proclivities. This is one of the cases where the group / collective / what have you is taking inspiration from said reference point w/out resorting to shameless aping.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 8 November 2002 22:18 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...

Avey Tare and Pand Bear et al are near to my heart, but I too don't listen to the records very often. The live shows change so much and contain so much energy and creativity that the records always seem to be small portions of what they can do. But I still reccomend them highly. The live record (hollindagain) has three amazing tracks recorded at WFMU that are my favorite things they have released. The record was released by St Ives, a Secretly Canadian subsidiary, in an unfortunately small pressing. Hopefully it will be repressed. Keep your eyes out for Campfire Songs an acoustic album featuring three of the collective. The Campfire Songs live show at Tonic was unbelievably beautiful.

― ano ano, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 19:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I saw them in Detroit last April and they were fantastic, one of the best shows I saw last year (totally upstaged Wolf Eyes that night as far as I'm concerned). Bought SPIRIT THEY'RE GONE and was a little disappointed. Not bad by any means, actually pretty good, but it definitely reminded me of Mercury Rev.

Bottom line: see them live, they're totally fucked.

― Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 23:01 (twenty-three years ago)

four months pass...

Campfire Songs was finally released and it is truly beautiful (check out catsupplate.com for an mp3). Long, loose acoustic folk jams stretched to breaking and then brought back together. Once again the animal collective provide the right amounts of atmosphere, melody, and ideas to create a truly rewarding listening experience. Campfire Songs was recorded outside with lots of environmental sounds incorporated into the mix. An ideal listening environment would be early morning or late nite with your windows open to add to the sounds. The beatiful insert with pictures and lyrics makes listening to the album similar to reading a children's book with stories of dead doggies and car crashes. Excellent.

― ano ano, Friday, 9 May 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic. Fuck "no wave", New York is all about great New Age records these days (cf. Black Dice: Beaches and Canyons). I'm serious. Also, I echo what people above said: a great live experience, always unpredictable and unconcerned.

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

one of the few bands in the past few years doing something both orginal, interesting and fun. love it all from Panda Bear's album to Campfire Songs.

― jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm led to believe there's a sonic departure from the first record to 'Campfire Songs'. Does this mean they're more Amon Duul than Mercury Rev now?

― ss, Friday, 9 May 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Their defintely has been a departure. Everything after Spirit has been looser and more idiosyncratic/original. While Spirit was certainly was a unique album made by talented musicians, I can definitely understand the Mercury Rev/ Flaming Lips comparisons. I'm not overly familiar with Amon Duul, but Campfire Songs is the only pastoral album they've made, the rest have some harsh electronics and screaming from time to time.

― ano ano, Friday, 9 May 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

animal collective shows: may 20 @ north six & may 25 @ Tonic. campfire songs is pleasant listening, but still like danse manatee better.

― s-laughter, Friday, 9 May 2003 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

yep classic all the way, but Campfire Songs, whilst not particularly representative, is probably THE way in for newbies. Anybody heard "Here Comes The Indian" yet?

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

"here comes the indian" is probably their best record so far. If you saw them on tour last year, it's all those songs, performed with all 4 members. It's crazier and more fucked-with sounding, Some tracks sound too much like recent black dice, but it is like the beaches and canyons of a different planet. It's a really good record.

― ano ano (ano ano), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

*jealous* This album is nowhere on soulseek!

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

nathan, did you get to see them this week in the uk? I'm wondering how those shows are going

― ano ano (ano ano), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I think they've been doing some instores and their debut performance proper is in Brighton tomorrow night. Sadly I haven't been (and won't be) able to catch them (sighs). Still, they could tour the UK and end up playing to 50 people, like Black Dice did in Birmingham this week.

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I would think with fat cat behind them, black dice would draw more people.

― ano ano (ano ano), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

It escapes me. Black Dice have been largely unheraled in the UK, Lightning Bolt too. Though I'm tangentally involved in a regional touring programme here in the UK, I don't hold out much hope for provincal gigging. I saw Buck 65 play to a hugely unreceptive crowd at the same venue about 2 months earlier, and the guy is nothing if not a showman.

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

It brings up a larger question of mine. I never feel like I really understand how American acts are thought of in the UK. I was very surprised to read that !!! had been signed to Warp. They just seem like smelly punk guys into dancing and to sign to a label of stature was weird.

― ano ano (ano ano), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to work for Warp a long time ago, so perhaps it doesn't strike me as that surprising - as an organisation they are not so musically hermetic as they may appear on the outside. But aren't !!! signed to Touch and Go in states - presumably they still have some clout over there?

I think BD and LB's profile in the Uk is an inverse to the hype they have in the US. I think you only have to look at the different reactions of posters on this board according to the geography. Many of the US based posters seem fed to the back teeth of hearing about both bands but the interested folks in the UK are crying out for a bit of substantal coverage.

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.demon.co.uk/momus/tareanime.gif

Tare Panda?

― Fivvy (Fivvy), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

eleven years pass...

how poetic.

http://www.pbvsgr.com/

― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 September 2014 21:13 (eleven years ago)

meaning that there's SUPPOSED to me a mixtape there...

― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 September 2014 21:16 (eleven years ago)

link not working?

― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 12 September 2014 21:23 (eleven years ago)

Lost interest in PB new album as soon as it was made known Sonicboom was producing on it again.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 12 September 2014 21:25 (eleven years ago)

yeah! not sure what happened with the link.

i dunno, PB albums always have something i like but for AC solo i usually prefer Avey's stuff.

― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 September 2014 21:26 (eleven years ago)

link down her'es a direct vido link http://d3ehrhs646vxq9.cloudfront.net/pandabear/pbvsgr/video/pvav-01.mp4

― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 12 September 2014 21:28 (eleven years ago)

Down There was the best solo imo

― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 12 September 2014 21:28 (eleven years ago)

But Sonic Boom is just a narrow minded drag of a person. His hatred for whole swaths of really good music based on stupid little beliefs of his is maddening as he's working with PB. Just stoner buddies.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 12 September 2014 21:31 (eleven years ago)

http://d3ehrhs646vxq9.cloudfront.net/pandabear/pbvsgr/video/two.mp4 <<<<

― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 12 September 2014 21:35 (eleven years ago)

i love that pb and ariel pink are releasing their double album magnum opuses in the same year

― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Sunday, 14 September 2014 07:01 (eleven years ago)

One of the reasons I loved AC is their abilty to be versatile and interesting with each record.
PB (and the band) isnow kinda stuck on the Person Pitch sound.
And it's boring. Especially since it's hard to recreate it's greatness.

― nostormo, Sunday, 14 September 2014 07:49 (eleven years ago)

Was it even that great idk

― jaymc, Sunday, 14 September 2014 07:50 (eleven years ago)

No. Tomboy was better.

― monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Sunday, 14 September 2014 08:14 (eleven years ago)

No. Tomboy was better.

This.

― J. Sam, Sunday, 14 September 2014 17:09 (eleven years ago)

tomboy is not very good imo, it's really boring and his voice is terrible on it

― marcos, Monday, 15 September 2014 14:09 (eleven years ago)

Blame Sonic Boom, he took the fun away.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 15 September 2014 16:07 (eleven years ago)

four years pass...

new avey tare record COWS ON HOURGLASS POND is very good. a synthesis of down there production + eucalyptus / pullhair rubeye songwriting. the two songs on the 10" that came with the LP should've been on the album.

― flappy bird, Friday, 22 March 2019 01:20 (seven years ago)

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