S/D - Covers of Wire songs

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Good:

Die Kreuzen - Pink Flag (awesome 7" with a germs cover too!)
Minor Threat - 12XU (The band that got me intro Wire)

Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Friday, 8 November 2002 16:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Destroy: Fischerspooner and all her friends.

^Diego^ (dhadis), Friday, 8 November 2002 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)

^Diego^: I agree. But what have they covered?

Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Friday, 8 November 2002 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)

The New Bomb Turks covered "Mr. Suit," which was funny because that song always seemed like it's supposed to be a parody of a punk song (tired of being told what to think, tired of being told what to do) and of course the NBT take it seriously.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Friday, 8 November 2002 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)

good: My Bloody Valentine "Map Ref 41N 93W"

luke (luke), Friday, 8 November 2002 16:45 (twenty-three years ago)

The R.E.M. cover of "Strange" is nice.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 8 November 2002 16:48 (twenty-three years ago)

search: Mike Watt "the 15th" live a few tours back...really great arrangement with lots of harmonies...i remember seeing MP3's of it around.

Al (sitcom), Friday, 8 November 2002 16:49 (twenty-three years ago)

scrawl's version of "reuters"- grebt

mike (ro)bott, Friday, 8 November 2002 16:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Salem 66 did a good version of "Fragile" on A Ripping Spin.

mike a (mike a), Friday, 8 November 2002 16:57 (twenty-three years ago)

My Life Story - Outdoor Miner

I can't say if its classic or dud, coz my CD broke ages ago and i can't remember what is sounded lik :-(

Robin Goad (rgoad), Friday, 8 November 2002 17:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Flying Saucer Attack's version of Outdoor Miner sucks. The same song with more feedback - nothing new to add. Polyphonic Spree should do it.

jon (jon), Friday, 8 November 2002 17:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I think everyone did "Outdoor Miner" at one point or another -- off the top of my head, Lush, Antenna, Luna...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 November 2002 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)

And did any of them make a decent job of it?

jon (jon), Friday, 8 November 2002 17:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Brian Baker's Dag Nasty also did a cover of "12XU" that amped up Minor Threat's rendition.

I'm waiting for someone to cover "Kidney Bingoes" inna death metal stylee.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 November 2002 17:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Elastica:Elastica

spongebob, Friday, 8 November 2002 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)

fIREHOSE - cover of "Mannequin"


dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 8 November 2002 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Moose covered "Kidney Bingos" on a 7" that came with their first album. It's nice, but mostly because Moose can do no wrong.

Search: MBV's cover of "Map Ref 41N 93W," Roy Montgomery's cover of "Used To."

Destroy: REM's cover of "Strange." Ruins what would have otherwise been a perfect side A of "Document."

Elastica and Menswear of course, instead of doing Wire covers they were Wire covers.

fortunate hazel, Friday, 8 November 2002 17:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Deja Voodoo's version of "Strange" kicks REM's all around the room, out the door, back in the door, and then out the window. Through the glass.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 8 November 2002 18:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I was on a road trip recently with a friend, who wasn't familiar with Wire, so I played the first two albums in the car. Every few songs, I'd point out "Lush covered this...Minor Threat covered this...Big Black covered this..." I am sure that I must have been annoying as fuck.

Search: Big Black - "Heartbeat", Yo La Tengo - "Too Late"

Ernest P. (ernestp), Friday, 8 November 2002 18:36 (twenty-three years ago)

every time i listen to "The 15th" i keep hearing the melody from a Pixies song. i just sat through the 3albums i still have (Surfer Rosa, Come on Pilgrim, and Doolittle) and i couldn't figure it out. maybe possibly "gigantic" borrowed the melody?

JasonD, Friday, 8 November 2002 19:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Search: My Bloody Valentine "Map Ref 41N 93W"
Destroy: Bark Psychosis "12XU"

T. Weiss (Timmy), Friday, 8 November 2002 20:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean Destroy: Bark Psychosis "Three Girl Rhumba"

T. Weiss (Timmy), Friday, 8 November 2002 20:10 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm very fond of Band of Susans' "Ahead"--I think it improves on Wire's version, actually

Douglas, Friday, 8 November 2002 21:01 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, I don't think you can top R.E.M.'s Strange. Taking what was just a fine little breather on Pink Flag and adding hand claps, a guitar solo, arena rock swagger was stellar. Not to mention taking the tossed off "da-doodoos" at the beginning of the original and turning them into a closing chant. I actually knew the R.E.M. version before Wire's, and for a long time couldn't appreciate the original because of its lack of pomp. The MBV and Mike Watt covers are nice and incorporate their own sense of sonics into the songs, but R.E.M. did more than just put their signature on the song, they made a bubblegum classic out of it that's arguably better than their original attempts at the genre, like "Stand." So give the Athenians their due.

Anthony Miccio, Saturday, 9 November 2002 19:30 (twenty-three years ago)

there is going to be a cd filled only with new covers of outdoor miner on the words on music label.

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 10 November 2002 07:37 (twenty-three years ago)

really? have they finalised the band list yet?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 10 November 2002 22:50 (twenty-three years ago)

no, i looked at their website and only band mentioned was coastal. i imagine motion picture too since it is their label.

keith (keithmcl), Monday, 11 November 2002 05:21 (twenty-three years ago)

can't believe it took something like 14 posts to mention Big Black doing "Heartbeat". oh wait, yes i can, this is ILM.

still, it's very good. i'd like to hear a bootleg of them doing it on their last tour with the Wir(e) boys themselves.

Dave M. (rotten03), Monday, 11 November 2002 08:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Bragging thread: I am the proud of owner of what is claimed to be (and certified by Robert Gotobed as) an original handwritten draft of the lyrics of Outdoor Miner.

Sad or what? William Blake meets The Clash in my front room.

jon (jon), Monday, 11 November 2002 09:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Felt used to do Outdoor Miner live occasionally, in their Creation days, around the time of "Ballad of the Band"

bham, Monday, 11 November 2002 10:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Re: Big Black covering "Heartbeat":
i'd like to hear a bootleg of them doing it on their last tour with the Wir(e) boys themselves.

It's on the live Pig Pile videotape, but they left it off the Pig Pile album release - it frankly isn't that hot (that's probably why they omitted it). Stick with the superior studio version.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Monday, 11 November 2002 15:12 (twenty-three years ago)

insect surfers do "ex-lion tamer" (i think) on their ep.

tony bleach, Monday, 11 November 2002 15:51 (twenty-three years ago)

soulside does "ex-lion tamer" on "Less deep inside keeps"

Anthony Miccio, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 01:36 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
Revive - no one mentioned the amusing "Outdoor Miner" covers that Britpoppers My Life Story and The Lightning Seeds did. There was also a tribute band called The Ex-Lion Tamers that toured with Wire in the 80s playing the entirety of Pink Flag (and one night, they did Chairs Missing too). Their "album" was scheduled to be released by Wire Mail Order, but never came out due to lack of funds.

Anyway, search the 2 Wire tribute albums : "Whore" and "Dugga Dugga Dugga".

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 29 April 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard Eleventh Dream Day do "Lowdown" live.

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Friday, 30 April 2004 03:16 (twenty-one years ago)

S: Boss Hog, "12XU"

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 30 April 2004 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah pretty much everything elastica ever did (especially their _better_ stuff) came out like wire tributes..

chris andrews (fraew), Friday, 30 April 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Wire need covers like a fish needs a bicycle.

bimble (bimble), Friday, 30 April 2004 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Wire need covers like a fish needs a bicycle.

-- bimble (grippledybu...), April 30th, 2004.

..a bit like the modern lovers, i guess

chris andrews (fraew), Friday, 30 April 2004 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Wish I'd gotten around to getting a Modern Lovers CD. Thanks for the reminder, honestly.

bimble (bimble), Friday, 30 April 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The Pink Lincolns do 'Ex-Lion Tamer' It's okay...

So does my band.

Sasha (sgh), Friday, 30 April 2004 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Wish I'd gotten around to getting a Modern Lovers CD. Thanks for the reminder, honestly.

-- bimble (grippledybu...), April 30th, 2004

pick up any of his pre-1980 material - especially the debut, the compilation 'beserkley years' or the 1977 live lp..

chris andrews (fraew), Friday, 30 April 2004 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I like it when people say "pick up any of his/her/their pre-1980 material".

bimble (bimble), Friday, 30 April 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
As if the world didn't have enough Outdoor Miners:

WIRE's "OUTDOOR MINER" TRIBUTE AVAILABLE FOR PRE-ORDER NOW!

A Houseguest's Wish: Translations of Wire's 'Outdoor Miner' will be
released by Words On Music on November 9, 2004. The album is available for pre-order now exclusively through Words On Music with an estimated ship date of October 5, 2004. Visit our order page here: www.words-on-music.com/order.html

A Houseguest's Wish is Words On Music's 25th Anniversary tribute to the seminal WIRE song, "Outdoor Miner." Released in 1979 as a 7" single (and appearing in a more skeletal version on their Chairs Missing LP), fans and critics have long regarded Outdoor Miner as one of WIRE's finest moments - and one of their rare early excursions into unbridled, sugar coated pop.

Featured appearances on this tribute include:

An acoustic excursion by Swervedriver frontman Adam Franklin
Lush's dazzling and energetic 1991 recording
A buoyant pop rendition by Typewriter (Lucy Show singer Mark Bandola)
Flying Saucer Attack's fuzzed-out version from 1995
The Beach Boys harmony-laden rendering by Kick On The Floods- the new
project by For Stars singer Carlos Forster.

The Outdoor Miner single was poised to be WIRE's breakthrough song in
their native England in 1979 until the British Market Research Bureau,
compilers of the BBC charts, withdrew the single on allegations EMI had improperly hyped the single's sales. As a result, WIRE narrowly missed appearing on the influential Top Of The Pops television program, and remained a band with credible cult status but no hit records. On the Silver Anniversary of Outdoor Miner's release, Words On Music sets free this brilliant pop song once more through a full-length album tribute. Choosing one WIRE song for this project is particularly apt in light of the band's 1991 album The Drill - which contains nine reworkings of the title track.

Words On Music has assembled interpretations by 19 artists from five
countries (Germany, Spain, United Kingdom, Canada, USA) into one
stunning and diverse collection - translating the song into versions
ranging from folk to punk.

Outdoor Miner's strange subject matter - that of the leaf-dwelling
serpentine miner insect - was once described by WIRE singer and bassist Graham Lewis as their 'least commercial lyric.' But by integrating such impenetrable words into what is otherwise an extremely hummable, catchy pop song, Outdoor Miner transcends niche, cult-song status: it is a fertile composition capable of metamorphosis.

A Houseguest's Wish - Full Track Listing:

1. Adam Franklin (UK, Swervedriver / Toshack Highway)
2. Titania (Canada, Resplendent Records)
3. Kick On The Floods (USA, For Stars singer Carlos Forster)
4. Timonium (USA, Pehr Records)
5. Polar (Spain, Jabalina Musica)
6. Typewriter (UK, Lucy Show singer Mark Bandola)
7. Fiel Garvie (UK, Words On Music)
8. Lush (UK, 4AD Records)
9. Experimental Aircraft (USA, Rollerderby Records)
10. above the orange trees (USA, Mudita Records)
11. Christian Kiefer (USA, Extreme Europe)
12. Flying Saucer Attack (UK, Domino Recording Company)
13. Boy Division (Germany)
14. Sharron Kraus (UK, Camera Obscura Records)
15. The Meeting Places (USA, Words On Music)
16. Laura Watling (USA, Shelflife Records)
17. Should (USA, Words On Music)
18. The Sems (USA, Audraglint Records)
19. Junetile (Canada, Ocean Music)

Full song sound samples: www.words-on-music.com/sounds.html

Order Words On Music CDs: www.words-on-music.com/order.html

Wire you reading this (Michael F Gill), Friday, 17 September 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Destroy: Fischerspooner and all her friends

Really? I think their cover of "The 15th" is great.

Lukas (lukas), Friday, 17 September 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, don't get me wrong, other than that track, die die die.

Lukas (lukas), Friday, 17 September 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I appreciate Words on Music gathering some fun past examples but they shoulda gone for the Antenna and Luna versions as well if they wanted to aim for completism.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 September 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Boy Division (Germany)

Bah, beaten again.

Michael Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Saturday, 18 September 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's my cover of "Three Girl Rhumba." It is much better than the original version, as I have managed to pare it down to a Two Girl Rhumba, with the savings passed on to you, the consumer!

Jesse Fuchs (Jesse Fuchs), Saturday, 18 September 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
Well, I've got a review copy of A Houseguest's Wish and so far so good, but unsurprisingly given that it's Words On Music the bent is rather shoegazery (OH DARN). What is nice is realizing how sweetly perfect the song's basic construction is. It's one of those infinite songs in that I could easily imagine it endlessly looping somewhere (a bit like "Soon").

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 October 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Second listen now in twelve hours. It's interesting, while there are a number of rote near-recreations, the ones that take chances as such work more often than not, and the fact that it's the same song throughout makes the whole thing an atypical sort of mantra.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 October 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...
No blind spots in the Jarvis eyes

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 05:38 (nineteen years ago)

that one's not too bad. nothing special, but at least he's not butchering it.

latebloomer, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

anyway, search:

big black - heartbeat
minor threat - 12xu
mbv - map ref

latebloomer, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 05:48 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Ex-Lion Tamer open for Wire at Maxwell's and they did the entire Chairs Missing album IN SEQUENCE and were phenomenal. Member: Jim DeRogatis.... (Wire were incredible btw)

I have heard Mary Lou Lord do a nice cover of Outdoor Miner, surprised it wouldn't be on that compilation. It isn't earth shattering but I like Mary Lou... (i.e. search)

Yeah, the Scrawl version of "Reuters", did that actually make it onto record? That was from their session with Albini, I had a cassette of the session which was amazing but I don't recall what ever happened with all the tracks (I remember a Nugent cover on there, maybe "Stranglehold" which rocked my world a bit.) This was before the boy drummer joined and they "jumped the shark"... I think it was all covers actually. Scrawl were die shizn0r.

I also prefer the Dag Nasty 12XU to Minor Threat's. Not that you care but, fuck, this is all free to write anyway.

Die Kreuzen's cover, genius, and I love that band, don't care what you think of them.

I could swear Dean Wareham did one but I can't remember, maybe Outdoor Miner too, that was nice too.

Saxby D. Elder, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 06:21 (nineteen years ago)

no apologies necessary 4 Die Kreuzen love!

latebloomer, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 06:44 (nineteen years ago)

The Angry Angles covered "The 15th" on the Apparent Transparent 7". It is good.

xero, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 07:07 (nineteen years ago)

I thought that New Bomb Turks one mentioned upthread (which rules) was their own song for maybe 18 months, cos they didn't care to credit Wire anywhere on the album

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

Ted Leo has also covered "Outdoor Miner" live.

Ben Boyerrr, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

that one's not too bad. nothing special, but at least he's not butchering it.

Hey, he kept the piano break at least!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

There's a cover of a Colin Newman song on one of the This Mortal Coil albums - a solo track I suppose, but I suspect he wrote it when he was in Wire

Tom D., Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it was recorded but not released around the time of A-Z.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

[I mean Destroy: Bark Psychosis "Three Girl Rhumba"

T. Weiss (Timmy) on Friday, 8 November 2002[/i]

i actually like this altho it's so far removed it might as well be any other song perhaps.

blueski, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Was gonna mention the Angry Angles cover of "The 15th", but xero beat me to it. Really beautiful. Fragile, synth-like guitars and layered female vocals. Still with one foot in punk/garage, but much gentler than that might suggest.

Also great:

Big Black: "Heartbeat"
Die Kreuzen: "Pink Flag"
MBV: "Map Ref."
NBT: "Mr. Suit"

Pye Poudre, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

I saw recently-reformed hardcore punk band Riot Squad do 12XU last Monday. Was OK, Minor Threat style. They also covered Wasted by Black Flag. There was only about 20 people at the gig! The Epoxies were headlining and were understandably a bit nonplussed by the lack of attendance, although didn't stop them playing a decent set.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...

I finally gave in and bought the Whore compilation of Wire covers (wanted to hear the Band of Susans "Ahead" in full non-mp3 glory) and it really is pretty wonderful. Biggest surprise so far is how much I like Bark Psychosis' very weird take on 3 Girl Rhumba. Contrary to what was said above, a surprising number of these arguably improve on the original. MBV and Band of Susans definitely. Laika and Lush possibly...

dlp9001, Monday, 1 October 2007 01:21 (eighteen years ago)

_Whore_ is the only tribute album that I find worth listening to repeatedly. These artists take on Wire's genius is so varied and downright fun! Chris Connelly's "A Mutual Friend" is particularly fascinating.

Mr. Odd, Monday, 1 October 2007 03:55 (eighteen years ago)

I heard REM's version of Strange way before I ever heard anything by Wire and never realized it was a cover. When I finally picked up Pink Flag years later and Strange came on I was totally confused how a record from 1977 could have a cover of an REM song on it.

joygoat, Monday, 1 October 2007 04:40 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, REM's version of "Strange" was probably the first Wire song I ever heard without realizing it was a Wire song. "Eardrum Buzz" was the first Wire song I heard performed by Wire themselves (they played it on 120 Minutes or Postmodern MTV or whatever on pretty heavy rotation when it was current).

But for some reason, I never went back and checked out 1970s Wire until some point in the mid-90s, when I found the first three albums in the cassette bargain bin at Camelot for about $2 each. Mind. Blown.

That said, Mike Watt's cover of "The 15th" on WHORE is probably still my favorite Wire cover.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 October 2007 05:09 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Saw the Feelies in Boston Saturday night and they did an amazing version of "Outdoor Miner" as an encore.

Jazzbo, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:34 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

I'm gonna attempt to make a WHORE 2 based on some of the suggestions on this thread. Any other additions?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 12 February 2010 22:25 (sixteen years ago)

It's not very good at all, but I don't think anyone mentioned that Henry Rollins did 'Ex-Lion Tamer' under the name Henrietta Colins & The Wife-Beating Childhaters.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Friday, 12 February 2010 22:47 (sixteen years ago)

FWIW I disagree with the person who says that Flying Saucer Attack's version of Outdoor Miner is rubbish- it's a really good cover, FSA and Wire are a natural fit.

Neil S, Friday, 12 February 2010 22:51 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

Looking for an ethereal/female version of "Heartbeat"?

Here you go:
http://soundcloud.com/sugarcane/gazelle-heartbeat

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

three months pass...

Trying to remember what Kiwi covers of Wire songs exist after hearing Arch Hill (neo-Flying Nun-esque) band Street Chant cover "Outdoor Miner":
http://thecorner.co.nz/2013/05/06/listen-to-street-chant-cover-wires-outdoor-miner/

There's Roy Montgomery's "Used To"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_htnvQmbEE

& Salad Boys (who backed David Kilgour last month) doing "Strange":
https://soundcloud.com/cheersbud/salad-boys-strange-wire-cover

I'm sure there's something really obvious I'm missing (or maybe it's that whole Pin Group/This Kind Of Punishment/etc axis sounded a lot like Wire in the first place, heh).

etc, Monday, 6 May 2013 04:04 (twelve years ago)

trembling blue stars 'kidney bingos' is really pretty

groovy replacement (electricsound), Monday, 6 May 2013 04:35 (twelve years ago)

I had managed to suppress my memory of bogan icons Shihad doing "12XU" but for completion's sake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCleYTcgtiw

etc, Monday, 6 May 2013 05:06 (twelve years ago)

six months pass...

Hey, based on this thread I compiled Whore 2 - apparently I'm not the first to do this according to Google. I didn't include anything from the "Houseguest's Wish" and "Drill Drill Drill" covers albums.

Band Of Susans - Too Late (Peel Session)
Boss Hog - 12XU
Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine - Mannequin
Deja Voodoo - Strange
Die Kreuzen - Pink Flag
Dykehouse - Map Ref. 41 Degrees N 93 Degrees W
Fischerspooner - The 15th
Gazelle Twin - Heartbeat
Kustomized - Surgeon's Girl
Lemonheads - Fragile
Low - Heartbeat
Roy Montgomery - Used To
Moose - Kidney Bingos
My Life Story - Outdoor Miner
New Bomb Turks - Mr. Suit
Red Zoo - 5/10
Henry Rollins - Ex-Lion Tamer
Spoke - Ahead
Spoon - Lowdown (live)
Therapy? - Reuters
This Mortal Coil - Not Me
This Mortal Coil - Alone

Other good versions of the same songs:
Ampere - Mr. Suit
Angry Angles - The 15th
Cops - Lowdown
Dive - Heartbeat
Lightning Seeds - Outdoor Miner
Minor Threat - 12XU
R.E.M. - Strange
Salem 66 - Fragile
Scrawl - Reuters
Soul Side - Ex-Lion Tamer
Yo La Tengo - Too Late

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 15 November 2013 16:55 (twelve years ago)

^ sub big black for something

CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Friday, 15 November 2013 17:08 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, Big Black's "Heartbeat" is ok and all but I tried to find odd or different approaches to the same material.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 15 November 2013 18:39 (twelve years ago)

boo, play it louder

CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:28 (twelve years ago)

british "shoegaze" band moose put out a version of kidney bingos in 1998. S or D? I'll let you guess.

OutdoorFish, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:44 (twelve years ago)

oh just seen it above

OutdoorFish, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:46 (twelve years ago)


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