Crystals. C or D?

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i happen to think CLASSIC by far, as i cannot get enough particularly of "he's a rebel." i would love to do a karaoke version of this song, if only to see the staunchy older women in the crowd become very puzzled.

JOOLS, Saturday, 9 November 2002 07:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Jools, you're not my secret husband by any chance, are you? ;-)

People only start these theads as Kate-bait, don't they? Because I will be forced to get online and declare my love again and again and again. He's A Rebel = seminal (har har har!) girl group song without which you would not have Leader Of The Pack or "Chico's Girl" any of those "I love bad boys" songs or nothing else. Pure classic, on so many levels. "Society thinks he = bad, but he is not a rebel to me" has been my downfall on so many levels, leading me to every band I've ever been in and every relationship I've ever been in. Everything I have ever been I learned from that song, etc. etc. etc.

Oh yes, and songs like the previously discussed "He Hit Me (And It Felt Like A Kiss)". And Da Doo Ron Ron. And Then He Kissed Me. How can I get enough? What A Nice Way To Turn 17 was the reason for a whole relationship "Oh, G, I love you so..."

Classic for the songwriting, Carole King and Spector/Barry/Greenwhich. Bizarrely futuristic in the way that they swapped singers without a batted eyelid. Shall we have arguments about which was the best line-up? Or just accept them as the gorgeously generic product which Spector intended?

I'm going to go and listen to my best of the Crystals CD as soon as I stop shooting my mouth off online. Don't anybody start a taking sides: crystals vs. ronettes thread or my head would surely pop.

kate st.class, Saturday, 9 November 2002 12:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Somebody else post on these random girl groups classic or dud threads, please. I'm starting to get lonely.

subtext question: was Carole King a masochist or what?

kate st.cunt, Saturday, 9 November 2002 12:26 (twenty-three years ago)

I feel your pain, Kate...and I can't deny any thread that mentions "Chico's Girl" (By THE GIRLS! no less [best band name ever?]).

and first off, just to give credit where it's due (and be a fucking trainspotter), Carole King didn't write all that much for the Crystals - aside from "He Hit Me", it was mostly Ellie Greenwich who wrote for them, if I recall correctly.

It's The Ronettes & The Shangri La's who seem to get the most props, but The Crystals were pretty solid. "He's A Rebel" (written by Gene Pitney!) and "Uptown" are high points for me... "All Grown Up" fucking rocks for the gleeful & timeless "Got my hair piled high" line - I love the perfectly insular logic of it: high-piled hair works as a signifier of "all grown up" only to teenage girls, and as a signifier of "teenage girl" to everybody else.

Also "He's Sure The Boy I Love" has that "why do I like this creep?" vibe that's so cool about Girl Group stuff (the whole "he's good bad but he's not evil" thing The Shangri La's did so well).

So yeah, let's hear it for The everlovin' Crystals.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 9 November 2002 13:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, but two of their creepiest songs - He Hit Me and Please Hurt Me are both Carole King penned.

kate, Saturday, 9 November 2002 13:59 (twenty-three years ago)

never heard "Please Hurt Me!"

they beat beat richard hell to it

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 9 November 2002 14:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Am now listening to The Best Of The Crystals, and yes, He's A Rebel = Best! Song! Evah!

So many of these songs just LONG for tongue-slip reinterpretations... "I love you Eddie... but so does Freddie..,." beat "Johnny Are You Queer" to the charts by how many years?

kate, Saturday, 9 November 2002 20:00 (twenty-three years ago)

case in point:

HE'S SURE THE BOY I LOVE!!!

kate, Saturday, 9 November 2002 20:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry, hit submit before I was done.

This is the DDB anthem. "he doesn't hang diamonds round my neck, all he gives me is unemployment checks" = immediate inspiration for "i'm barefoot pregnant, talking jive, washing dishes for teh MC5, it's been two years since we had sex, I'm just sitting here waiting for unemployment checks..."

kaet, Saturday, 9 November 2002 20:20 (twenty-three years ago)

An awkward one to answer: firstly, everything I have heard labelled as by The Crystals is pure gold. Secondly, not all of those are by The Crystals at all. Spector thought it was time for a new single and was to record it in LA. The Crystals were at school and couldn't come, so he got the Blossoms in instead, and released it as The Crystals anyway - that's He's A Rebel. He obviously noticed that they were better singers (mainly due to their lead Darlene Love, the best female pop singer the world has ever known), so the Blossoms sub again on He's Sure The Boy I Love.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 10 November 2002 14:29 (twenty-three years ago)

oddly enough, i discovered the crystals in earnest through hearing them in kenneth anger's SCORPIO RISING. if any of you know that film, you should be laughing right now.

JOOLS, Sunday, 10 November 2002 22:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Have you ever heard Debby Boone's version of "he's a rebel"? It was originally the flip side to "you light up my life" before it was withdrawn, re-released and had some cheesy spanish type song as the b side instead. Not sure why that happened.

Anyhow, it's fantastic! Really good 70s power pop. Trust me.

We played the Crystals aka Blossoms version at Slow Fizz on Saturday night, of course.

Elisabeth K, Monday, 11 November 2002 07:47 (twenty-three years ago)


damn i thought this line was about taking drugs!

Gido, Monday, 11 November 2002 07:50 (twenty-three years ago)

nine years pass...

There's No Other Like My Baby is transcendent, absolutely gorgeous (one of Johnny Marr's all-time faves I just read somewhere)

Iago Galdston, Monday, 19 March 2012 01:09 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

Yes! Just came to post the same thing. The harmonies are this are so gorgeous. Goosebumps!

calstars, Saturday, 15 November 2014 01:55 (eleven years ago)

six months pass...

Free La La Brooks show tonight: http://folkartmuseum.org/programs/block-party-64/?ID=8912

Faron Young Folks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 4 June 2015 15:31 (ten years ago)

This was lots of fun

Faron Young Folks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 June 2015 01:20 (ten years ago)

cool

curmudgeon, Friday, 5 June 2015 15:05 (ten years ago)

Maybe I should report a little more.

Maria Felix Kept On Walking (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 June 2015 14:36 (ten years ago)

Ha ha. Guessing she sang the hits and still sounded great.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 7 June 2015 16:55 (ten years ago)


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