thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

let's keep it in here, folks.

Jlin - if I wanted to hear a quantized sample of a CD skipping, I'd listen to an Oval CD from 1999

Caretaker - this is just a bunch of thrift store record samples

Oh yay I can post here AND in 'vent your bullshit'! Maybe the latter can be non-2017-specific though

yes this is just to keep your attention during the EOY poll, submitted with love

Bjork - I found this slow, gloomy, and unengaging. her mix that she did for Mixmag (?) was great, though.

*warms up FPing finger*

happy to help!

this is a safe space

;-)

Caretaker - this is just a bunch of thrift store record samples

otm, I've never understood the hype.

Angel olsens new one gets seriously dire in the second half. Love her but hate to say it's a bummer record

i'll just get this out of the way: most of the 2017 music is bad

Caretaker's not hyped though. It's got a steady following, but that's something else iirc.

Anyway I can't get enough of it.

no defences of albums itt imo

I've said this elsewhere I'm sure but the Julien Baker love-in is an album late; the new one is flat and mostly a disappointment

Where's the fun in that? xp

OK fine

but no holds barred. except like actual bigotry

KING KRULE is kind of boring.

oh yeah I can't take his voice for a second

Not as boring as The National though

That Big Thief album is boring as well. A charisma vacuum.

:o you're dead to me

I do like the Big Thief album a lot :(

LCD Soundsystem should be banned on the basis of that atrocious album cover alone. The music stinks, is completely irrelevant up to the point of self-charicture, and seeing critics hailing this has-been baffles me.

*caricature

thoroughly agree with every dis so far btw*. sleeve ur emperor palpatine

*not heard the bjork or big thief yet

Guided By Voices - the songs are twice as long and half as good (tbh I dunno how hyped this really was, but let's open the thread up to all contenders regardless of hype level/EOY standings)

I tried listening to the War on Drugs album once and I had to check the album wasn't starting over at some point. Still can't remember any of the songs in there.

@Moka, same here. It's drab.

Lorde is the new Carly Rae Jepsen - "pop" music that non-professionals spit out after a single taste, but which critics will continue to ride for forever.

Xp that is sort of the point with WoD - it's aural valium for the inhibited and the terminally nostalgic.

Me included.

Sounds like WoD do The Caretaker better than The Caretaker does!

I can't really diss it because I don't hate it at all but Yaeji seems overrated as hell to me. There's just not much going on musically and lyrically... every song seems she runs out of ideas and she just resorts to repeating words in the same monotonic voice.

Again, I don't hate it but I don't see what's so special about it either or why she's making it into so many EOY best songs lists.

Ok I'm done taking those out of my chest... I think... those are the ones frustrating me about their roaring approval.

Well, those an Bodak Yellow heh

i rate the yaeji EPs (2 isn't as good imo) but found it pretty easy to get burned out on her stuff. Not much replay value as there's not a whole lot of depth, ya

laurel halo album was a disappointment for me, way too esoteric and weird for weird sake

Xxp Kirby has a concept, though. Granduciel is walking in socks over cold coals.

I still don't really get what everyone liked so much about Black Beatles. I don't hate it, just does nothing much for me.

I think this is the first Laurel Halo album I like mainly on the strength of Moontalk alone but yes... it's way too dependent on its own quirks and weirdness.

moontalk is an amazing song! yeah

moka check out the king felix stuff if you haven't heard it, "spring" by king felix and her halo album "king felix"

I did not know about that project. Listening to spring now and it sounds amazing! Thanks for the recommendation.

:) sweet

the Fever Ray album was really disappointing to me

why? show your work :)

Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)

Fever Ray was also so-so for me. I like the knife and the first fever ray album a lot, so I thought for sure this would be one of my favorite albums of the year but alas it ended being one of the most dissapointing ones for me. It’s just so hard to sit through... even harder than ‘shaking the habitual’ and that’s saying something.

I can get past the hamfisted lyrics (either way lyrics has never been her strong point), but the textures and production are sort of uninteresting too, the middle of the album is specially boring or annoying and contains some of her worst songs ever (“this country” really wtf is up with that).

I don’t know... I guess it’s just alright in small doses but I don’t want ‘just alright’ from her.

Ok maybe the production isn’t uninteresting... but it’s too harsh and irritating more often than not. I get that maybe that was her intent with this particular album but I’m not a masochist, sorry.

Yeah, my love for the first Fever Ray album is immense, this one is not bAd exactly, just very disappointing

yeah I agree with all of that Moka

the production mostly feels like lesser retreads of Silent Shout and the Fever Ray s/t, and the songwriting lacks the memorable melodies. the lyrics are a step down too - Silent Shout especially could be quite evocative but they're more hamfisted here and the BDSM subject matter of some of it is completely uninteresting to me

Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)

heh this = lack of money > money

King Krule was the overrated hype of the year for me. Could barely get through that mess 3 times.

So I will probably dig his next record :P

Fever ray album is fucking great, just took time to grow on me. I mean it's not that different texturally from
The debut it's just more hyper kinetic arrangement wise. Give it some time, mustn't hurry

I’ve been thinking about that for decades — I thought maybe someday I would write that article but I doubt that is in the cards for me now. But where tf did it come from???

I was in NE OH so it got at least that far.

I hate that song so much, I always thought it was by someone much lamer like Peter Wolf or somebody.

The Tommy James original isn’t even very good imo. I’ve wondered if the chant could have originated w that one but I can’t imagine that’s the case considering how totally 80s and crass it was.

ok now I wanna apply the historic-geographic method to this example of urban folklore transmission.

here's a fascinating 1989 Google Group archive link

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.misc/c/ZSEtxLaPhfw?pli=1

In the last few weeks, there have been a few articles in the Chicago Tribune
by the (some say smarmy) Tempo columnist Bob Greene, talking about a popular
obscene chant which is chanted by youngsters during the song "Mony Mony" (but
of course he can't/won't print it in the newspaper).

and later:

I cannot answere the question in full, but I have heard this chant at certain
college parties in Boston (aprox. 1-1.5 yrs ago). It is not really chanted
to the tune of the song. Instead, it occurs between the verses in the
heavily percussive passages of the Billy Idol version.

This will be of interest

Listen to Billy Idol explains the origins of the special audience lyrics for "Mony Mony" by alancross on #SoundCloud
https://on.soundcloud.com/HjpoD9xV5RkS48rR6

i have to chime in here for 2 reasons:
1- total non-sequitor, exactly my bag
and 2- because this is a perfect example of my years ago abandoned idea of starting the thread "make a song lyric more profane." i was very serious because of irl examples like this, but also shied away from it because it is definitely in bad taste.

[but also kinda funny sometimes? think of all the ways go west has been repurposed into regrettable football chants. and there was a rather gross, and subsequently quite popular, one associated with lisa loeb stay that i recall from my neck of the woods. those are the kinda stories i was looking for.]

Most of the things praised by rym and contemporary pop enthusiasts

I asked a coworker who graduated from hs in 87 (Chicago burbs) what her classmates chanted during the BI Mony Mony and she immediately came up with the right chant. Meanwhile, in NE OH around the same time, I was 13 at the teen dance club hearing the same thing. So it had to have originated before 87 and spread to the midwest/Rust Belt somehow without the internet.

I'm still intrigued!

It's so hard/unpleasant to google tho :(

We were doing it in suburban Twin Cities in the late 80s

That Sky Ferreira song sounds like something I heard 30 years ago while browsing in Tower Records and decided wasn’t worth spending $5 on the CD single.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 6 December 2024 21:01 (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

literally one of the best main pop girl songs in years. jorge elbrecht and sky what a team. annoying take

(my take is probably also annoying granted lol)

I've heard Chappell Roan songs I liked but that H-O-T-T-O-G-O song is a war crime.

it’s for children (value neutral judgment)

Leash and Good Luck Babe basically next to each other in the nominations playlist is one hell of a moment for me and the 2024 pop narrative

Waaaaait a sec. Good Luck Babe is Viva La Vida

so much for me and that song lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI2_l-OfAAM

sick blend imo sounds like fake hounds of love

Oslo: y'all miss Grimes that much huh

fuck autocorrect, meant oklou, but sure Oslo too

can i enjoy oklou if i've only heard one Grimes song ever

No

puzzled to find out there are some 30 people on other music website who think the last track is reminiscent of "baggy"

boring album anyway, but then i would think that

she doesn’t sound like grimes at all to me

Seems like a good place and time to restate my controversial opinion that--To Cy & Lee excluded--Alabaster DePlume makes objectively terrible music

Paul, I might be coming around to that opinion. I still love Cy and Lee and some of his other albums have a few good moments, but I sampled much of the one that came out yesterday and, oof, that is not for me.

I don’t get Brat. I tried and tried but her persona leaves me cold. Giving up, it’s not for me.

I thought it her Wish/New Adventures in Hi-Fi style early 30s ur-XCX album, not a formal breakthrough but 'here's a bit of everything I've ever done and done well'. Then it broke through massively and iirc MC commented it was the most radical pop album in years (would love to read a piece on that), so yeah.

Incidentally I 'designed' a friend's sleeve in 2016 that looks much the same.

I think Charli is a cool artist, I really liked her SNL performances, but I just don’t connect with most of her music, aside from a few songs (I loved the “Sympathy Is a Knife” remix with Ariana… and not just because Ariana was on it, lol)

Meanwhile, don’t think I’ve ever been as nonplussed by the success of a major pop artist as I am with Sabrina Carpenter. Even with someone like Katy Perry, at least I can understand how a certain person would think those songs are bangers, or whatever.

It’s actually kind of disorienting… as a fan of other pop vocalists, when I hear people saying derisive/dismissive things about modern pop generally, it’s like… that’s how I feel about Sabrina, she actually fits (to me) the bill of what they’re talking about. I know taste is subjective and all that, but it makes me question some fundamental aspects of shared taste with other fans of similar music.

Carpenter and Roan were big hits in our house, we all liked them. I was feeling kinda hip for keeping up with pop culture and thought I could handle Charli. I am not cool enough for Charli.

not really a dis but i listened to brat and thought it was really good radio pop. radio pop isn't what i choose to listen to most of the time, but for what it is: it beats the everloving everything out of most of its main competitors and i don't mind hearing "apple" in the grocery store. the beats were also mildly and pleasantly reminiscent of art angels to me, so there's that.

i guess what i'm trying to say is that i still think it's being greatly overrated, despite being decent.

also sorry forgot the most important part―――
cow i choose not to listen to radio pop because i too am old. it's okay lol.

Every so often I try with LDR. Recently because my sister made a playlist that had some songs on there. She's a bad singer and her music is pastiche.

I guess I like Charli ok but I don't understand trying over and over with pop music. It's a pretty immediate evaluation with pop songs. Not like jazz or prog metal or whatever where it doesn't sink in til the 8th listen.

It's ok there's nothing wrong with your taste it just isn't your thing.

otm, I don't think the highly individualized/subjective preferences re: vocal timbre/style/tone etc are really taken into account as much as they should be. the most convincing explanation for baffling-to-me dislikes has always been "I can't stand the voice"

(specifically X-Ray Spex and Neil Young, both of which I love but I get why the vocals are a dealbreaker for some)

I think even sometimes it gets into territory where some pop star's voice reminds you of that mean 2nd grade teacher or 8th grade bully, and you just can't hang

I was pummeled with a lot of Katy and Taylor while raising my daughters and I eventually found songs by them that I liked a lot.

It took me a few listens to click with Carpenter.

Charli gives me Paris Hilton cringe vibes, though I assume her schtick is ironic.

I was so taken with her on SNL, performing on that bare set to a prerecorded track in a Lou Reed New York shirt…

i knew nothing about charli until a year or two ago, but i like her fine as a pop artist. honestly, most pop is really just whether it jives with you!!

i like a few Taylor Swift songs, but the overwhelming vibe i get from her is "blonde teenager with their well-off parents at Costco."

it's pronounced like "bahn eye vur" and it's the worst sub-weather channel muzak i'll ever hear.

the one song of his I heard sounded like Coldplay but more “serious” and not as good

xp

Pretty sure he pronounces it "bone ee vair" but the rest is probably true.

see, i knew that. but i said it wrong on purpose to be intentionally disrespectful and this is the thread for that.👍🏻

also brimstead i'm having a hard time trying to imagine anyone who can out-serious this figure:
https://i.imgur.com/zShjddY.jpeg

i mean in that photo alone, i mistook him for a librarian.

if coldplay and bon iver have collab'd and i haven't heard it, i'm mad about that btw.

...but also i'm not gonna go look for it.

they should definitely collab and harmonize WHOOOs

I like him on that one Taylor Swift song, otherwise just not interested.

don't wanna be a wet blanket in the thread for them and they're not necessarily a "hyped" release at least not yet but is this a safe space where I can talk shit about Real Lies

I totally get their appeal but they're so irritatingly tryhard

my review of the latest by andre3k:

HE DOESN'T COVER "PIANO MAN"?????