thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

let's keep it in here, folks.

Jlin - if I wanted to hear a quantized sample of a CD skipping, I'd listen to an Oval CD from 1999

Caretaker - this is just a bunch of thrift store record samples

Oh yay I can post here AND in 'vent your bullshit'! Maybe the latter can be non-2017-specific though

yes this is just to keep your attention during the EOY poll, submitted with love

Bjork - I found this slow, gloomy, and unengaging. her mix that she did for Mixmag (?) was great, though.

*warms up FPing finger*

happy to help!

this is a safe space

;-)

Caretaker - this is just a bunch of thrift store record samples

otm, I've never understood the hype.

Angel olsens new one gets seriously dire in the second half. Love her but hate to say it's a bummer record

i'll just get this out of the way: most of the 2017 music is bad

Caretaker's not hyped though. It's got a steady following, but that's something else iirc.

Anyway I can't get enough of it.

no defences of albums itt imo

I've said this elsewhere I'm sure but the Julien Baker love-in is an album late; the new one is flat and mostly a disappointment

Where's the fun in that? xp

OK fine

but no holds barred. except like actual bigotry

KING KRULE is kind of boring.

oh yeah I can't take his voice for a second

Not as boring as The National though

That Big Thief album is boring as well. A charisma vacuum.

:o you're dead to me

I do like the Big Thief album a lot :(

LCD Soundsystem should be banned on the basis of that atrocious album cover alone. The music stinks, is completely irrelevant up to the point of self-charicture, and seeing critics hailing this has-been baffles me.

*caricature

thoroughly agree with every dis so far btw*. sleeve ur emperor palpatine

*not heard the bjork or big thief yet

Guided By Voices - the songs are twice as long and half as good (tbh I dunno how hyped this really was, but let's open the thread up to all contenders regardless of hype level/EOY standings)

I tried listening to the War on Drugs album once and I had to check the album wasn't starting over at some point. Still can't remember any of the songs in there.

@Moka, same here. It's drab.

Lorde is the new Carly Rae Jepsen - "pop" music that non-professionals spit out after a single taste, but which critics will continue to ride for forever.

Xp that is sort of the point with WoD - it's aural valium for the inhibited and the terminally nostalgic.

Me included.

Sounds like WoD do The Caretaker better than The Caretaker does!

I can't really diss it because I don't hate it at all but Yaeji seems overrated as hell to me. There's just not much going on musically and lyrically... every song seems she runs out of ideas and she just resorts to repeating words in the same monotonic voice.

Again, I don't hate it but I don't see what's so special about it either or why she's making it into so many EOY best songs lists.

Ok I'm done taking those out of my chest... I think... those are the ones frustrating me about their roaring approval.

Well, those an Bodak Yellow heh

i rate the yaeji EPs (2 isn't as good imo) but found it pretty easy to get burned out on her stuff. Not much replay value as there's not a whole lot of depth, ya

laurel halo album was a disappointment for me, way too esoteric and weird for weird sake

Xxp Kirby has a concept, though. Granduciel is walking in socks over cold coals.

I still don't really get what everyone liked so much about Black Beatles. I don't hate it, just does nothing much for me.

I think this is the first Laurel Halo album I like mainly on the strength of Moontalk alone but yes... it's way too dependent on its own quirks and weirdness.

moontalk is an amazing song! yeah

moka check out the king felix stuff if you haven't heard it, "spring" by king felix and her halo album "king felix"

I did not know about that project. Listening to spring now and it sounds amazing! Thanks for the recommendation.

:) sweet

the Fever Ray album was really disappointing to me

why? show your work :)

Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)

Fever Ray was also so-so for me. I like the knife and the first fever ray album a lot, so I thought for sure this would be one of my favorite albums of the year but alas it ended being one of the most dissapointing ones for me. It’s just so hard to sit through... even harder than ‘shaking the habitual’ and that’s saying something.

I can get past the hamfisted lyrics (either way lyrics has never been her strong point), but the textures and production are sort of uninteresting too, the middle of the album is specially boring or annoying and contains some of her worst songs ever (“this country” really wtf is up with that).

I don’t know... I guess it’s just alright in small doses but I don’t want ‘just alright’ from her.

Ok maybe the production isn’t uninteresting... but it’s too harsh and irritating more often than not. I get that maybe that was her intent with this particular album but I’m not a masochist, sorry.

Yeah, my love for the first Fever Ray album is immense, this one is not bAd exactly, just very disappointing

yeah I agree with all of that Moka

the production mostly feels like lesser retreads of Silent Shout and the Fever Ray s/t, and the songwriting lacks the memorable melodies. the lyrics are a step down too - Silent Shout especially could be quite evocative but they're more hamfisted here and the BDSM subject matter of some of it is completely uninteresting to me

Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)

heh this = lack of money > money

King Krule was the overrated hype of the year for me. Could barely get through that mess 3 times.

So I will probably dig his next record :P

Fever ray album is fucking great, just took time to grow on me. I mean it's not that different texturally from
The debut it's just more hyper kinetic arrangement wise. Give it some time, mustn't hurry

so no hype obviously

I'm very hyped for the new Kim Deal!

also thought she sounded great singing all of Pod and Last Splash last month

It took Chappell a bit to click with me but I’m fully on board. I MUCH prefer her to Janelle, who I also like.

Chappell’s songs sweep me up in the moment and the emotional rush/crash. Like classic Springsteen, some of her best songs are these perfect short stories where you’re given just enough info to make it real and relatable but it feels specific, based on something.

Janelle starts getting closer to that on her last album but it still feels like Acting. Which isn’t bad, but there’s an emotional remove there.

chappell on snl was the first time that i have enjoyed an musical performance on that show in...a long time. i thought it was great.

Hearing Roan's "Hot to Go" played at a wedding's dance party portion (and seeing youngins dancing and singing along) finally won me over to her.

i still don't really get the hype about last year's chappell album but "good luck babe" is wonderful and i'm excited to hear what she does next

the album's uneven, has too many ballads, and 'femininomenon' is children's music. but it's a stone-cold classic on the strength of the three mega bangers 'red wine supernova', 'hot to go' and 'pink pony club' alone imo

it also has "Casual" on it, maybe my favorite song of hers ... tho "Red Wine" and "Pink Pony" are pretty unstoppable.

These Kim Deal songs are ok by me. The first one sounds like Chastity Belt, which is not a bad thing.

yeah "casual" is the best chappell roan song i m o

i think the ballads on the cr record are good, 'coffee and kaleidoscope' specifically. femininomenon is a kids bop but i'm ok with that. 'my kink is karma' is my fav. the new one sounds awesome, shania is an inspired move for her. start as a pop star and go country, do a reverse taylor swift - power move.

Is this the right place for my “Chappell Roan is mid” takes?

― DJP, Friday, November 15, 2024 8:14 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Dan! no likey her singing voice? it sends me tbh.

i do like most of the ballads on the cr album ftr, i just think it’s got a pacing problem. two or three too fewer ballads, swap in ‘good luck babe’ and a couple more mid or uptempo songs and it’s a 10

hmm yeah it does flag a little

I think she is a decent-enough singer, I just find her completely exhausting and have no desire to listen to her

i kinda hope the new album isn’t all country and ‘she gets the job done’ is evidence that it’ll be a smorgasbord/dress up game of different styles

I'm certain that'll be the case

I think she is a decent-enough singer, I just find her completely exhausting and have no desire to listen to her

― DJP, Monday, November 18, 2024 4:06 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

honestly i'm exhausted by her too since i had to play those songs every weekend all summer long.

I think Roan's theatre kid background is a strength in a lot of her songs - her sense of urgency and drama gives them an emotional heft that makes into more than just meme punchlines and Tiktok soundbites. I can see why she would be exhausting to some people and I don't disagree that there are too many ballads on the album. "Guilty Pleasure" is the winner for me though.

The Monae comparions are interesting to me. I think she's coming at capital-P Performance with a view to being like Prince or Stevie Wonder - where it's deliberately crowd-pleasing, leans in on the cheese at times, very likeable. Whereas Roan seems more like an accidental spectacle - she's relatable and fun but she's doing it (or trying to be perceived as doing it) on her own terms, rather than successfully being deliberately endearing. In the Roan thread she's compared to Katy Perry but I don't get the same eager-to-please vibe from her.

I only * quite like * the recent Cure album. There, I've said it.

One way in which the comparative brevity works against it is that when I play it on repeat, it ends too soon. I’m hitting some of these songs too many times and burning out on them.

(Of course, ask me which ones and I can’t tell you because every time I think I’m sick of one of the songs on the album, some other part of it leaps out at me and I’m right back in the tank for it)

xpost u fiend

While I've enjoyed some of the recent post-punk revival stuff in recent years, I'll admit to being a little baffled about what folks find so special about the new Fontaines D.C. album that it keeps popping up on year-end lists.

People hoping for a New Romantic revival?

Every album of theirs has been less interesting than the one before.

That Sky Ferreira song sounds like something I heard 30 years ago while browsing in Tower Records and decided wasn’t worth spending $5 on the CD single.

So on par with the rest of Sky Ferreira’s material?

old convo but i was converted to CR because i got one of her songs stuck in my head without realizing it was her ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

i still know nothing about her besides her big hits, but it truly goes to show that with me, hearing the music untainted by preconceptions and biases is always the best way to hear it.

the other day at work, Billy Idol’s “Mony Mony” came on a playlist and it gave me a wild hair to make a playlist of songs that involved the word “pony,” and the first one i thought of was “Pink Pony Club”

The BI version of that song comes with a side order of lewd screaming where I’m from. Same or no?

Definitely the same here

It ended being banned from our high school dances because of it actually

I remember hearing it at a teen dance club for kids aged 13-18 and it was quite an awakening

Maybe 17 — I was on the younger side but there were mullets and mustaches aplenty there

What's weird (I remember that too) is how a thing like that spreads. Who started it? Did it begin at one high school (on, I don't know, Long Island) and gradually metastasize around the Northeast?

I’ve been thinking about that for decades — I thought maybe someday I would write that article but I doubt that is in the cards for me now. But where tf did it come from???

I was in NE OH so it got at least that far.

I hate that song so much, I always thought it was by someone much lamer like Peter Wolf or somebody.

The Tommy James original isn’t even very good imo. I’ve wondered if the chant could have originated w that one but I can’t imagine that’s the case considering how totally 80s and crass it was.

ok now I wanna apply the historic-geographic method to this example of urban folklore transmission.

here's a fascinating 1989 Google Group archive link

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.misc/c/ZSEtxLaPhfw?pli=1

In the last few weeks, there have been a few articles in the Chicago Tribune
by the (some say smarmy) Tempo columnist Bob Greene, talking about a popular
obscene chant which is chanted by youngsters during the song "Mony Mony" (but
of course he can't/won't print it in the newspaper).

and later:

I cannot answere the question in full, but I have heard this chant at certain
college parties in Boston (aprox. 1-1.5 yrs ago). It is not really chanted
to the tune of the song. Instead, it occurs between the verses in the
heavily percussive passages of the Billy Idol version.

This will be of interest

Listen to Billy Idol explains the origins of the special audience lyrics for "Mony Mony" by alancross on #SoundCloud
https://on.soundcloud.com/HjpoD9xV5RkS48rR6

i have to chime in here for 2 reasons:
1- total non-sequitor, exactly my bag
and 2- because this is a perfect example of my years ago abandoned idea of starting the thread "make a song lyric more profane." i was very serious because of irl examples like this, but also shied away from it because it is definitely in bad taste.

[but also kinda funny sometimes? think of all the ways go west has been repurposed into regrettable football chants. and there was a rather gross, and subsequently quite popular, one associated with lisa loeb stay that i recall from my neck of the woods. those are the kinda stories i was looking for.]

Most of the things praised by rym and contemporary pop enthusiasts

I asked a coworker who graduated from hs in 87 (Chicago burbs) what her classmates chanted during the BI Mony Mony and she immediately came up with the right chant. Meanwhile, in NE OH around the same time, I was 13 at the teen dance club hearing the same thing. So it had to have originated before 87 and spread to the midwest/Rust Belt somehow without the internet.

I'm still intrigued!

It's so hard/unpleasant to google tho :(

We were doing it in suburban Twin Cities in the late 80s

That Sky Ferreira song sounds like something I heard 30 years ago while browsing in Tower Records and decided wasn’t worth spending $5 on the CD single.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 6 December 2024 21:01 (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

literally one of the best main pop girl songs in years. jorge elbrecht and sky what a team. annoying take

(my take is probably also annoying granted lol)

I've heard Chappell Roan songs I liked but that H-O-T-T-O-G-O song is a war crime.

it’s for children (value neutral judgment)

Leash and Good Luck Babe basically next to each other in the nominations playlist is one hell of a moment for me and the 2024 pop narrative

Waaaaait a sec. Good Luck Babe is Viva La Vida

so much for me and that song lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI2_l-OfAAM

sick blend imo sounds like fake hounds of love