Pop vs. Rock = Radio vs. Record collection?

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...so, in most people's analysis, pop vs rock turned out to be a polarity of types of fandom, rather than of exact musical genres, was that the general gist? that's what I'd say anyway - like for inst. , a kid who likes all those tattoos-&-shorts kinda bands is a pop fan but a guy who buys old '60s pop singles in 2nd hand shops is a rock fan... "pop fan" means (mostly) radio listener & "rock fan" means record collector (the implication of MOJO-reader squareness that the word "collector" has, too, that seemed to be there in most people's idea of what "rock" means now)...so which are you, mostly?

― duane zarakov, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm a rock fan, Mojo-squareness and all (at what point did being curious about older music become a bad thing ?) - and so is most of ILM, if the poll can be trusted.

― Patrick, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd hope being curious about older music never becomes a bad thing, I just hope that people don't think it's automatically better.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I find a morbid butterfly collection aspect to most kinds of collecting including records... Though with records the owner can set them in motion for brief moments, like the mad scientist with bodies suspended in tanks... push a button and the limbs dance a perfect waltz... "so lifelike" he mutters, a bemused smile flickering on his lips. And then he shoves them all back into their cardboard coffins.

A record collection is filled only with approved texts. There's a kind of feudal ownership going on - the collector's taste is the guard at the gate - none but "X" may pass. Radio stations will play this role too ("all the rock, none of the rap") but I like the unexpected, I like not owning it. mp3s (and the search tech behind them) are terrible at delivering unexpected shocks.

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

mp3s (and the search tech behind them) are terrible at delivering unexpected shocks.

Don't know about that. Probably anyone who's downloaded more than 10 songs from Napster has ended up with a song that was something other than what it was labelled.

― proton, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

True, but that's technically a failure of the system, not its functioning.

If radio = pop and records = rock, what does Napster =?

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

folktronic?

― Nick, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I dunno but I always thought it funny that record stores have a pop/rock section. It seems like this merger represents the castration of rock as a threatening form of expression.Or does it represent the erecting of the cock of society? Soon enough there will be a section called pop/rock/rap . THen mayeb rock/paper/scissors. I think of musical genres as sort of illogical, yet unavoidable.

― Mike Hanley, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There are some things you can get from radio around here, but unexpected shocks sure ain't one of 'em (not musical ones, at least).

― Patrick, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

To take the question literally, I listen to my records a *lot* more than I listen to any music radio. But I still think of myself as a pop fan rather than a rock fan, if you have to divide. Hmmm. I guess my pop fan side comes through in the fact that, when Outkast's "Ms. Jackson" started to break through from Tim Westwood to the daytime Radio 1 playlist, when I heard Chris Moyles playing Mark B and Blade, I felt profoundly delighted and uplifted and gratified that The Nation had embraced something I'd loved for quite a while; I didn't feel a trace of bitterness that "young kids" would now be consuming it, and I would assume such snobbery / elitism to be very much a rock fan's attitude.

― Robin Carmody, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

eleven months pass...

All that's ever played on the radio is shit. I have to listen to 6 hours a week on my school bus journeys and quite frankly I have to take my Discman to stay alive.

― Anna Rose, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

revive

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 9 June 2003 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

*music struggles weakly out of coffin, gasps fresh free air of life, chokes on own atrophied respiratory muscles, collapses*

try a saving throw

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 9 June 2003 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

(*rolls dice*)
"Botched. Music takes 6,000 hit points of damage."

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 9 June 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 9 June 2003 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, we were all expecting a big guy in red to drop by this christmas and eat out cookies and milk...but...

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 9 June 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

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Music had to die. It mocked me. That cannot be allowed.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 9 June 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.cyberbeach.net/~enigma/pers/pictures/images/thebite.jpg

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 9 June 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

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