Bands whose fans were their own subculture

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This doesn't happen all that often,
but i'm thinking about acts like Insane Clown Posse, whose fans the 'juggalos' dress in a specific way and identify as fans of said band rather than simply metal or hip hop fans.

When I was much younger I'd notice tall skinny dudes with shaved heads and black clothes sporting NIN logos on the backs of their jackets. No doubt these guys listened to other music but it was always NIN and they struck me as a subculture in their own right

In central and South America there's a hard core of adamant Smiths fans who, again, identify as worshippers at the church of Morrissey.

Does this sort of thing still happen? What does it take for an act to transcend being simply part of a genre and start being followed like a cult with its own specific subject of fans who dress and behave in a certain way? Any other examples out there?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 12:09 (seven years ago)

KISS Army
Deadheads, Phishheads, Dave Matthews Band fans. Yes, all jam bands and probably more blended these days, but at least in the 1990s they all had distinct characteristics.

how's life, Saturday, 4 August 2018 12:19 (seven years ago)

also all much much bigger in the States than on the other side of the pond, strangely

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:00 (seven years ago)

are DMB fans recognisable as a fan genre

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:01 (seven years ago)

?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:01 (seven years ago)

milli vanilli
minor threat

calstars, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:09 (seven years ago)

xp: eh, maybe less so than the other others I mentioned. I dunno. Definitely not a visually distinct look, except in contrast to other jam band fans. Our sobriquet for them was "whitecaps" after the white baseball hats that were common among their fans in the mid-90s. a "norm-core" vibe. I know they do have extremely dedicated fans though.

how's life, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:26 (seven years ago)

could've just called this thread "Terrible people" and saved a few words

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:32 (seven years ago)

Throbbing Gristle maybe?

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:36 (seven years ago)

Parrotheads

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:36 (seven years ago)

Manic Street Preachers?

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:36 (seven years ago)

Parrotheads

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, August 4, 2018 9:36 AM (seven seconds ago)


^otmfm

RONG Blecch Limo Wreck (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:37 (seven years ago)

GWAR

earlnash, Saturday, 4 August 2018 13:59 (seven years ago)

definitely Manics in the nineties

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 14:00 (seven years ago)

The Cramps
Mothers of Invention

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:30 (seven years ago)

ahem

imago, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:44 (seven years ago)

there's no Cardiacs dress code* as such but everything else fits

*except for The Flower

imago, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:45 (seven years ago)

imago - Do you call yourself Juters? Gytists?

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:47 (seven years ago)

some good photos of numanoids here: http://www.numanme.co.uk/numanme/Numanoids-FAN.htm

soref, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:55 (seven years ago)

A friend went to a Manics fan convention in an exhibition centre in about 2000. The band weren't there, maybe Richie was, I dunno.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 4 August 2018 16:00 (seven years ago)

HAWKWIND's hawklords

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 4 August 2018 16:05 (seven years ago)

there was once this Bay area psych band "The Grateful Dead" had a small but devoted cult following

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 August 2018 16:09 (seven years ago)

imago I'm gonna clean the basement today and dig into the Cardiacs

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 August 2018 16:10 (seven years ago)

Nagomu Girls: coalesced around a label started by the singer of the band Uchoten in 1983, a post-punk, goth-girl fashion and music subculture that formed the roots of several later, more well-known factions, goth-lola, early Shibuya-Kei, Fruits magazine, that sort of thing.

MaresNest, Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:44 (seven years ago)

http://www.coltranechurch.org/

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:47 (seven years ago)

The Stranglers

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:15 (seven years ago)

The Jam

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:15 (seven years ago)

Depeche Mode

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:15 (seven years ago)

Jimmy Buffet? They all seem to come from Florida and use Hawaiian shirts and flower collars.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:51 (seven years ago)

Oh wait, those are the parrotheads aren’t they? They’ve already been mentioned. Sorry.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:52 (seven years ago)

I’m pretty sure we have a dozen of those in latinamerica but I’m blanking out right now.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:59 (seven years ago)

radiohead

macropuente (map), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:06 (seven years ago)

sonic youth

macropuente (map), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:07 (seven years ago)

I wasn't aware of a Stranglers subculture- something distinct from early punk?

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:09 (seven years ago)

unless:

https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-14719399-casual-worker-using-computer-desk-creative-office

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:14 (seven years ago)

yeah i think this is one of those things where there's really only a half dozen or so real examples, they've all been named already, and we should stop now before thread devolves to just "bands who have fans"

mortal kombats fill your eyes (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:20 (seven years ago)

the (early-era) who certainly fit here, no?

lâche pas la patate (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:24 (seven years ago)

Turbonegro - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbojugend
Black Label Society? Seems to be a lifestyle thing for a lot of people for some obscure reason.

Category: Animist Rock (Matt #2), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:33 (seven years ago)

Grateful dead

F# A# (∞), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:34 (seven years ago)

the (early-era) who certainly fit here, no?


I would argue not. Mod was a thriving subculture for at least a year before the Who (or/aka the High Numbers) started gigging. They simply latched onto (some would not-unreasonably argue exploited) mod.

Though it’s true that later mods — in Australia in ‘67-‘68, the “mod revival” in England in the late ‘70s, various pockets of anglophiles in the US in the early ‘80s — took the early Who as a jumping-off point.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)

OTM.

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 August 2018 20:03 (seven years ago)

Afrika Bambaata

Siegbran, Saturday, 4 August 2018 21:10 (seven years ago)

Insane Clown Posse

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 4 August 2018 21:31 (seven years ago)

Bambaata/Zulu Nation is a really good example

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 August 2018 21:42 (seven years ago)

afrika bambaata ?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:11 (seven years ago)

afrika bambaata ?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:11 (seven years ago)

http://new.zulunation.com

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:13 (seven years ago)

ADAM AND THE ANTS - even Darby Crash fell into it.

whitehallunity, Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:29 (seven years ago)

Slipknot maggots

Duane Barry, Saturday, 4 August 2018 22:39 (seven years ago)

feel like there's one group I can't put my finger on. they dress kinda like clowns, and they rap

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 February 2024 22:12 (two years ago)

You gotta narrow that down. How is their mental health?

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 12 February 2024 23:08 (two years ago)

Has there ever been a Parrothead who was also a Juggalo?

A JugParrot. Wastin' away again in Insane Posse-ville.

― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, September 2, 2023 10:15 AM (five months ago)

I'm too lazy to look for it, but I swear an ilxor told a story about wandering through the outdoor patio scene when both Buffett and ICP were playing on the same night, and he overheard the pre-gaming Parrotheads obliviously cracking jokes, like "what are these clowns all dressed up for?"

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 00:16 (two years ago)

A Juggalo Looks at (a) 40

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 01:37 (two years ago)

I am workshopping a new band name, please help

Sane Clown Posse

Insane Clown Pussy Riot

Faster PosseCat

Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 04:08 (two years ago)

Maybe I left some words out, but The Mad Riot Puffins ? Your fans would be the Puffaloes. I feel we are getting closer to something unprecedented, let's think hard.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 08:31 (two years ago)

https://greenvillejournal.com/arts-culture/upstate-beat-sister-hazel-counts-on-hazelnuts-for-upstate-gig/

I only know this is a thing because someone I knew once referred to themselves as a Hazelnut and I don't think I ever cringed more fiercely in my life.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 13:42 (two years ago)

As I am sure you are all aware, Korn got their start by playing formal dances, called Kornballs.

Sane clown posse (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:14 (two years ago)

oh my god Hazelnuts that is the greatest

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:28 (two years ago)

Trying to think of a sadder band to stan for.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:40 (two years ago)

Nickelbackers.

Sane clown posse (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:52 (two years ago)

Hüsker Düers. Rüsted Rooters. Milli Vanillists. Cutting Crewmen. Bizketeers.

O wait... Children of the Korn.

Sane clown posse (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:55 (two years ago)

The Maroon Fivesome

Sane clown posse (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:56 (two years ago)

The Fishmansons

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 16:03 (two years ago)

David Grayniacs

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 16:05 (two years ago)

Canadian Mike Watt fans, the fIREHOSErs

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 16:10 (two years ago)

428 posts and no mention of Insane Clown Posse?

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:00 (two years ago)

it is always a surprise to still see ppl rep so hard for Turbonegro

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:28 (two years ago)

maybe they have erection

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:45 (two years ago)

it is always a surprise to still see ppl rep so hard for Turbonegro


in like 2005?

brimstead, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:57 (two years ago)

The Turbonegronis

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 21:40 (two years ago)

Iirc Henley/Frey fans call themselves Eaglets

Sane clown posse (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 23:53 (two years ago)

imagine... you're a young eagle.. and your parents are don henley and glenn frey

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 00:06 (two years ago)

one year passes...

the culture/fashion holding pattern thread had me thinking about this question again and about how we still haven't come up with any good examples of this phenomenon

glum mum (map), Wednesday, 2 April 2025 19:05 (ten months ago)

the great unanswered question of ilm

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 2 April 2025 19:05 (ten months ago)

I know it's not a band, but stumbling onto Instagram reels of young people in 2025 keeping the dancing, fashion and social clubs going makes me wonder if "northern soul" might be a response.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 April 2025 19:12 (ten months ago)

any other examples of subcultures that are subcultures?

Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Wednesday, 2 April 2025 19:14 (ten months ago)

Okay, I probably deserved that, but I'm not aware of a subcultures that are still surprisingly thriving thread.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 April 2025 19:15 (ten months ago)

I did hear about this one band that hasn't been mentioned yet. Can't remember their name. I'll get back

DLC Soundsystem (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 April 2025 23:38 (ten months ago)

proud to have made the first clueless ICP double-up itt

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 3 April 2025 00:23 (ten months ago)

Swifties?

ian, Thursday, 3 April 2025 00:54 (ten months ago)

Sure, Swifties are what Taylor Swift fans are called now, but early in her career, her fans mainly identified as fans of the genre "Ingenue Country-Pop," abbreviated ICP.

Or sometimes they used a sobriquet derived from the jugs of water that Swift kept on hand backstage to stay hydrated during her energetic concerts.

I pity the foo fighter (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 April 2025 08:07 (ten months ago)

I heard she branded the water as "Tay-Go"

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Thursday, 3 April 2025 13:49 (ten months ago)

On a microscopic level there were a bunch of hippie-era bands that were simultaneously bands and communes. The Incredible String Band, Gong, Hawkwind etc. but especially The Incredible String Band. Or at least they squatted together and had a circle of followers. Hawkwind was the house band of Frestonia, an independent nation that had its own air, its own transport - bicycles - plus access to water and shops.

What they lacked in numbers they made up for in intensity. Ditto Charles Manson's Family, and to a lesser extent Jim Jones' crew in Jonestown. Jim Jones pioneered the chopped and screwed style and invented purple drank. He was the first black president, predating Bill Clinton by twenty years.

Along similar lines there are probably several hip-hop bands that raise funds on the side by selling drugs and/or killing people, again probably not in huge numbers but what they lack in numbers they make up with the willingness to kill and die for their colours. It is surprising in retrospect how much media in the 1960s was convinced that rock music would become a new world religion, with Mick Jagger leading the children of the world into a new level of consciousness etc.

Which of course didn't happen. I think you need a combination of a solid visual identity, absolute loathing from the mainstream - so you're a rebel, an underdog - and an awesome stream of top music, which is why Iron Maiden had such a strong following. The Insane Clown Posse at least had the first two things. But a religion offers eternal life or at least spiritual salvation, which is something missing from modern music.

Ashley Pomeroy, Thursday, 3 April 2025 21:45 (ten months ago)

“Hip-hop bands”

Crack's Addition (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 3 April 2025 21:48 (ten months ago)

In case anyone is paying attention to that nonsense, the Incredible String Band never squatted anywhere.

Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 April 2025 21:52 (ten months ago)

I just FPd and moved on, but yes

sleeve, Thursday, 3 April 2025 21:55 (ten months ago)

C’mon Ashley is harmless.

Crack's Addition (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 3 April 2025 22:25 (ten months ago)

I admit my annoyance is subjective

sleeve, Thursday, 3 April 2025 22:27 (ten months ago)

the Grateful Dead was basically one giant drug trafficking operation and they probably have some bodies buried somewhere

brimstead, Thursday, 3 April 2025 22:51 (ten months ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/theonion.com/post/3llwxbtowtl23

silverfish, Friday, 4 April 2025 00:15 (ten months ago)

https://theonion.com/artist-profile-morgan-wallen/

Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Friday, 4 April 2025 00:29 (ten months ago)

Ingenue Country-Pop

This is genius btw

DLC Soundsystem (dog latin), Friday, 4 April 2025 12:36 (ten months ago)

thinking about this: what about the Dropkick Murphys? They started out as a Boston street punk band, but have morphed into an Irish pride pop-punk band beloved by middle-aged chuds from the suburbs who absolutely worship them— like it’s definitely a thing, at least in the mid-Atlantic and New England.

i saw them a few times back in the day, but then a few years ago went with a childhood friend (who is no longer a friend, sadly) to see them open for Rancid and I was shocked at the number of people who were there just to see them, and also the correlation of Dropkick fans to Trump stickers on brand new SUVs in the parking lot

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 13 April 2025 23:29 (ten months ago)

That’s a good one. But have you considered Insane Clown Posse?

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Monday, 14 April 2025 00:47 (ten months ago)

and also the correlation of Dropkick fans to Trump stickers on brand new SUVs in the parking lot

Which given the band has been ripping into Trump lately is hopefully causing said fans a lot of cognitive dissonance:

https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/03/20/dropkick-murphys-ken-casey-trump

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 April 2025 03:44 (ten months ago)

a lot of cognitive dissonance

which is how magnets work, iirc

massaman gai (front tea for two), Monday, 14 April 2025 03:58 (ten months ago)

Dropkick fans

or, as they're commonly known in boston, the "irish/celtic processional."

fact checking cuz, Monday, 14 April 2025 04:01 (ten months ago)

Sinatra / Bobby-soxers

unrequested refill (morrisp), Thursday, 24 April 2025 13:47 (ten months ago)

There was a persistent psychobilly subculture in the UK throughout the 80s which I guess was birthed by The Cramps.

fetter, Thursday, 24 April 2025 14:47 (ten months ago)


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