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Before the record-of-the-year nonsense gets underway (or rather before it gets underway anywhere other than ILM, which has talked about little else for months) - what are the albums that have been your biggest disappointments this year?

Criteria - you actually wanted to hear them. You didn't like them as much as you hoped.

Reasons why would be nice too of course.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 November 2002 08:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I think technically it came out in `01, but Nick Cave's NO MORE SHALL WE PART was a tremendous dissapointment for me. It was just lifeless....I know it's ridiculous to think he'd stay the same black-hearted harbinger of doom for the rest of his days, but this album just reaked. No spark at all.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 15 November 2002 08:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Mine are -

Interpol: I'd probably have checked them out anyway because I'm a sucker for hype but I had actual expectations cos "NYC" is so good. Unfortunately the rest of it is scrappy and sketchy, "Studies For Young Men And Record Collection, No.s 1-13". The Smiths pastiche is particularly horrible. Grebt guitar noise on track 1!

Oxide And Neutrino: They're back with some incredible future funk, great! (70 mins later) Why is it all so fucking SLOW??

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 November 2002 09:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Amon Tobin - a bit too murky and backseated esp. compared to prior release.
Akufen - few stellar tracks aside, the micro-cut up radio thing lost its luster pretty quickly
Jean Grae - elsewhere she was equal parts off-beat and venemous but her own record was undistinguished lo-finess with unfortunate preachy bits.
Piano Magic - flat, underdeveloped, and some ill-advised vocals, the whole thing reminds me of a bad Jewel video or something.
RJD2 - samples. put together. well. but not in ways that surprised or enthralled me as much as i'd have liked.
Suicide - after really getting into their debut album I couldn't grasp this one. the reverbed vocals and oddly outdated production dilutes the potent starkness I originally liked about them.

yeah and Oxide and Neutrino was a let-down after "Shoot to Kill"'s excellence.

Honda (Honda), Friday, 15 November 2002 09:22 (twenty-three years ago)

oh by cursory listen, the new busta rhymes is an immense step downward from Genesis

Honda (Honda), Friday, 15 November 2002 09:36 (twenty-three years ago)

One of the astonishing things about 2002 is how few disappointments there have been. Record after record has been great. This never used to happen (okay, ILM has helped me stay away from likely disappointments). I'm really struggling to think of something, though. But I'll keep thinking...

Just to put this in perspective, I have bought a few things that came out last year which were hugely disappointing. Notably, that American Analog Set singles and rarities collection - god, that was dire. Why do I listen to recommendations from fellow Stereolab fans? They all have rubbish taste except me! ;)

Jeff W, Friday, 15 November 2002 09:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Low - Trust = 2 or 3 good songs, but not a patch on Secret Name

Flaming Lips - Yoshimi = one great song at the start, and then it's just okay, and they seem to forget about the robot concept halfway through.

I would say the Interpol album, but I should never have got it in the first place.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 15 November 2002 09:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I found the Melt Banana 6" to be extremely weak, compared to their last few releases.

Dave Fischer, Friday, 15 November 2002 09:56 (twenty-three years ago)

the piano magic one, certainly, i knew that was going to be bad beforehand, but risked it anyway

that american analog set thing not worth getting then? some people seemed to think it was good, i had flirted with the idea of getting it

gareth (gareth), Friday, 15 November 2002 10:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Three major disappointments in one week - the Missy E, Jay-Z and TLC albums.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 15 November 2002 10:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Flaming Lips - Yoshimi - The first half was great, all crunchy drum machines and skronky noises. Then it all got really, really boring. And Do You Realise was a dreadful single.

Mr Scruff - Trouser Jazz - Not bad, so to speak, but just not a patch on his debut.

Badly Drawn Boy - Both albums - I loved the first one, but... yawn.

Layo and Bushwacka - Nightworks - Despite two utterly, utterly amazing singles (Let The Good Times Roll and Love Story, obviously), the rest was turgid, polished coffee-table prog/jazz-house. Still love the singles, mind.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 15 November 2002 10:12 (twenty-three years ago)

"Power In Numbers" Jurassic 5. It's like they used up all their ideas doing guest spots elsewhere, and instead decided to put out an album with about as much invention and passion as my right nut.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 15 November 2002 10:12 (twenty-three years ago)

'Geogaddi'. My expectations prob. weren't as high as some ppl's, but however many months on, I'm still totally underwhelmed by it.

I can't agree abt the Missy alb, tho' I think I like the image/packaging as much as the actual rec.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Friday, 15 November 2002 10:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I was disappointed that the music didn't live up to what the image/packaging promised. Still, there's always the Carlin six-month rule, i.e. "what is this rub?" (10,000Hz Legend, Geogaddi) then six months later "greatest album ever made blah ect."

I await the new Nas album with interest.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 15 November 2002 10:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Definitely not the Beck as I still haven't made my mind up on that one.

I think I can safely say that I was a little disappointed by Geogaddi but maybe I should still wait before making such a bold statement. It is less thrilling than previous efforts by Boards of Canada and their idyllic electronica thing has worn out a little I find.

All those new bands starting with "The" in a similar retro vein as The Strokes didn't really disappoint me. I didn't expect anything from them and that is exactly what they delivered.

Bowie made another ok album but nothing to get crazy about.

So in the end nobody really deceived me this year up to now. Weird.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 15 November 2002 10:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Gareth, I think that AAS singles album is quite good. Not as good as their last studio album (forgot the name my brain is a sieve) but still ok. There was also a remix album which was utter rubbish according to the tracks I have heard.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 15 November 2002 10:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Akufen was a major letdown after all the buzz, pret-tee boring IMO.
same goes for RJD2, 2 or 3 good songs, the rest is interchangeable.

"Studies For Young Men And Record Collection, No.s 1-13".
huh? fully crystallised, superbly crafted songs, I think... great "instrumental" timing, if that makes sense. e.g. the way the guitars come in after that dry drum-intro to PDA, gorgeous!
if you're interested (which obv. you are not, Tom, no offence) in the "real" "Studies For Young Men And Record Collection, at least No.s 1-3, search for the ep's on slsk. you can hear PDA go from a sketchy blueprint to the head-on killerversion that appeared on the alb.

willem (willem), Friday, 15 November 2002 10:58 (twenty-three years ago)

The Montgolfier Brothers new one. : (

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 15 November 2002 11:02 (twenty-three years ago)

oh the Wilco one, I like the song about the heavy metal drummer. But the rest was a rubfest.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 15 November 2002 11:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Am I the only person who thinks that Geogaddi is BETTER than MHTRTC?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 15 November 2002 11:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Why did the new Montgolfier Brothers disappoint you, Jerry? Did I exaggerate when I said it was in the league of Five Leaves Left?

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 15 November 2002 11:09 (twenty-three years ago)

AiM: I like the 1st lp so much, almost anything was going to be a disappointment. But I don't like his voice so much on this new one, and nothing touches me (or makes me smile) as much 'Even if my eyes can't tell you' or 'Pro-celeb hanging around'.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 15 November 2002 11:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Queens of the Stone Age and Beck were very disappointing. Beck's one is majorly dull, and very thin in the melodic sense. Who wants him to have a soul anyway? I prefer a bit of shallow fun. But I think we've talked about that one enough elsewhere!

QOTSA's pop touch deserted them a little bit on the new one. Definitely an album that I'd use my stereo's program function on: some good stuff, but lots of drivel.

Geogaddi fell a little short of expectations, but it's still good. Less light on its feet than "Music Has...", but it's murky and rewarding.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 15 November 2002 11:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Listen to it again, Jerry. It sinks in slower than the first one. Pro-celeb... is probably my all-time favourite of theirs though.

The best song on the new one is the closer Inches Away. I think The World Is Flat is more mature and wiser in a way. The overall theme is more serious and less light than on the first.

I enthused about the new one here in my blog if you are interested, Jerry.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 15 November 2002 11:25 (twenty-three years ago)

re: montgolfier brothers...i downloaded a few tracks from the new one (i loved the first lp too) and i was disappointed by them also. seemed to fully formed, like a 'proper band', didnt like the production either. the whole thing lacked the delicateness of the first

gareth (gareth), Friday, 15 November 2002 11:37 (twenty-three years ago)

You are not totally wrong with the delicacy, Gareth. But the new album seems much more profound to me than the first one. Judging an album like this one (and it really is a full album with sequencing being important etc.) by a couple of mp3s you downloaded doesn't seem fair though.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 15 November 2002 11:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I second: Layo and Bushwacka - Nightworks

I expected so much after the debut album, Lowlife. I built my expectations up and then .....crash it just didn't deliver as I wanted/expected.


DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 15 November 2002 11:57 (twenty-three years ago)

THE MOTHERFUCKING EMINEM SHOW

also, piano magic, missy, i fear the new jay-z without even hearing it, rjd2 massive let down considering how much i liked that "def jux baby t" track (dear rjd2: please continue to rip off pete rock, lose the sub-dj shadow "let's take a journey" affectations, as well as the sub-skratch pikl "wackiness." do you really want to be the dj version of tmbg?), i really liked the first track on the interpol album and everything else sounded exactly like tom suggests...

you have to actually be looking forward to something to be disappointed by it (cf. wilco, flaming lips, other high profile magnet "best album of the year" bullshit.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 14:05 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm comforted that I wasn't the only one dissapointed by Akufen. I dislike the term, but that would be my "most overrated" album of the year. Good basslines, but that twiddle-the-radio-dial thing seemed completely pointless to me. Yes, you can make an OK hook stitching togther small radio samples, now how about making a great one with a keyboard and a live vocalist?

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 15 November 2002 14:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Sonic Youth Murray Street- As one of the few people on the planet who actually likes NYC Ghosts & Flowers, I was really looking forward to this. Unfortunatly, all that I got from it was a bunch of unmemorable songs. But it is nicely produced.

V/A- In the Beginning There Was Rhythm- What was sparked in my head when this was announced VS. what Soul Jazz actually pulled off come nothing close to each other. It seems like such a good premise, but they just couldn't come through with it (I'd probably have felt different aboot the comp. had I not already owned a good chunk of it, though).

Vic Funk, Friday, 15 November 2002 14:37 (twenty-three years ago)

i've not heard akufen but i'm getting the picture its basically a poor mans todd edwards?

gareth (gareth), Friday, 15 November 2002 14:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Von Bondies. Big style. First two tracks, magic, but it just falls away all the way after that somehow...

Oh, and put me down for Mr Scruff as well.

Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 15 November 2002 14:38 (twenty-three years ago)

The Akufen album suffers from bad sequencing more than anything else - three good, non-schticky microhouse tracks, followed by "Deck The House", then two tracks that sound exactly like "Deck The House", a couple of tracks that sound basically like "Deck The House", and then a "Psychometry"-esque closer. If it had been more mixed up I think the idea wouldn't have worn out so fast - "In Dog We Trust" for example holds up amazingly well when played on its own, but as the fourth consecutive track in that style it's barely worth noticing in the context of the album.

And any album that has "Skidoos" can't be all bad.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 15 November 2002 14:51 (twenty-three years ago)

exactly what tim f. said.

also "Yes, you can make an OK hook stitching togther small radio samples, now how about making a great one with a keyboard and a live vocalist? "

this totally misses the point.

michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 15 November 2002 14:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Michael -- what is the point of "My Way," do you think?

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 15 November 2002 15:21 (twenty-three years ago)

suede. even my sister (who loved head music which goes to show
how much of a nut she is) turned it off after 4 tracks, and hasn't been able to face going back since.
cost a million, sounds shocking, it's a proper shame.

can we have a reverse thread wherein records u thought might be okay at best, by bands u didn't much care for turned out to be fantastic,
cause mine'd be cornershop's.

piscesboy, Friday, 15 November 2002 15:39 (twenty-three years ago)

here

gareth (gareth), Friday, 15 November 2002 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)

mark - it's about recontextualising. taking a part of something and changing it. in the sleeve notes to the album, leclair talks abt. capturing the moment a sound is born and then dies and i like this idea. i also like the way it says something about the way a person interacts with art and information, reducing it to a series of signifiers.

michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 15 November 2002 15:44 (twenty-three years ago)

sleevenotes? what sleevenotes? i haf no sleevenotes!

I too agree with Tim F about the sequencing/repetitiveness. My Way still stands a good chance of making my Top 10 list at year's end tho'.

Jeff W (Jeff W), Friday, 15 November 2002 15:57 (twenty-three years ago)

oh ! we're doing it already !
it's nothing if not unpredictably
predictable this board.

piscesboy, Friday, 15 November 2002 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I hear you Michael -- I guess I feel like I'm normally pretty tuned into that sort of thing, so much music I enjoy uses those techniques, and Akufen just didn't resonate for me on that level. It sounded like someone flipping the dial on the radio & then sampling & rearranging the sounds, but I have no emotional connection to this kind of sound. It didn't make me think about the process of sound creation or dissemenation AT ALL, it seemed more like an excercise, trying to see if you can make new hooks from tiny parts of other hooks. And if you do that, and I think it's a interesting & even noble endeavor, the hooks have to be REALLY good, at least as good as the originals. And I didn't think these were.

He's not operating in exactly the same sphere, but I think with someone like Herbert, you can take or leave the baggage of his methods and just appreciate the tracks on their own -- they don't ever sound as if they're less than they could have been, despite the rules he makes for himself (no sampling of instruments, etc.) I had that feeling w/ the Akufen record, that he seemed limited by his concept.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 15 November 2002 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark, U&K: what did you think of the first three tracks?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 15 November 2002 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Low's _Trust_. A few good songs (and admittedly, "Canada" is one of their best), but I have found it rough going compared to _Things We Lost..._

mike a (mike a), Friday, 15 November 2002 16:13 (twenty-three years ago)

mark - fair enough. i *do* agree with some of what you say (the album is difficult to listen to as a whole) and the tracks that feel less gimmicky (the first three) are the best things on there. "skidoos" is probably one of my 5 favourite tracks of the year.

michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 15 November 2002 16:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Future Bible Heroes: Eternal Youth.

davidsim, Friday, 15 November 2002 16:28 (twenty-three years ago)

"The Eminem Show" disappointed me.

Loved "No More Shall We Part", though. And the new Missy too!

Sean (Sean), Friday, 15 November 2002 17:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I shouldn't really be surprised given his recent form but I was getting my hopes up for the new Bowie album. It's rubbish.

The Chemical Brothers album is in no way bad but I'm normally still playing their last album by the time their next one comes around.

> Am I the only person who thinks that Geogaddi is BETTER than MHTRTC?

No you're not, I don't understand the disappointment here, though I surprise the thrill of the new has gone.

Mike (mratford), Friday, 15 November 2002 17:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Kompakt Total 4 played away from the label's strengths by chasing after current trends that others do better. Too many weak vocals and dull dancefloor tracks. It had a few high points, but I had come to expect more from Kompakt.

Sutekh Fell - I can't even remember what I heard, just that it was DUD.

Pan American's album was oddly stillborn. It's hard to describe why, because anything you say could be said about his first two. Yet somehow they come to life, and this one never does.

Seaworthy, from Macha's frontman, was so dull I have to wonder whether gamelon exotica was all that Macha had going. Somehow, Macha had a really sensual sound, and without that, Seaworthy, er, sinks.

Neko Case Blacklisted - Canadian Amp was great, but ballads are not her strength.

Also, Studio One Scorcher, Noonday Underground, Sybarite Nonument, Heavy Blinkers, Beth Gibbons (I may need to hear this one again)

File under Magnet AotY Bullshit (although I held out hope they might surprise me or I wouldn't have listened): Enon, J Mascis, Ladytron, Laub, Skeleton Key, St. Etienne

Still, I am not complaining. It's been a good year!

Curt (cgould), Friday, 15 November 2002 17:41 (twenty-three years ago)

i like aimee mann a bunch, but her latest was just incredibly boring.

i was really dissapointed by mr scruff's trouser jazz at first, but it's been growing on me. only one song ("ug") anywhere near as good as the first album, so far...

most things i was after this year have at least been consistently decent. and little has gotten my expectations up high enough that they were dashed by actually listening to it.

bucky wunderlick (bucky), Friday, 15 November 2002 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I was getting my hopes up for the new Bowie album. It's rubbish.

Rubbish! That's a strong word. I actually love "Heathen". I think it's a fine album. Love the new Neko Case too! She's born to sing ballads!

Sean (Sean), Friday, 15 November 2002 18:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Piano Magic, His Name is Alive... 4AD's dicking around lately...

ken taylor (ken taylor), Friday, 15 November 2002 18:41 (twenty-three years ago)

fuck it am the only person who still loves the eminem show?? also the blueprint two what the hell are you talking about its back to front blissed out incredible!! !!

ep, Friday, 15 November 2002 18:45 (twenty-three years ago)

fuck it am the only person who still loves the eminem show??

Yup. Besides, it's so six months ago. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 November 2002 18:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Rubbish! That's a strong word.

Fair enough, it's not rubbish but the reviews had me anticipating a return to his glory days. I think I should point out that in my opinion (that's IMHO, internet users) Bowie 1970-80 is untouchable, so a return to his glory days would be the Second Coming.

Mike (mratford), Friday, 15 November 2002 18:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Er, obviously not the Stone Roses album.

Mike (mratford), Friday, 15 November 2002 18:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Le Tigre - Feminist Sweepstakes. Adore the first album and the
"Mr Lady" EP, but outside of a few songs (the tour theme and FYR) can't get into this one much.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 15 November 2002 19:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Any post 69 love songs work by Stephin Merrit has been very dissapointing. The early Magnetic Fields records were indie pop masterpieces but the minimal austerity of the 69 songs, while the album is good, seems to have established a generally dissapointing trend in his work. He's either stopped giving a shit, stopped feeling joy, stopped wanting to create joy from sadness, and started appealing to a highly pretentious fan base.

theodore fogelsanger, Friday, 15 November 2002 19:09 (twenty-three years ago)

ned its still sellling like fifty thousand copies a week!! i have sort of replaced it with the 8mile soundtrack now though, how brilliant is that young zee track!!!!

ep, Friday, 15 November 2002 19:15 (twenty-three years ago)

sleater-kinney - one beat (just really boring, unfortunately. i guess it's hard to top 'all hands on the bad one')

gogogoairheart - exitheuxa (what happened to them?)

tony bleach (blackshoeswhitesocks), Friday, 15 November 2002 19:17 (twenty-three years ago)

"skidoos" is probably one of my 5 favourite tracks of the year.

I agree completely. This track is so so great. Nothing else on the record comes close. In an insane coincidence, I happened to bring this album on the bus with me today, and I just listened to it at lunch. First track I find really boring (see Murcof: Martes for a much better example of same vibe), second is OK, but holy shit “Skidoos” is good.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 15 November 2002 19:18 (twenty-three years ago)

ned its still sellling like fifty thousand copies a week!!

Almost as much as the Eagles' greatest hits! Actually, that would make a Dave Q-worthy taking sides.

Anyway, of course it's selling that much. He's a rock star now, remember? He should have just flat out covered "Dream On."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 November 2002 19:22 (twenty-three years ago)

exactly!

ep, Friday, 15 November 2002 19:26 (twenty-three years ago)

I wasn't disappointed by The Eminem Show. I like it exactly as much as I expected to i.e. exactly as much as his other albums i.e. some great tracks some not.

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 16 November 2002 01:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Eminem show disappointed me but 8mile is everything I wanted from him.

I too fear the new jay-z.

The new 3lw was a letdown at first, but now I really like it. The single put me off more than anything else coz it was pretty okay but nowhere near as good as their track with naughty by nature.

Marcello: I think the missy and tlc will totally grow on you coz I read your reviews and it seems like you were engaging other moods when you got them as well as the music, and it colored yr. articles.

No real disappointments though because I've given up on the whole tracking artists thing.

And the Oxide & Neutrino was totally great.

My biggest letdown is probably that I can't get at all into most of the nabisco-hyped electroclash even tho I'm trying and the latest finney tastes in garage are similarly not spectacular to me, though horsepower productions is pretty good. Like even Menta -- I see why I should like it but I just don't.

I am so very glad that the Ja Rule didn't disappoint or I would have been really heartbroken because I have been really building it up to myself.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 16 November 2002 02:16 (twenty-three years ago)

N*E*R*D was disappointing though, especially when even the uk version was better.

Also most of the recent work of ludacris, and thug holiday was a letdown from the last album and from the single -- like only about 1/2 good.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 16 November 2002 02:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah "Thug Holiday" is pretty bland. Sterling which Menta tracks have you heard? "Sounds of the Future" always bugged me until I heard Zed Bias drop it and it made perfect sense. In fact all this type of garage sounds pretty crappy on computer because it doesn't have the nice high-end sounds. On the whole garage is less firing for me now than a year or especially two years ago, but there's enough to keep me engaged (or *attempting* engagement).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 16 November 2002 04:31 (twenty-three years ago)

The Streets album (WTF? I read a lot of articles saying this was excellent, but it sounds really bland), Chemical Brothers (it's ok, but not as enjoyable as their last two)... I'm sure there are others & they're just lost & buried in my shelves already.

lyra (lyra), Saturday, 16 November 2002 04:32 (twenty-three years ago)

And the Oxide & Neutrino was totally great.

Is it? I haven't given it much of a chance, partly because it's far too long, but I might give it another go. The first album is still The Future, they seem to have rush-released this one with no need. (I was hoping their next LP would be the modern Music For The Jilted Generation).

Mike (mratford), Saturday, 16 November 2002 07:48 (twenty-three years ago)

i was disappointed when darren seltmann from the avalanches said this:

"Some of our peers seem to be introducing too much irony into their music and things become a bit of a joke and we find that really offensive. Especially in Daft Punk's last record I thought that they were making fun of the listener. Also, with acts like Britney Spears it reflects badly on music as a whole because it dumbs everything down. It's a shame."

minna (minna), Saturday, 16 November 2002 07:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Beck and Flaming Lips, and my expectations weren't that high. RJD2 - I loved the various things that had been floating around (Def Jux Baby Tee, Your Face or Your Kneecaps), album's kinda blah. The Private Press managed to be the predictable letdown I thought it would be, love Wong Kar-Wai's perfume commercial though. That Avalanches quote is disappointing. Geogaddi doesn't measure up to MHTRTC, but I didn't expect it to so no disappointment there, it's good enough. A little disappointed that bootlegs have petered out, at least for the moment, good fun while it lasted and all that. Disappointed to hear the new Missy, Jay-Z, TLC are disappointments.

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 16 November 2002 10:13 (twenty-three years ago)

James not that I'm saying I'm any more trustworthy but don't take Marcello's word as gospel on those records!

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 16 November 2002 10:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Fuck I forgot it was Marcello! He loco!

James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 16 November 2002 10:29 (twenty-three years ago)

letdowns? interpol-too british. too much radiohead/blur/oasis shite.

the QotSA has to be one of the BEST things i've heard in along time!!!
beck following closely behind. hell, i think i'm one of the ONLY people that really enjoyed the Breeders. Murray St.'s good but nothing to jump around about. Trail of Dead's album still kicks my speakers in!
and Faux/Real sorta set the tone for the rest of the year...

loafin, Saturday, 16 November 2002 11:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Lateralus and Is This It? were both a bit of a letdown. Neither had very much shelf life for me. I was hoping the latter would all be as good as "Hard To Explain" but nothing really made that kind of impression. Maynard Keenan has a decent voice when he actually sings and Tool come up with some good melodies but you need to sit through a lot to get to them. Ultimately I felt like the instrumental parts were just not that impressive in their construction or performance and there's a lot of monotony. Generally, it seems like it was mostly done better in the 70s.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 16 November 2002 15:37 (twenty-three years ago)

heh, i haf "found" the sleevenotes to My Way now (*looks sheepish*)

in other breaking news, I just discovered there's a record inside the Lush Gala sleeve set! ;-)

Jeff W, Saturday, 16 November 2002 16:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm also a little disappointed by Keith Rowe and Oren Ambarchi (Flypaper) though it's still decent and I'm giving it time. After Suspension my hopes were really high. Some of it just feels like drifty ambient wash.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 16 November 2002 18:26 (twenty-three years ago)

I doubt S-K's One Beat, Beck's Sea Change and Spoon's Kill the Moonlight would bother me so much if everyone wasn't overrating them so much. So for an album untouched by hype that disappointed I'll pick Mudhoney's Since We've Become Translucent. The compilation track "Inside Job" excited me, but the album is flaccid even for them, with "Inside Job" shoddily remixed so that it wouldn't stick out like a golden thumb.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 16 November 2002 18:36 (twenty-three years ago)

fuck it am the only person who still loves the eminem show??

I still like it. I don't know what the hell everyone was expecting from it, but they're all insane.

I hate the Streets, despite everyone talking it up, what is that about? It was like the most boring thing I've heard all year.

Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 16 November 2002 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, I could never really get into Lateralus either. But if the whole album had been like the last three tracks (not counting that silly alien thing at the end of the record) then it'd be a different story.

Also: The Dillinger Escape Plan/Mike Patton disc was OK but nothing spectacular. New Meshuggah also seemed like more of the same but played really freakin' S-L-O-W. Just kind of unpleasant to listen to and it makes me feel fat and sweaty when I do.

Kompakt Total 4 was a bit "meh" too. I think I still like the second one best of all, but maybe because I really killed the tracks I love off of Total 3 through overplaying 'em.

Most disappointing thing of all: Where is the Vooredoms album???

original bgm, Saturday, 16 November 2002 19:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Moby - 18

Total shit.

Curtis Stephens, Sunday, 17 November 2002 02:00 (twenty-three years ago)

every album i anticipated was a disappointment. i only listen to pleasant surprises now

boxcubed (boxcubed), Sunday, 17 November 2002 02:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Also, Doves' "The Last Broadcast"

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 17 November 2002 22:50 (twenty-three years ago)

764-HERO's Nobody Knows This Is Everywhere - Weekends of Sound was their best album, but then James Bertram left and suddenly it became apparent how important he was to the band's sound. Boring songs, bland production— is it any wonder they broke up for good after this?

Bright Eyes' Lifted - I loved Fevers and Mirrors and the Desaparecidos album, but I haven't been able to listen to this more than twice. You'd think Conor Oberst would have learned something about pop brevity playing with Desaparecidos and doing the split EP with Britt Daniel, but apparently not.

Metoos: Beck tries to do something different, Flaming Lips try to do something similar, both make boring albums and then go on tour together. And some people say there's no harmony in the cosmos.

Nick Mirov (nick), Monday, 18 November 2002 01:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Nick, I just wanna say thanks for being the first person I've heard who admits the Desaparecidos album is waayyy better than the Bright Eyes one.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 18 November 2002 02:16 (twenty-three years ago)

For this New Dylan crap, its interesting that his best work has been with collaboraters (Denver Dalley on Desaparecidos and Britt Daniel).

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 18 November 2002 02:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Seriously? I dunno, I thought it was practically Indie Rock Conventional Wisdom that Conor's histrionics are better suited to big loud rawk guitars than to folkier textures. Ever heard Commander Venus? Way too emo to deal with for a whole album, but individual tracks ("We'll Always Have Paris") can be amazing.

Nick Mirov (nick), Monday, 18 November 2002 02:43 (twenty-three years ago)


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