obscuritys n weirdness in nme top 100 singles chart's lower reaches

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nelly hot in herre at 66
something called 'love removal machine (?) by the cult at 98
there goes the fear by doves at 90
september gurls by big star at 68 (is this mojo i'm reading ?)

...and no 'i feel love' by donna summer anywhere at all !

piscesboy, Friday, 15 November 2002 11:04 (twenty-three years ago)

heheh obvious answer: wot, hot in herre only number 66? should be at least 40 places higher!

ah yes, the leviathan of rockouts that is love removal machine by the cult (steven wells prob voted for it)! From 1987, produced by rick rubin, trying to do a led zep but of course much mightier! ;-) esp. the big finish where ian astbury yells "BOOGIE!" and the band speeds up. ridiculous but quite brilliant. you only have to look at the 1987 list (great though it is) to see how out of kilter that was at the time (MM LOVED it though!).

(mark s' top single of all time in '87 was of course my top single of all time, i.e. videotheque by dollar)

hehe, doves at 90? at least 42049 places too high!

more to the point, where's down deep inside by donna summer? (carmody to thread) at the recent beth gibbons gig the dj played this as a warm-up. i had forgotten what a fantastic record it was. of course it never appears on donna s. compilations grrr!

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 15 November 2002 11:57 (twenty-three years ago)

oh yes, about big star - no, if this were mojo it would prob come top! (or uncut come to think of it 'cos paul l's a big big star fan).

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 15 November 2002 11:58 (twenty-three years ago)

TWO threads on this poll?? When this morning's MOJO brings us "Like House Never Happened: The Top 100 Drug Songs If You Haven't Touched Drugs Since That Nasty Flashback At The Isle Of Wight"

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 November 2002 12:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, this is ANOTHER edition of Mojo which I have bought purely for the contents of the free CD!

I'm thinking about approaching them to do reviews, but I suspect there's an EMAP/IPC enmity/division which can never be bridged. I must seek expert advice (i.e. ask Simon R).

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 15 November 2002 12:21 (twenty-three years ago)

you'll be living in laaaarndun then tom, as being in
little manchesterford-on-the-wold, the 'moje' hasn't
hit the shops yet. can't argue with white rabbit mind.
is it a poll *deliberately* ignoring house and the
post 88 era, or were you just joking ?

'higher than the sun' still the best drugs song
*actually about drugs that tries to
communicate to the listener the feeling of being
on the drug* for my money

piscesboy, Friday, 15 November 2002 12:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Well flicking through it I thought, oh they're just ignoring dance music and focussing on the E era as filtered through rock, very Mojo but fair enough, but then there are one or two sore-thumb inclusions low down like "Positive Education". In context it's very like Kind Of Blue in the Top 100 Albums.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 November 2002 12:46 (twenty-three years ago)

sore thumbs inclusions ?

piscesboy, Friday, 15 November 2002 13:30 (twenty-three years ago)

As in 'sticks out like a'

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 November 2002 13:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Uncut did a top 100 singles a year and a bit ago...

Public Enemy were number 1.

Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 15 November 2002 13:43 (twenty-three years ago)

oh no! hot new band! oh no!!

jel -- (jel), Friday, 15 November 2002 13:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah but that was a top 100 singles since 1976 list.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 15 November 2002 13:56 (twenty-three years ago)

"Yes, this is ANOTHER edition of Mojo which I have bought purely for the contents of the free CD!
I'm thinking about approaching them to do reviews, but I suspect there's an EMAP/IPC enmity/division which can never be bridged. I must seek expert advice (i.e. ask Simon R)."

who at IPC do you write for, Marcello? the divide between EMAP and IPC is pretty much unstraddle-able, as far as i can tell...

from my experience, EMAP is a lot more fun than IPC ever was. a lot more competent, too.

sxxx

stevie (stevie), Friday, 15 November 2002 14:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah yes - punk and that.

Still, they did pick Atmosphere ahead of Love Will Tear Us Apart, which was nice.

Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 15 November 2002 14:49 (twenty-three years ago)

david stubbs did that uncut one all on his own.
that's why p.e. ended up at number one.
should've been 'fight the power' mind.

piscesboy, Friday, 15 November 2002 15:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes I quite agree with piscesboy about Fight the Power (the uncensored version on the Do The Right Thing soundtrack, that is).

Stevie, i'm writing for Uncut (my first reviews can be found in the current issue, the one with Keef on the cover). Hmmm, i thought as much as regards the EMAP/IPC thing...but then Paul Lester (who goes against the grain of all the Nigels and Nicks on Uncut) is reviews editor at Uncut, and we get on v. well indeed, so that's my excuse.

I'm also writing for the Wire (two reviews in the current 20th anniversary ish) but am wondering where else I could write, as ultimately I want to try to make a living out of doing this (hah!). Mark S gave me a set of back issues of the New Left Review, through which I am currently ploughing to see how well I'd fit in there.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 15 November 2002 15:20 (twenty-three years ago)

tell paul lester he's a god from me.
his article about chic in 'unknown pleasures'
(free book about hidden gem albums given
away free with the maker in 95) had a massive effect on me.
ditto his obit. of bernard edwards in the maker -
the last line of which memorably ran
'jesus *now* i know how you felt about cobain'.

he's ace paul lester is.

uncut's ace at the minute writers-wise
(reynolds, lester, morley, roberts, stubbs)
but the recent spate of mojo-ish covers
(and seemingly endless lennon blether) has put me off a bit.
who's in charge of that !??

piscesboy, Friday, 15 November 2002 16:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, that'll be all the Nigels and Nicks who (with Jonesey) more or less run the mag. They went for the retro thing and their circulation went up by 30%, so I guess we're stuck with it - that's what the readers seem to want.

Having said that, I thought Stubbs' piece on Lennon in the last issue was very good indeed, and even the Keef interview this month I must admit I found a pretty engrossing read (I particularly enjoyed him bitching over Led Zep. "Manufactured band, man...if you can't do it with one bass drum, you ain't fuckin' gonna do it with two, pal!").

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 15 November 2002 16:22 (twenty-three years ago)

"'higher than the sun' still the best drugs song
*actually about drugs that tries to
communicate to the listener the feeling of being
on the drug* for my money "

Spot on, piscesboy.

James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 15 November 2002 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Please explain why Paul Lester is "ace".

Tag, Saturday, 16 November 2002 12:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry, that's not intended as a loaded question. I'm curious.

Tag, Saturday, 16 November 2002 12:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought Paul was a wonderful chap when I met him at Melody Maker offices many years ago. The sort of person you could instantly build a close working relationship with.

(ps: "Down Deep Inside" is like my own private "I Feel Love": I often wonder what I'd think of it if everyone else woke up to its genius, though I suspect it'd still be my favourite single of that year, apart from all the other ones etc.)

robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 16 November 2002 15:06 (twenty-three years ago)

marcello - i really like Uncut. sure, there' a lot of dingey americana and worthiness, but its a great mag, and from what i know the people there are really decent. heard some horror stories about Lester in the past, but i've enever worked for him personally, so who knows.

if yr writing for uncut, you won't be able to write for mojo. its direct competition, and even though you're 'freelance', you ain't THAT 'free'.

sxxx

stevie (stevie), Saturday, 16 November 2002 16:37 (twenty-three years ago)


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