From Profundity to Cliché: A Collection of Trite Things People Say About Music

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Inspired by the 'aging rock band going back to basics' thread.

You know the kind of things I mean:

“We just record the stuff we want to hear, and if anyone likes it, well that’s a bonus

“It’s the notes they don’t play”

“Jazz is, like, a conversation

I assume at some point these kinds of statements might have sounded profound, perhaps even provocative. But now, of course, they are the definition of cliché. Use this thread to discuss, and also as a compendium of similar, err, dancing about architecture.

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 28 December 2018 01:01 (six years ago)

As a guitarist, I would say my evolution as a player over the years has definitely involved notes I have chosen not to play.

timellison, Friday, 28 December 2018 01:23 (six years ago)

Similar to notes not played:
"It's all about the pauses in between the music" which has been taken to an extreme in 4'33".

By the way I think the bad reputation of cliché - likewise that of prejudice - very often is unjustified. There is almost always more than a grain of truth in it. And one has to be careful when saying in a discussion that something is a cliché. As often it is only a way of trying to let the other's position appear trite or even dubious.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 28 December 2018 20:44 (six years ago)

music as "a tonic" or "a balm"

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 28 December 2018 21:15 (six years ago)

Music is a universal language

Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 December 2018 21:17 (six years ago)

some music is definitely tonic

Driving Drone for Christmas (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 December 2018 21:25 (six years ago)

"Emperor's new clothes" is my most hated

Music is a universal language

― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, December 28, 2018 9:17 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, the more music I hear from different places and times, the more this seems like a blinkered parochial view disguised as an open-minded one

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 December 2018 21:26 (six years ago)

the only time anyone has ever used the word "tonic" in the past decade or so has been A) when describing a piece of music or B) preceded by "gin and"

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 28 December 2018 21:30 (six years ago)

Especially when describing the root note though

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 28 December 2018 21:33 (six years ago)

sorry katherine i was just making a bad theory joke

Driving Drone for Christmas (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 December 2018 21:35 (six years ago)

I say "just the tonic" on occasion but is that a Brit thing?

Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Friday, 28 December 2018 21:41 (six years ago)

Oh Christ even the dictionary is calling me old fashioned

Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Friday, 28 December 2018 21:43 (six years ago)


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