STUMM433 - Box Set - Various Artists - All Performing John Cage 4'33"

I had to drop out some to make it 50 options:

Bruce Gilbert
Chris Carter
He Said
Land Observations
Michael Gira
Modey Lemon
Phew
Pink Grease
Pole

Some are on other artist names, some are "who?" and one is "c'mon.."

Isn't the whole point of the piece that it should be performed live? Does it make sense on record?

The little I gleaned was that each artist does something silently for whatever time period, for a video performance.

It reminds me of that monty python sketch where you had to work out which philosopher was on a recording, reading the paper or some such.

It's already leaked, including 266(!) bonus tracks not in the box set.

I'm not gonna lie, I had to google to see if this was a spoof or not

I heard someone joking earlier that the Depeche Mode rendition is the best thing they've done for 21 years!

The catalogue number for this tickles me, given that "stumm" is German for "mute" ...

So is it about ambient sound in the studio?
THought the point of it as a live piece was to illustrate the absence of silence in any given situation. The person supposedly performing not doing an active performance showing whatever other sound there was in the venue.
So yeah odd as a studio recording.
Did hear taht Ciccone Youth once did a hardcore version at 1'33 or something similar. Sped it up, like.

https://www.discogs.com/master/view/1022486

Sounds Of Silence - The Most Intriguing Silences In Recording History!

I was expecting some sort of DVD collection, given that the Laibach one is being previewed. But, no. Unless its in the Super deluxe version.

The catalogue number for this tickles me, given that "stumm" is German for "mute" ...

'mute' is english for 'mute'!!!!!!

This one's always been a favorite of mine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voqCQSDAcn8

'mute' is english for 'mute'!!!!!!

― j., Sunday, January 20, 2019 11:22 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well observed, but the catalogue number isn't MUTE433. It's more the way the word "stumm" made it into British slang, i.e. "keep stumm" meaning "keep quiet", which is precisely what performers of 4'33" try to do.

It's a pun on Mute that's been on the catalogue for decades. Think it was totally conscious when it was introduced.

voted moby

Would assume that the project itself was a riff on the idea of 'Mute'.
Haven't seen, is it an anniversary celebration/item or something?

IIRC Cage has said that he wrote 4:33 "a note at a time," I.e., he started with an amount of silence that sounded good, kept going, and stopped when it seemed like another moment of silence would have felt like too much. 4:32 would have been too short and 4:34 would be too long.

In the 80s, somebody published a piece of joke sheet music called "Resting" for SATB. It was four pages of different rests, all notated very tongue-in-cheekily. Like there's a few measures of sixteenth-note rests in the alto part and it says with feeling and then it goes back to whole-note rests, then a fermata over a half rest, then a repeat sign, etc. Seems to have circulated among choir director s as a goof. I think my mother has a copy.

JUst thinking that with a concept like this it is usually done to mark a significant point. So somebody brainstorms a memorable concept taht would be the marker. Not sure what ground it has on its own feet.
So could see that it might be Mute's 40th anniversary though not sure they were around prior to the early 80s. Or the anniversary of teh Cage piece. Or did the matrix number Stumm433 come up and need something to be attributed to it.

"Warm Leatherette" was 1978 IIRC.

xposts Yeah, I saw that sheet music in Forbes a couple of years ago. Along with some other sheet musics..

Well observed, but the catalogue number isn't MUTE433.

That’s because this isn’t a single. Singles on Mute have a Mute cat #, albums have a Stumm cat # (since 1980), and Depeche Mode singles have a Bong cat.

xp it seems to be part of Mute’s 40th anniversary celebrations.

That’s because this isn’t a single.

― sans lep (sic), Monday, January 21, 2019 4:50 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Obviously!

It's a pun on Mute that's been on the catalogue for decades. Think it was totally conscious when it was introduced.

― Stevolende, Monday, January 21, 2019 1:11 AM (eighteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm well aware of the fact that they generally used a "mute" catalogue number for singles and "stumm" (German for "mute") for albums from the very beginning. I'm pointing out that the catalogue number of this project is far more descriptive than, say, the catalogue number for Erasure's Wild! (Stumm 75), in the sense that not only has it been given an appropriate catalogue number (433) but the word "stumm" basically implies what the performers of the piece are doing. They're "keeping stumm", i.e. "staying quiet"/"not performing" ... it falls in line quite neatly with Mute's existing policy of cataloguing their releases and creates a nice little pun. I seriously thought I wouldn't need to explain all that.

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i simultaneously think this is a cool idea and wonder why anyone in their right mind would buy it.

Voted for the fad gadget tribute band, though I wonder why we couldn’t have had hologram frank tovey himself

Can't remember if I've already posted "oh fuck off" on this thread or not

Anyone voting in this poll without listening to the entire box set is acting against the spirit of the poll imo

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Afghan Whigs were robbed

sssssh

stumm.