What Do You Get Out of This

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so I'm in the office today and a supervisor with whom I'm friendly comes in while I was listening to the DJ Pica Pica Pica CD Jess done sent me (thanks Jess). The souper spends a few uncomfortable minutes silently but visibly gearing up to ask the question, and then says: "Not to be insulting or anything and I hope you won't take offense, but what is it that you get out of music like this?"

Immediate popist response is of course "simple pleasure" but the man's earnestness in asking, and his real & evident desire to try to understand the nature of the enjoyment one gets from say DJ /Rupture or Mssr. Pica Pica Pica, seemed worthy of comment to me.

Regarding the music you enjoy: what is it that you get out of it?

J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 00:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the question which is of course as old as the hills and has also been asked and answered a thousand times turns finally on levels of engagement etc but am interested to hear what anybody/everybody has to say about it

J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 00:14 (twenty-three years ago)

to cut a long story short, re-assurance and affirmation mainly


stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 00:15 (twenty-three years ago)

the drama i'm craving!

Aaron A., Tuesday, 19 November 2002 00:16 (twenty-three years ago)

1. Good beat, can dance to it, pretty noises, nice hooks
2. ????
3. Escapism!

Apologies to slashdot.

Tom Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 00:26 (twenty-three years ago)

re-assurance....that i'm alive, this is real, things are gonna be alright, i'm not alone in feeling how i feel/thinking how i think, that others take a different view but thats cool, that i felt this way before if i remember, that i've made progress, there's so much more out there...

i mean you listen to music for a buzz or feeling of some kind, for inspiration etc. i like hearing 'crazy' sounds and rhythms partly because in sonic terms its often pleasurable hearing extreme frequencies/notes as it heightens the senses (maybe this makes you feel more alive and/or empowered hence the pleasure) but i like to hear them deployed within conventional 'restrictions' like rhythmic beats (however complicated) and a sense of what music and a song is - catchy hooks or quirks designed for remembrance, familiar patterns (the re-assurance again), the structure of the song - especially if its like an ascension or progression - rather than just as a sequence of chaotic noise - i love the 'design' aspect of it like i enjoy visual art

the other thing i get out of it is satisfaction for when i find i can identify what i like about the track and why, and also understand what messages the author of the track was trying to communicate

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 00:27 (twenty-three years ago)

useable confusion

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 00:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Makes me feel alive, makes me feel that bigger things than I can conceive of on my own are possible, spurs to action, opens doors.

Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 00:45 (twenty-three years ago)

every emotion i've ever felt. that's what i get.

Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 00:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Reminds me of things, takes me back, takes me elsewhere, makes me fall.

Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 00:47 (twenty-three years ago)

the music i listen to fills in the gaps in my lifeforce and refortifies my chi... it helps me achieve a sense of well being and completeness by overriding the feelings of emptiness that i acquire daily as i observe the path my life is taking...

ko hsüan, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 00:51 (twenty-three years ago)

The knowledge that I'm right.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 00:53 (twenty-three years ago)

psychic abandon

(esp. wrt the cd john was listening to)

gygax!, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 00:59 (twenty-three years ago)

The charge. The sudden jaw-dropping thrill. The warmth. It all depends, really, sometimes it's subtle and sometimes it's overwhelming, and it's very hard to easily put into words.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 01:39 (twenty-three years ago)

fall in luv safely (?) almost every day!

Paul (scifisoul), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 02:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Cheap thrills and/or emotional charge.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 10:07 (twenty-three years ago)

It's going to depend, obviously, on the music and my condition at the time I listen to it. A couple weeks back I was listening to some Oum Kalthoum and Qur'anic recitation in the same evening. In both cases there were some times when I felt almost a sense of moving out of my body to follow the music. I'm not claiming an actual out of body experience, but I mean that I was imaginatively moving and following the music, almost away from myself. This was accompanied by, or was an expression of, the feelings the music was conjuring. It seems to happen when I am following this type of music closely and the vocalist sort of bends the tones, or modulates into a different mode (I guess). It's sort of like the feeling when you are riding in a car and there's a sudden dip, and you feel that little fluttery feeling in your stomach that can actually be pleasant. (I seem to remember this happening more when I was a kid than it does now, but maybe that's just because I am rarely in a car.)

Another recent example: listening to Joe Bataan's cha cha cha "Muchacho Ordinario." This seems to capture some childhood sense of "cool," no doubt partly due to the very 70's sounding production. It creates its own time atmosphere, but I guess that's what all music does. Here it's an all-the-time-in-the-world sort of feeling.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 17:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Sometimes in jazz solos, I like the sense that the soloist is putting this sound or note right here. I get this a lot with the Arkestra. I don't think I get this from really fast breakneck speed solos. I'm not talking about the soloist actually directing the sound to a particular physical place, but more of an imaginary sense of putting this sound here. (Kind of like Kate Bush saying, "I put this moment--here.")

These are just some things I like.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 17:25 (twenty-three years ago)

When I listen to music I love I forget my miserable little life for a moment or so. You can call it escapism. You can call it a trip. To a better world. Less boring and crap than the real one. Music equips my mind with wings. It inspires me and my train of thought. Thinking this to the end listening to music is almost a religious experience for me. That's maybe pulling it a little. Let's say metaphysical. So it shouldn't come as a surprise that I don't like mainstream pop. That I don't like the music business. That I am always looking for the new, the unexpected, the ultimate.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:14 (twenty-three years ago)

ten years pass...

reviving due to the discussions happening on the Savages and Shaking the Habitual threads

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:15 (twelve years ago)

I need to hear Savages.

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:53 (twelve years ago)

would i like them?

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:56 (twelve years ago)

you tell me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neRGpHLj1EQ

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 15:59 (twelve years ago)

It's really difficult for me to articulate what it is I really get out of music, or even what I'm looking for. The most common thread between most of the music I listen to is some ineffable balance between rhythmic intensity and a quality that, for lack of a better term, I will call "trance-inducing". There are certain timbres I've imprinted on, particularly in the realm of the post-punk, goth and industrial music I wallowed in throughout high school and college, mixed in with a strong desire to dance to the beat. I really like my drums to be hard-hitting and punishing, my bass lines to be frenzied, the musical arrangements to coil like a spring and then explode into an expansive cacophony of sound. I also like purity of sound; that note hit by someone who really knows how to use their voice, perfectly in tune and supported and rolling over me in a wave of beauty. I like it when those things are mashed together; I like it when people know when and where to use ugly sounds to amplify the musical ideas they are attempting to convey.

In many ways, I feel like music is my native language and it gives me indescribable joy when I hear someone whom I think is speaking it fluently.

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:06 (twelve years ago)

I meant "who", didn't I

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:07 (twelve years ago)

Music-as-emotional-companion, I think, is true much of the time. In this case, what I'm feeling (or want to feel) dictates what music I'll put on to either enhance or induce an emotional response.

Then again, lots of the time I just want to hear something new to me, so see if it triggers any sort of response.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:37 (twelve years ago)


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