Morrissey is a racist

See above.

who?

Morrissey

not ringing any bells

https://i.imgur.com/6pzFKLv.jpg

i still enjoy the music of morrissey and feel conflicted. has ilx ever discussed this sort of moral dilemma before?

no

he was in that one band, kind of like a goth Aztec Camers

Yes, he definitely is.

Bill Morrissey, as he is known professionally, is one of New England’s best singer-songwriters.

http://home.bt.com/images/terry-wogan-at-eurovision-136404222879110401-160223153133.jpg

thank you jim, you are the hero of ilx

I think he was Johnny marrs singer, aka the guy who played guitar for the the. I guess he had a band before that

Johnny Mars from Modest Mouse?

No, Johnny Mars from Motley Crue, iirc.

Great, You caught one.

Like shooting f ish in a oxygen bar,
re a lly.

Long Tim Jonze article in Guardian today

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/may/30/bigmouth-strikes-again-morrissey-songs-loneliness-shyness-misfits-far-right-party-tonight-show-jimmy-fallon

the url gives me the gist

Every time this happens there’s always a dozen articles with the title “bigmouth strikes again”, if only the smiths had done a song called “very stupid cunt keeps shitting himself let’s talk about it”

I'd gladly read that Tim Jonze long read if he was offering a $1 per word.

“the morrissey you, the further away i get”

xxxp it does. the article is 90% rehashing, but includes bits from a couple of interviews with Asian artists, also interesting to see how he has tried to manage all of this using lawyers but appears to have given up.

Around the time he sued NME, Morrissey forced the Word magazine into an apology over a review that said he was “paying lip service to anti-racism while talking like an old Tory immigration spokesman”

Why in the world would they apologize for that basic statement of fact

Because libel law in the UK is ridiculous and Morrissey likes to have his lawyers send out threatening letters and as far as editors are concerned it isn't worth the hassle?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/may/30/bigmouth-strikes-again-morrissey-songs-loneliness-shyness-misfits-far-right-party-tonight-show-jimmy-fallon

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, May 30, 2019 8:07 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I am just so glad that Morrissey isn't doing Misfits covers.

Because libel law in the UK is ridiculous and Morrissey likes to have his lawyers send out threatening letters and as far as editors are concerned it isn't worth the hassle?

Obviously! Although the statement was about as inarguable as "Morrissey has hair."

why is it always the worst ones who have hair?

Wow at the idea that what's being criticized about "Bengali in Platforms" is its "tone."

very stupid (la-di-da da-da)
very stupid (la-di-di-daaa)

wins, I think this could work

why is it always the worst ones who have hair?

Moz pretty clearly tolerates a certain amount of immigration to his scalp.

Irish Hair, English Arsehole

Yes, but was he a racist?

Was, is, and ever shall be

The past is a different country, but Morrissey is still racist there.

I just feel bad for all the people who named their cats Steven Meowrissey

He has tweeted someone's blog post in defense of himself. It's all about veganism and shaking things up, you idiots:

In his open support for the party For Britain , (which seems to have caused the most controversy in recent years) Morrissey has explained his admiration for the party leader's (Anne Marie Water) vegan lifestyle and huge dedication to animal protection. He has long expressed how he is tired of the same two political groups running the game again and again, he wants to see a shake up in politics, as many of us do. Much of the criticism levelled at Morrissey's endorsement of For Britain stems from accusations that the party are either “racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party, and they have members of all backgrounds).

It goes on.

https://www.tremr.com/Fiona-Dodwell/the-guardian-and-the-morrissey-vendetta

“racist” or “anti-Islam” (a meaningless claim when you consider that even some ex-Muslims openly support the party, and they have members of all backgrounds)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

Any actual Muslims support this non-racist, non-Islamophoboc party?

so wait, morrissey's argument here is literally "hitler was a vegetarian"?

what's his backup argument, "hitler was a sensitive man"?

Hitler was a lesbian.

Some guy named 4chan said Hitler did nothing wrong.

Also, can we start a new thread titled 'Morrissey is a fascist'?

He could say Hitler was right to kill the Jews and legions of his fans would defend him and claim he's misunderstood.

... and that's no joke btw.

ol' Moz bringin' out the Godwin's law on ilx, gotta love it

what's his backup argument, "hitler was a sensitive man"?

Charming man

TS: Steven Patrick Morrissey vs Mikko Aspa

Godwin himself approves a common sense exception to invoking his law when ppl are discussing actual confirmed white supremacists tbfttl

By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you.

— Mike Godwin (@sfmnemonic) August 14, 2017

so pleased to finally meet you Mike...I've invoked your name countless times on message borads over the decades....

Morrissey has described his hotel on Plaza Manises as …

"indescribable hell. It will take me one year to recover. And that is an understatement".

- adding on And that is an understatement is just killing me lol

Thank you for your attention to this moaner.

lol

- adding on And that is an understatement is just killing me lol

lol the thing is, one wishes Morrissey the worst, because he is such an unrepentant racist and bigot, and yet, this is intensely relatable if you've been traveling and your sleep's all fucked up and you have to work and Jesus Christ must they be so loud outside? the earplugs don't do shit! it's three in the fucking morning! for the love of God! like as a guy who travels for work a lot this is easily for me Mozz's most human moment in a very long while

That's understandable. Declaring "the show is not cancelled. circumstances render the show impossible" is less so.

if it's going to take him one year to recover, guess the rest of the tour is canceled lol

Xp play captain sensible WOT video in this space obv

this is fantastic:

https://wheartm.com/every-date-that-morrissey-has-ever-cancelled/\

Career wide there is a 1 in 4 chance that he cancels a show.

no show Jones here

xp they're not cancelled, he just retroactively unbooked them

That's understandable. Declaring "the show is not cancelled. circumstances render the show impossible" is less so.

Saying the fine print in big type

xxxp lol I got obsessed with the captain sensible WOT video a couple of months ago
which led me to discovering the italo disco WOT/Rappers Delight mashup from 1983?!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT3VgJUimXg

16 May 2025 St Petersburg, FL – Duke Energy Center for the Arts – Mahaffey Theater (Postponed to Jan 20, 2026)

20 Jan 2026 St. Petersburg, FL – Duke Energy Center for the Arts (Cancelled)

It turns out the main person who canceled Morrissey was… Morrissey

15 Jan 2026 St. Louis, MO – The Factory (Cancelled)

“FLU IN ST LOU: As predicted by your parents, I apologize deeply … but it IS -44 degrees outside, and EVERYONE is hacking themselves to death, and I am, regrettably, human. I am doing my small and pathetic best. From tomorrow, Atlanta is our mantra.”

17 Jan 2026 Atlanta, GA – The Fox Theatre (Cancelled)

That's understandable. Declaring "the show is not cancelled. circumstances render the show impossible" is less so.

yeah he's obviously trying to get out of refunding people, but that's obviously not how it works lol

what a weird conceit to think this strategy and excuse will always work without complete reputational destruction.

*laughtrak groans*

he should have just said the show was cancelled because of woke

with all that not sleeping he was doing, he'd be right

26 Feb 2013 Los Angeles, CA – Jimmy Kimmel Live (cancelled due to Duck Dynasty; hollywoodreporter.com)

gave the new album a shot, made it 3/4 of the way through, extremely boring most of the time, occasionally dire, a few songs that were alright. there seems to be no reason for it to exist at all.

“Sing Me Spanish Techno”— i blame the New Pornographers for this cancellation

"impossible concert" is just the vegan, cruelty-free alternative to "concert". it's also known as "qoncert", depending on what store you go to.

I saw someone on Bluesky claiming (perhaps in jest, 'cause how the fuck would I know?) that the Smiths had once cancelled a show because Morrissey got stung by a bee.

okay

If a ten-tonne buzz, kills the both of us

The Village Voice in 1986, apparently:

The Smiths canceled several dates recently, including the September 16 sellout at Radio City. The official word was laryngitis, but rumor had it Morrissey was stung by a bee.

tbf i would totally call out from work for being bitten by a bee/extended insomnia

but those are among the (very few) reasons why i am not a legendary pop singer

From the English-language edition of El Pais:

The nightmare of organizing a Morrissey concert

Worth reading in full, but in case of future linkrot, two highlights:

According to a statement published on the artist’s website, the cause of this “sleep deprivation” was the noise from a street party with electronic music that was set up near the central hotel booked for him by his production office. This hotel was booked despite local promoters having warned about street closures and intense nighttime activity in downtown Valencia during the days leading up to the Fallas festival, the city’s world-famous festival of art, fire, food and music.

from the director of Benicassim, who was the press officer when Moz no-showed the festival in 2004:

“I try to separate the man from his work, but my opinion of Morrissey is basically that he’s a bad person, a misanthrope, and a racist who doesn’t care about canceling even if his band is already on stage and won’t get paid, or if his team has to endure the embarrassment of having to face the music for him. I’m telling you this as someone who bought a ticket to see Morrissey in Seville next week. It’s a shame, because I think that after a period of musical stagnation, these last few singles are worthwhile.”

Anyone who acknowledges that Morrissey is a racist but still pays to see him anyway deserves all they get. Or don't get.

Bingo

I wouldn’t hold anyone to a translation of a quote that was probably a condensation in the original, but in the English presentation he clearly agrees with you.

I have a good friend in Valencia, and naturally I asked him about this. Here is what he said, no doubt copied and pasted from his replies to various other friends also sending him silly Moz memes and inquiring about this:

It's the Fallas festival here. No one is getting any sleep. Terrible tour booking. I literally can't get into the city until a week Sunday when the roads open back up. Right now, it's kids throwing firecrackers, loud explosions through the night and 30' bonfires all throughout the city. [mutual friend] insisted on visiting at this time last year, against all advice, and had a thoroughly miserable time. We barely got to hang out.

Heaven knows I'm thoroughly miserable now.

teenagers with bonfires clearly hired by The Guardian to mock the great man's unreleased masterpiece Bonfire Of Teenagers :-(

Fallas festival, the city’s world-famous festival of art, fire, food and music.

Wait ... festival of fire? So ... fire fest? Suddenly this train wreck is making sense.

yeah, that word caught my attention too!

On the final night of Falles, around midnight on 19 March,[20] these falles are burnt as huge bonfires. This is known as La Cremà (the Burning), the climax of the whole event,[21] and the reason why the constructions are called falles ("torches"). Traditionally, the falla in the Plaça de l'Ajuntament is burned last.

Right now, it's kids throwing firecrackers, loud explosions through the night and 30' bonfires all throughout the city

he should have just said the show was cancelled because of woke

― symsymsym, Thursday, March 12, 2026 7:11 PM (three days ago)

hahahaha

Reuters took into account Banksy’s privacy claims – and the fact that many of his fans wish for him to remain anonymous. Yet we concluded that the public has a deep interest in understanding the identity and career of a figure with his profound and enduring influence on culture, the art industry and international political discourse. In so doing, we applied the same principle Reuters uses everywhere. The people and institutions who seek to shape social and political discourse are subject to scrutiny, accountability, and, sometimes, unmasking. Banksy’s anonymity – a deliberate, public-facing, and profitable feature of his work – has enabled him to operate without such transparency.

"we just did what we wanted to do and we have a bunch of nonsense reasons to say 'we get to do this'"

this is the wrong thread unless you've just dropped a major revelation

wrong thread indeed!

slightly disappointed

Still I’d rather be banksy that righteous or holy
Any day any day any day

Than

The Strange Case of Dr. Bansky and Mr. Morrissey