The new trend in pop music.

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The new trend seems to be more female singer-songwritter types and less dance-pop divas. But, from listening, the only difference I can find is, in stead of singing fairly bad written songs written by other people, now they're singing awfully written songs written by themselves.

― David Allen, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 01:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually they're all awful and the singer-songwriters have worse production, that's all.

I like how anybody who writes their own songs in pop nowadays is produced with extra guitar-live-drums pseudo-rock crap whilst those who don't get hip-hop and techno flourishes.

Personally I prefer girls who play bass.

― Tom Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 02:02 (twenty-three years ago)

BTW, everybody, when I start a phrase like that with 'I like how' it means 'I laugh at this ridiculous phenomenon'.

― Tom Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 02:04 (twenty-three years ago)

you guys are really shiftin them paradigms there.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 02:04 (twenty-three years ago)

AWFUL WAFFLE AWFUL WAFFLE

― boxcubed (boxcubed), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 02:07 (twenty-three years ago)

paradigm hahahahaha

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 02:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Michelle Branch and Vanessa Carlton do not equal a "trend."

― Joe Folladori, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 02:10 (twenty-three years ago)

They did about 6 weeks ago. Shit moves fast.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 02:12 (twenty-three years ago)

oh my god! you've convinced me! i've been listening to crap my whole life! i'm living a lie! no! no! no! no! if not for you and pitchfork i might have spent the next month listening to this crap on the radio instead of discovering that unbroken thread of real music that's been going on under the nose of "respectible" (read: conventional, hah!) society EVER SINCE THE 80's!!!!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:24 (twenty-three years ago)

pitchfork hahahahaha

― Dare, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:31 (twenty-three years ago)

oh my god! you've convinced me! i've been listening to crap my whole life! i'm living a lie! no! no! no! no! if not for you and pitchfork i might have spent the next month listening to this crap on the radio instead of discovering that unbroken thread of real music that's been going on under the nose of "respectible" (read: conventional, hah!) society EVER SINCE THE 80's!!!!

Burn.

― David Allen, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 04:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah? Fuck off and die.

(dare: sorry about the pitchfork ref. i wuz just playin' on the 80s list just published. you know i gotcha back)

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 06:01 (twenty-three years ago)

donkeylips

― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 06:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Where did that "what is lazy criticism" thread go anyway?

― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 06:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Sterling: sorry on the overuse of the old jess/ethan guffaw. I know it's played out.

― Dare, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 06:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah? Fuck off and die.
(dare: sorry about the pitchfork ref. i wuz just playin' on the 80s list just published. you know i gotcha back)

-- Sterling Clover (s_clover@e...), November 20th, 2002.

Double burn.

Also, OF COURSE me saying I hate something in mainstream music, means Im saying "INDIE ROCK HOWEVER IS PERFECT."

Dolt.

― David Allen, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)

There's this Michelle Branch song that has the most god-awful, digitally-dead voiced "piano" part that is among the most cringe-inducing radio-moments for myself of the past 15 years.

I mean, you've got this huge fucking studio budget, there's a baby grand piano up in the mutha...and you're gonna use some fuckin' "sampled piano #001" crappy-sounds-like-a-Casio synth patch!?!

Michelle Branch, Avril Lavigne...today's Carole King they certainly are NOT.

Meanwhile, Tori Amos and Ani DiFranco are releasing albums right and left and touring like a politician in September, yet can't get played hardly ONCE a month on The Radio...unfuckingbelievable.

― nickalicious, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh the Humanity! Nobody has ever heard of Tori and Ani outside of our privilaged circles of musical 3L1T3. We must go forth and tell the world.

Think of all the angsty teenage girls languishing in their misery listening to crap pop music when they could double their angst in one easy switch.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:23 (twenty-three years ago)

(To teenage girls: easier angst-intensifying switch = go from track 3 ("Sk8ter Boi") skip skip skip to track 6 ("Unwanted"!)! Paradigm shift!)

― Honda (Honda), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I prefer Michelle Branch and Avril to Ani and Tori, easy. Less smug self-satisfaction, and the young girls aren't quite so cryptic or afraid of easy hooks. Though interestingly I prefer Fiona Apple to Vanessa Carlton (whose album title "Be Not Nobody" makes Fiona a definite inspiration).

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)

It is fairly unrelated, but I have to admit that I find that Norah Jones single to be quite pleasant.

I wish female jazz-pop would be the next trend.

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Thursday, 21 November 2002 06:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Fiona Apple

You have invoked demons and soon will be torn apart by emissaries from Beelzebub's basement. Just a friendly tip!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 November 2002 17:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Don't I have to say it three times at midnight in front of a mirror first? Or is that Sting?

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 22 November 2002 03:27 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...

"Norah Jones single to be quite pleasant"
I just heard it, and i agree. It's got mellow vocals and a laid back feel. light female jazz-pop would make a good trend.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 02:58 (twenty-three years ago)

light female jazz-pop would make a good trend

I see you'd rather ENCOURAGE our young people to smoke dope and fuck in the streets! Hell in a handbasket! That's where this country's headed! Terrorists on one hand, light female jazz-pop on the other! There's no end to it!

― Tom Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 03:19 (twenty-three years ago)

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